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This coming from someone that's had to resort to name calling. Please tell me, what substance would you like me to add? Or did you miss where I asked that already...seems you glossed over to get right into 5th grade name calling.

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I'd like you add something that's actually true. All you've "added" is hyperbole and anti-Dallas talking points.

I haven't called you any names. I've said that the content of your posts have been 1. stupid, and 2. ignorant. Both of which are completely true.

All of the adjectives you've used to universally (also ignorantly) describe ALL Mavericks fans (butthurt, envious) could easily be used to describe your posts. It's kinda funny.

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You're a waste of time...ask me a direct question and I'll provide you substance just as I have been. you just don't like the answers I give because it's not Dallas love. I'm sorry you feel that way, so why don't you go to one of the 2011 Dallas NBA championship threads and let us have a discussion. thank you so much.

First of all let me make my predictions...

Mavs over Thunder in 6
Heat over Bulls in 6 (GO BULLS)

Heat over Mavs in 6

With that said if Dallas does lose to OKC in the WCF I'll be buying up Thunder gear in hopes that they beat the Heat. IMO, every true fan of basketball should be rooting against the Heat the rest of the way because Miami's "Super Team" is what's wrong with basketball. If the Spurs or Rockets were playing them in the finals I'd be backing those teams 100 percent.

Secondly, if you watched the 2006 Finals you know that that series wasnt fairly officiated. Dwyane Wade had 96 free throws in 6 games, 64 free throws in their 3 close wins, the Heat had a +23 foul advantage in those 3 wins, and let's not forget the phantom foul called in Game 5 in Miami's favor (See Below). Dallas was clearly the better team in that series but the officiating didnt allow for the right outcome.

BTW, I am pretty sure every Mavs fan will admit that Golden State just kicked our ass. Even if the refs would have given us every call possible we still lose in 6.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTKxxsDuDas&feature=related

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you just don't like the answers I give because it's not Dallas love.

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This is exactly what I'm talking about. I don't like the answers you give because they're propaganda-ish talking points and overall extremely ignorant. If you had a legitimate argument for why you think Dallas isn't any good, that actually had to do with basketball, I could respond in a meaningful way. Instead, this is what you've "contributed" to the thread:

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I guess now you maverick fans have your built in excuse when you collapse.

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You must be a Mavericks fan. Guess that's why ya'll lost the 2006 Finals too right? And the 1st round playoffs to the Warriors? You still believe in the toothfairy don't you. Dang those refs hate Dallas.

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Shhh, any anti-Dallas opinion will be met w/ significant scrutiny in 3...2...1...

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All you mavs fans have that us against the world, the NBA hate us mentality.

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It's always some conspiracy theory that keeps you down. Give me a break

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All Mavericks have proven is 2 things 1) when you're losing you have San Antonio envy or 2) when you're good you're gonna win the NBA championship over everyone (nevermind that you've never done it...EVER.)

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because I don't agree the Mavs are the end all be all in basketball I'm stupid. coming from a butthurt mavs fan looking for validity in the NBA that train's never late lol

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Really? this coming from a fan base that reserve the blame for all major lose on the fact the NBA doesn't want Mark Cuban to win. If that's the kind of substance you're looking for then your'e right, I have none.

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You've made maybe 3 legitimate comments about basketball, and then the rest is akin to the verbal diarrhea you see above. Try talking about basketball if you don't want to be called a troll.

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Dallas was clearly the better team in that series but the officiating didnt allow for the right outcome.

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Really? So the refs took 4 games from ya'll? COme on now. Could it be that D-Wade was actually going to the hole? Could it be that Dallas, as was always said, had soft defense and couldnt defend w/out fouling? No it couldn't be could it? The refs were out to get ya'll.

And no, Dallas wasn't clearly better. What positions were they better? C? Shaq vs Dampier? Nope. PG? Gary Peyton versus Devin Harris? Nope. SG? Wade vs who cares? Nope. So that's 3 of the 5 starting positions right there. then you have Haslme vs Dirk....one for the "good guys". Then SF...James posey vs josh howard. I'll let you make the call but I'm sure you'll some how find a way to assert Howard into legendary playoff status that the refs just wouldn't let play. So tell me again how Dallas was the better team?

