Mexico doesn't deserve soccer

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Brian Earl Spilner
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17 dead and many wounded after a game today. Shut down the whole ****ing thing. A bunch of animals. So ashamed of my country tonight.
PatAg
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Do yourself a favor, and don't watch any videos
Hand Of God
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Sickening stuff.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Unfortunately got them sent to me.
jay07ag
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Horrible…wonder if FIFA will allow them to host WC games in 26?
Aston94
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Terrible tragedy.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Good point. Probably not.
TXAggie2011
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Terrible stuff. But somewhat confused by the reporting. A lot of the larger outlets reporting a lot of injuries but not mentioning any deaths.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Yeah, it's hard to know the truth anymore. A lot of sources saying 17 dead, others saying 22 injuries and no deaths yet, so who knows. But the video I saw showed what looked like guys close to death and still being hit repeatedly in the head and even laughed at. It's repulsive.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Yeah, it's hard to know the truth anymore. A lot of sources saying 17 dead, others saying 22 injuries and no deaths yet, so who knows. But the video I saw showed what looked like guys close to death and still being hit repeatedly in the head and even laughed at. It's repulsive.
I know the security at the Azteca is always great, but it's crazy that the league doesnt require stronger security everywhere else.
I would love to see a game there, but I don't think I could ever justify it.
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Yeah, the reporting last night said 17 dead at one point. Some really gruesome videos and photos. This morning there's no mention of any deaths just serious injuries. Really awful situation and it would have been terrifying to have been trapped in there with your family while all that's going on.
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The pictures of the bodies lying on the concrete not being treated would suggest the "no deaths" reports are flat out lies.

It always makes me shake my head when I see a fan area that is ringed with chain link fence topped with rolled concertina wire.
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I think Queretaro is supposed to be a pretty nice, low crime area, so this is a surprising location for me. Not that I've ever been there.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Got a WhatsApp audio forwarded, recorded by someone in the stadium who was attacked. Says one of his friends was killed, and he was saved by being pulled into one of the box seat areas.

Also says every group of fans that traveled there with them has at least one death. So the 22 injuries number sounds like the "party line" being reported. I'm sure the real number will come soon, they can't hide deaths forever.

Also talked about how security was nowhere to be found. Really sounds like this was pre-planned and involved paying off security or something.
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jeffk
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Yeah, the videos I saw last night heavily contradict the reporting we're getting this morning. Just an insane situation.
Fall92
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Absolutely sickening.

https://www.outkick.com/mexico-city-soccer-match-halted-after-massive-brutal-fight/
EastSideAg2002
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Any possibility of cartel related? I dont know much about soccer in Mexico.
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Yeah no fans in the stands should be the bare minimum for them going forward
PatAg
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I also thought it was disgusting that they just kept tweeting out the scores of other league games on their main account, and just acted like it didn't happen.
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Complete and utter trash.
Bachelor99
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completely barbaric...unfortunately,.mexico has regressed as a society.
Gap
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Is there a US media blackout of this event? I still see ESPN, Bloomberg, Reuters, and AP only talking about injuries. Seems like this would be an enormous story.
Diego
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Makes you wonder if Barbara Olivieri might be having second thoughts about her decision
ColoradoMooseHerd
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Still surprised this is not making more noise
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FWIW The Guardian says 3 of the injured are in critical condition but no fatalities.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/mar/07/mexico-football-riot-liga-mx-queretaro-v-atlas-soccer
deadbq03
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Same article says they have to have a 1:14 ratio of security guards to fans at Azteca. That is f-ing unreal. That's more personnel than an entire Army division.
jeffk
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Saw that Herc was going to be devoting his next podcast episode towards covering the event.
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I'm finding this tragic event too ineffable for comment. A few words immediately come to mind:

heartbreaking, typical, macabre, unsurprisingly, unacceptable, figures, unscrupulous and abstruse.

Complete shock and loss of dialogue.

T&P to those lost and their families.
Mathguy64
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Liga MX and FMF came announced the club will ply behind closed doors for a year and the supporters groups got a 3 year ban. The also said their 2026 WC bid was in jeopardy if they had not done this.
jeffk
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Current owners have to sell the club back to the previous owners too. Which seems like an oddly specific sanction to me.
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jeffk said:

Current owners have to sell the club back to the previous owners too. Which seems like an oddly specific sanction to me.
They are not selling the team to the previous owners. They have to give immediate control over to previous owners and the previous owners are now in charge of the sale of the team.
jeffk
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I'll gladly admit that this is confusing to me.

"Liga MX also fined Queretaro $70,000 and ordered the current owners to sell the club back to the former owners, Grupo Caliente, who have until the December 31 2022 to find a new buyer for the club or Liga MX will take control of Queretaro."

https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2022/03/09/mexico-queretaro-vs-atlas-26-injured-sanctions-liga-mx/
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I still don't buy no one died.

Are they even investigating or making arrests? Or is that just something that doesn't happen in Mexico.
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