***** USMNT vs Saudi Arabia Official UnFriendly Thread *****

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If all we are gonna do at this point is hit long crosses into the box, then having Pefok on the squad is a must so someone can actually head them in.
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wangus12 said:

If all we are gonna do at this point is hit long crosses into the box, then having Pefok on the squad is a must so someone can actually head them in.
We're not even really doing that.
Is our best plan, as fans, to just ignore these games and hope we have it figured out come the World Cup?
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I think I'm gonna join Oregon in just accepting that we're not moving out of group. Not an outcome I want… I'd rather have ggg prove me wrong. But for my sanity, it's the outcome I'm preparing to see.
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deadbq03 said:

I think I'm gonna join Oregon in just accepting that we're not moving out of group. Not an outcome I want… I'd rather have ggg prove me wrong. But for my sanity, it's the outcome I'm preparing to see.
If these were the only data points, you;d have to agree.

My HOPE is that we find a way to play up closer to our potential, but without adjustments its not great.
Mostly because these are the games where a manager should be declaring and testing the way he intends to play in the world cup. Right?
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This is where I'm at too. Preparing for 0 points. Anything above that is a bonus. It's amazing how bad those two performances were. Absolutely nothing redeeming about them and it's unrealistic to expect a massive turnaround in less than 2 months with 0 games to play between now and then.
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Mathguy64 said:

This team, playing this way, is headed to 0-2-1 and coming home to a new manager.
If that's what it takes to get rid of Berhalter, I think I'd have to choke it down. With the talent the US is developing now, we need a manager who can play to their strengths.
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
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carl spacklers hat said:

Mathguy64 said:

This team, playing this way, is headed to 0-2-1 and coming home to a new manager.
If that's what it takes to get rid of Berhalter, I think I'd have to choke it down. With the talent the US is developing now, we need a manager who can play to their strengths.


If that's what happens then we just wasted 3 years. On top of wasting the year plus after Arena got axed.

You can't get back that time on the player clock.
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We lost when we didn't qualify last time....expected wholesale changes and we elected the Vice President to lead....
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Mathguy64 said:

carl spacklers hat said:

Mathguy64 said:

This team, playing this way, is headed to 0-2-1 and coming home to a new manager.
If that's what it takes to get rid of Berhalter, I think I'd have to choke it down. With the talent the US is developing now, we need a manager who can play to their strengths.


If that's what happens then we just wasted 3 years. On top of wasting the year plus after Arena got axed.

You can't get back that time on the player clock.


You can't fix the past. You can learn from it and move on.
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Mathguy64 said:

carl spacklers hat said:

Mathguy64 said:

This team, playing this way, is headed to 0-2-1 and coming home to a new manager.
If that's what it takes to get rid of Berhalter, I think I'd have to choke it down. With the talent the US is developing now, we need a manager who can play to their strengths.


If that's what happens then we just wasted 3 years. On top of wasting the year plus after Arena got axed.

You can't get back that time on the player clock.
News flash: US Soccer (the organization) is a shiite show. The incompetence really is incredible.
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
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Mathguy64 said:

carl spacklers hat said:

Mathguy64 said:

This team, playing this way, is headed to 0-2-1 and coming home to a new manager.
If that's what it takes to get rid of Berhalter, I think I'd have to choke it down. With the talent the US is developing now, we need a manager who can play to their strengths.


If that's what happens then we just wasted 3 years. On top of wasting the year plus after Arena got axed.

You can't get back that time on the player clock.


They're pro players. They know what tactics the sport uses. Implementing a new system isn't all that difficult. National Team managers rarely seem to last more than 1-2 cycles anyways. These last 2 matches are arguably the worst they've looked going into the time when they should be at their best. The team has no cohesion or chemistry because of how much ggg cycles the team. He's determined to play out of the back with players who've shown time and again that they can't do it well. He selects teams on favoritism rather than form.
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Furlock Bones
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Told you guys earlier in the game. The players just didn't execute the system. Gregg told us after the game.
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I mean, if I had to sum up Berhalter's incompetence in one tweet, there it is.
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
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Quote:

lacking in confidence against Saudi Arabia due to looming roster decisions.
Didnt everyone who played today basically have a spot? Who were edge cases - Scally, Tillman, maybe Yedlin?
There are 26 roster spots and 5 subs per game. More players and subs than any previous WC. There are plenty of positions and playing time available.
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Until there is a true, full investment in the World Cup, the USA will always under-perform.
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Right. Which makes GGGG's statement all the more ludicrous.
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
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The best NTs play the same system year after year from U17 on up. Everyone is drilled in the system. And the NT manager plays the best players as much as possible so they get familiar with each other.

