"Dirk has played good enough this series to say that he doesn't have to take a backseat to anyone who has played PF except for Tim Duncan"

Sorry Mavs fan/Dirk garglers

Tim Duncan is the best PF of all time. I take that quote as a compliment to Dirk.

You sound like an idiot trying to make that a dig against Mavs/Dirk fans.

I would be surprised if most Mavs fans don't readily admit that Tim Duncan was better than Dirk, and probably the greatest PF of all time.

that quote looks like a compliment to dirk and a dig at lebron.


way to misunderstand it though.

Well good for you. You are a rare breed then. Check around. There are plenty of people who would argue against this quote in favor of Dirk.

This was meant for those delusional fans. Clearly, not you. Thanks for trying.

I don't think I've heard anybody say Dirk is the best ever. Honestly, unless he can pull his team through for a couple of championships, he isn't even in the same category as TD.

That being said, Duncan and Dirk both are what NBA teams should promote. Both display maturity and sportsmanship that is hard to find in most NBA teams. No showboating, just play the game the way it should be played and let your skill and hard work do the talking. It's been a lot of fun watching both the past decade. I'm just sad that their era is nearly over.

Thread fail. Mavs fans readily admit Duncan has an edge over Dirk. Although they are completely different style of players, making it harder to compare.

CLB why do you even try posting such a weak troll attempt? No one with an ounce of Basketball IQ (even *gasp* MAVS FANS) would argue that Dirk is a better PF than Duncan. Like previously mentioned, most would consider it a huge compliment to be mentioned in the same sentence as TD.

I am sorry your precious Spurs are not playing right now, but STFU and please spare us your weak Mavs-smack while we enjoy these finals. Just as those that recognize Duncan as one of the greatest PF's of all time, you should have the common sense to realize and respect what Dirk has done for his legacy this post-season.

Yeah, the quote is obviously paying a compliment to Dirk, not insulting him. Dirk and Duncan are both PFs, but play completely different games. I don't recall anyone saying Dirk powns Duncan.

CLB2008, can you provide one single post in the history of the BB other board where a Mavs fan has said Dirk is better than Duncan. and is not being facetious.

seriously.

i bet there is none. i wouldn't even say that to piss off puddy, soupy, DC, obi, etc.

Its really a comparison to guys like Barkley Malone Webber and Elgin who don't have titles in their prime. If Dirk comes out this year as the consensus 2nd greatest PF then that's huge

Even "best" arguments are difficult because almost nothing is apples to apples. Duncan is a low post scorer with a nice midrange jumper, great rebounder, great defender. Dirk is an incredible shooter who has over time developed somewhat of an inside game, but he is a 7 footer who can play like a shooting guard, who could rebound but has never really been great, and someone who has developed into a solid team defender. They are so vastly different that you can't compare them. That said, many believe Duncan is a certain top 10 player of all time whereas Dirk's coach says that he is and the media basically mocks him, and even a lot of Mavs fans furrow their brows.

I understand there is a rivalry between Mavs/Spurs/Rockets, but it shouldn't be based on hate, but respect. I know there are fans here that make others here hate the team, but I assure you one does not represent the entire population. I don't like being bunched in with some of the Mavs fans on here, just like I don't want to read smarmy crap about the team I've loved my whole life. I certainly have no problem with Spurs fans rooting against the Mavs, but to just try and stir the pot in the middle of one of the greatest series so far I've ever watched just doesn't make a lot of sense.

I could argue that Dirk has been better the past 6 seasons which is about 1/2 his career but he'll never reach pre 2006 Duncan accomplishments

people have short memories. the fact that there's even a debate over lebron/jordan proves that.

in time, this will probably happen to duncan too. but not yet. and certainly not on these boards.

there were several years when duncan was unstoppable. quick to get to the rack, strong finisher, excellent shot blocker, and adding the 15ft bank shot was just nasty.

One season does not make a player. Dirk is great, but he isn't in the same league as Duncan and wont ever be unless the Mavs win 2 or 3 championships in a row.

dirk is a better scorer in terms of longevity... but duncan is far superior in every other facet of the game. duncan anchored all those great defenses who even in victory couldnt slow dirk.

Are we basing who is better on stats or popularity???

What is the criteria?





Laura

There is an idiot that works in San Antonio radio named Walter Pasacrita that was arguing around a month ago that Ginobli was better than Dirk. Most of the Spurs fans that called in disagreed with him but his point was so stupid that I wanted him fired on the spot.

I think offensively, he's as good as anyone in the NBA.

Not defending Dirk, but Duncan is really a center playing PF.

James is a SF, not a PF.

Duncan isn't better than Jordan.

Sorry Spurs fans.







Oh wait- no one was making that argument? Well, I guess it was pretty pointless to bring it up then.

Rebounding: Duncan is better than MJ or Dirk.

Blocks : Duncan is better than MJ or Dirk.

I dare any of you Bulls or Mavs fans to say otherwise.



Laura

Dear God, can we stop with these stupid comparisons? We know Dirk isn't Jordan. We know Dirk isn't Bird. We know Dirk isn't Duncan.

Who gives a ****? He's still the best player in franchise history trying to win his first championship for a championship-less franchise. He's a beast on a fantastic playoff run where he's doing all the things that everybody in the world said he couldn't do and proving all the haters wrong.

Enough with this stupid garbage.

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Dear God, can we stop with these stupid comparisons? We know Dirk isn't Jordan. We know Dirk isn't Bird. We know Dirk isn't Duncan.

Who gives a ****? He's still the best player in franchise history trying to win his first championship for a championship-less franchise. He's a beast on a fantastic playoff run where he's doing all the things that everybody in the world said he couldn't do and proving all the haters wrong.

Enough with this stupid garbage.

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+1

"SportsCenter" said it, end of arguement

Dirk's a better offensive player.

Duncan's a better defensive player.

But Duncan isn't a bad offensive player either.

So Duncan > Dirk.

Their games are different but their personalities are the same.

I wonder what we will say after both have finished thier careers?

It will be interesting to see who has more points, who has more rebounds, both regular season and playoffs when all is said and done for them. Championships will be in TDs favor, but I have always felt like it is tough to fault the individual when BBall is a team sport. Until now, TD has allways had the better supporting cast.

There could be a thread started comparing Mike Conley and Kyle Lowry and someone would have to bring in Jordan.

It could even be Shawn Bradley vs. Manute Bol vs. Gheorghe Mureºan, and we would get a Jordan reference.

BAU around these parts.

OPfail

im the biggest dirk homer, and even i will admit that duncan is the greatest pf of all time. 4 chips, defense, will, quiet superstar.

rings seperate dirk and duncan. duncan can do things defensively that dirk will never ever do.

dirk can do things offensively that duncan could never ever do.

duncan has LEAD his team to 4 rings. duncan > dirk.
even dirk will tell youthat.

not sure i've ever read or heard any mavs fans say that Dirk is better than Tim Duncan. They are completely different style of players, with the only thing you need to look at being Timmy's rings and the fact that he led his team to every one of those.

Duncan is better than Dirk, but I'd take Dirk over KG, Malone, Barkley, etc. I agree with the original quote.

Unsuccessful troll.

Mavs fan here. Duncan is the greatest 4 of all time.

CLB might have just earned the title "Worst Poster in TexAgs History"