What's funny is all of those quotes are based on Maverick fan quotes, but you can ignore that part right? I respond to what's posted, and you mav fans only post garbage. Garbage in garbage out sir. Like I said, ask me a direct question and I'll respond. But you haven't since I don't agree Dallas will win the Finals. Now like I asked, please go away.

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All Mavericks have proven is 2 things 1) when you're losing you have San Antonio envy or 2) when you're good you're gonna win the NBA championship over everyone (nevermind that you've never done it...EVER.)

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In response to nothing.

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Shhh, any anti-Dallas opinion will be met w/ significant scrutiny in 3...2...1...

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Not responding to a Mavericks fan.

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I respond to what's posted, and you mav fans only post garbage.

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More blanket generalization.

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But you haven't since I don't agree Dallas will win the Finals.

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Another incorrect assumption, based on nothing.


Any other lies you'd like me to debunk? There's a direct question for you.

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The Mavs had the matchups to challenge the Lakers all along because they had size inside to match the Lakers

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I still don't think the Mavs matchup well against the Lakers, but they won because they are playing great, have more heart than the Lakers and the Lakers obvious turmoil.

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prepyag seems to be one of these anti-Dallas trolls

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I don't think his posts have been exclusively anti-dallas. Since they are the only team left in it, they have been, but I am pretty sure I remember anti-Houston and SA posts in the past.


I think OKC will beat Dallas, then Miami will beat Chicago and OKC. Bleh.

You have to be effing kidding me. The 2006 Gary Payton (5 PPG and 1.5 APG) was not the 1996 GP so yea I'll take Devin and his 10 and 3. I will also take J-Ho over Posey because back then he was close to Posey as a defensive threat and much better as an offensive threat (16 ppg/7 rpg to 7 ppg/7 rpg). Also the Mavs with Diop/Damp largely neutralized Shaq and I dont think he had on great game in the series. Oh and please dont put Dirk/Haslem in the same sentence... this shows me you need to watch a little more basketball.

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And no, Dallas wasn't clearly better. What positions were they better? C? Shaq vs Dampier? Nope. PG? Gary Peyton versus Devin Harris? Nope. SG? Wade vs who cares? Nope. So that's 3 of the 5 starting positions right there. then you have Haslme vs Dirk....one for the "good guys". Then SF...James posey vs josh howard. I'll let you make the call but I'm sure you'll some how find a way to assert Howard into legendary playoff status that the refs just wouldn't let play. So tell me again how Dallas was the better team?

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That's idiotic. Dallas was a much better team.

Dirk and Wade were pretty close to even. You could make arguments for one or another. Dirk averaged 27 and 12 in the playoffs that year and before he fell off in the Finals was on track to have one of the best playoffs ever.

Shaq was getting 20 and 9 that year. He was the third best player on the two teams. But after Shaq - Dallas dominates with their depth.

Jason Terry
Josh Howard
Jerry Stackhouse (still a good scorer at 13ppg)
Marquis Daniels
Devin Harris (I'd take him over White Chocolate any day)

Those are all better than the Heat's third best player.

Dampier and Haslem are about even.
Antoine Walker is more liability than anything, as any Mavs fan will tell you.
Alonzo Mourning and Gary Payton were coattail riders with no real contributions.
Zo = Diop. Maybe a little worse than Diop, since Diop was still athletic.

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That's idiotic. Dallas was a much better team.

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I agree.

Can't change what happened 5 years ago. Personally I think the officiating was horrible in that series. Sure, Wade attacked off the dribble like a man possessed, but too many of those calls were phantom fouls. There's plenty of video evidence out there if you care to look. Dirk could have tied game 3 at the line, and he missed a free throw. The officiating wasn't the only reason we lost - it certainly helped swing the momentum of the series.

I hate NBA officiating in general though, not even considering 2006. I don't like that certain refs have vendettas against certain teams and players, and they have too much influence on the game.