The second part isnt possible when ggg rotates his squad over and over because he wants to. Its one thing when you have injuries. But that should be plug and play the injured spot. He cant settle on a squad of 11. Its infuriating.

Play your best 11 every match. The best 11 in the same place, subject to injuries.
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Biggest cheer of the game was Berholters behind the back bounce pass.
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Mathguy64 said:

The best NTs play the same system year after year from U17 on up. Everyone is drilled in the system. And the NT manager plays the best players as much as possible so they get familiar with each other.

The second part isnt possible when ggg rotates his squad over and over because he wants to. Its one thing when you have injuries. But that should be plug and play the injured spot. He cant settle on a squad of 11. Its infuriating.

Play your best 11 every match. The best 11 in the same place, subject to injuries.
Even given the injury issues, he does often just play different players for no apparent reason
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Just finished watching. Boy, another stinker. My dvr didn't record, so I missed the first half. Anybody know why Pulisic didn't play? I saw him listed on the starting 11, but didn't see him out there.

Scally showed some skill. He looks a little green, but might be a player in the future.

I saw Pepi get subbed off, but didn't see him touch the ball.

The super slow play out of the back is infuriating. Seeing big Zimm just stand there with the ball at his feet is bad football. Seeing Aaron Schlong do the same is worse.

Give me Musah and Weah. These current guys suck.

Gonna make a prediction that I don't like. Turners lack of skill with his feet will cost us a goal in the cup. I like Turner and support him being number 1, but GGG is asking him to do something he is not comfortable with. Big Zimm and Schlong rely on him too much and it will bite us. Midfield needs to get the centerbacks better options for an outlet.
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CP played for 75'.
wangus12
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I think he thinks he's making a joke.
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Coulda fooled me. If he was out there, he certainly wasn't notable in the second half.
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wangus12 said:

I think he thinks he's making a joke.


It's honestly tough to tell on here these days.
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Actually had to go into the office today so wasn't able to watch and managed to miss all reports during the day. Just sat down to watch and for some reason YouTubeTV didn't record the match despite me having it set to record any USMNT matches, so I searched the match on AppleTV and it pulled up the result.

Replay starts on FS1 in about an hour, I'll probably watch a bit but doesn't sound like i missed much...
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First 15' or so was interesting. We looked slightly less toothless then.
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I'll at least watch that far then

But not being able to score against the...*scrolls...scrolls...scrolls*...53rd ranked team in the world 7 weeks out from the World Cup doesn't seem promising.
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Same issue with my recording. I think they coded it differently and the dvr didn't pick up on whatever they called it. Just a guess. Mine has had no problems finding the games on fs1 or espn. Other oddity is that mine records the us games on the spanish stations too. This time, nada. I also avoided any news or media that would possibly spill the beans.
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Yeah, I can't recall ever having had issues in the past either. What's weird is if I go to my Library it's not recorded under Recent, but the match comes up with the score and "unavailable" under Completed.
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One day technology will advance to the point that we can watch recorded matches AND not find out the score beforehand, one day....
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Was the broadcast this afternoon better quality or also filmed with a potato?
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Milwaukees Best Light said:

Same issue with my recording. I think they coded it differently and the dvr didn't pick up on whatever they called it. Just a guess. Mine has had no problems finding the games on fs1 or espn. Other oddity is that mine records the us games on the spanish stations too. This time, nada. I also avoided any news or media that would possibly spill the beans.
Mine was not set to record on YoutubeTV, even though I have USMNT always set.
Luckily I caught it ahead of time
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fig96 said:

Was the broadcast this afternoon better quality or also filmed with a potato?
May have been my tv, but the wide view the players looked blurry and I couldn't tell who was who sometimtes.
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It wasn't, we just moved and I've got a brand new 65" 4k set for the living room and had the same issue.
 
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