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You forgot Posey who may not have looked good stats wise but was clearly the X factor in the series hitting big clutch 3s and playing great defense on Dirk in spurts. He was one of those tough glue guys that every team loves to have and can outplay talented low bball IQ guys like Howard with his intangibles. He did the same thing for Boston 2008 and has been a complete spare every other season of his career.

But yeah Dallas was better. Miami earned it. Refs were working against Dallas but they should have overcome that. You can't get caught up in blaming the refs if you're a die hard fan or player. That's a losers mentality. It's haunting. You couldn't pay me to watch games 3-6 ever again.

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So, what was the excuses for games 1 & 2? The refs weren't against ya'll then? They just decided to be in game 3? Come on man, let it go.

I think the officiating was consistent at least in games 1 and 2. 2006 sucked, but I've already let it go. Let go of posting stupid, uninformed comments.

When you defend the NBA officials in the 2006 Championship, you've lost the argument. And you've proved yourself to be a moron.

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BTW, I am pretty sure every Mavs fan will admit that Golden State just kicked our ass. Even if the refs would have given us every call possible we still lose in 6.

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Baron the Bearded Bowling Ball was unstoppable off the dribble.

By the way, I am not convinced that Miami can get by Chicago.

Prepy, let it go dude.

You so desperately want to label all Mavs fans as excuse makers, when most of them on this thread have been pretty rational. Save it for the Muy's of the world.

I have let it go. Read what i said. It's actually the national media that will advance the story if the Mavs and Heat play. Even Mike Lupica was talking about the refs altering that series this week. It's part of NBA history now. It's not just bitter Mavs fans not letting go.

prepyag is getting his **** pushed in on this thread. keep up the good work

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Prepy, let it go dude.

You so desperately want to label all Mavs fans as excuse makers, when most of them on this thread have been pretty rational. Save it for the Muy's of the world.

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Really?

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When you defend the NBA officials in the 2006 Championship, you've lost the argument. And you've proved yourself to be a moron.

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Personally I think the officiating was horrible in that series. Sure, Wade attacked off the dribble like a man possessed, but too many of those calls were phantom fouls.

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Secondly, if you watched the 2006 Finals you know that that series wasnt fairly officiated.

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The NBA wants the Heat to win and Mark Cuban to lose.

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So this is what you consider not making excuses and rational? um, ok then lol

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prepyag is getting his **** pushed in on this thread. keep up the good work

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Actually I'm not...pleae show me where that's happened...don't worry, i'll wait.

In all seriousness I apologize for talking about your german god fellas. I didn't realize that he was the 2nd coming, or that the mavs had been awarded the NBA championship. If you really think they're gonn continue to make 20 3's in each game, shoot better than 50% from the field, and hold opponents to 84 pts the rest of the way that's your decision. I can have my opinion, but just because it conflicts w/ your blind mavs love doesn't make it stupid, moronic, or whatever other immature comment you choose to make.

I'm sorry, but all that does it make you look desperate

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I didn't realize that he was the 2nd coming, or that the mavs had been awarded the NBA championship.

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Stupid comment.

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If you really think they're gonn continue to make 20 3's in each game, shoot better than 50% from the field, and hold opponents to 84 pts the rest of the way that's your decision.

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Nobody has said that. Arguing against a point your opponent didn't make is definitely insightful and unbiased.

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I can have my opinion, but just because it conflicts w/ your blind mavs love doesn't make it stupid, moronic, or whatever other immature comment you choose to make.

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It has nothing to do with "blind Mav love". Your opinion is stupid and moronic because you make stupid and moronic comments. More than just Mavs fans are telling you to shut it down at this point. You should probably listen before this meltdown of yours reaches critical mass.

Prepy, you haven't really contributed anything to the thread other than that you think Mavs fans are idiots. I see WAY more Mavs hatred from you than excuse making from Mavs fans.

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OKC over Memphis in 7

Bulls over heat in 6

Mavs over OKC in 5

Mavs over Bulls in 6

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i always have spurs envy. if the mavs somehow win a championship this year i'll still have spurs envy. if in that scenario the mavs win it all, all spurs fans have to do is show the 4 trophies and it'll make my blood boil. i need to start charging rent for how much room in my head they take up.

"howd ya do" ttt