Has a team ever had a tougher road to the NBA Championship?
Tough playoff run.
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Last: 14 yr ago by TheMasterplan
I know you're riding high right now, but c'mon...
And to answer your question, '95 Rockets.
And to answer your question, '95 Rockets.
i would say 95 Rockets up until the Finals, but the Mavs had the tougher final out.
To beat Kobe/Gasol, Durant/Westbrook, and Wade/LeBron...
Pretty amazing stuff. Defied conventional wisdom of needing 2 stars to win.
Pretty amazing stuff. Defied conventional wisdom of needing 2 stars to win.
It's up there with the 95 Rockets.
Rockets didn't have to face the best player in the world. Mavs went through 6 of the top 9 players. Best 2 players in the world on the same team. Beat the back to back defending champs looking to 3peat for their retiring legend coach. Beat the lower seed in the 1st round with all the momentum that nobody wanted to face.
Rockets didn't have to face the best player in the world. Mavs went through 6 of the top 9 players. Best 2 players in the world on the same team. Beat the back to back defending champs looking to 3peat for their retiring legend coach. Beat the lower seed in the 1st round with all the momentum that nobody wanted to face.
Get a life McQueen, you beat the bulls without Jordan. Mavs just beat a team that will win like 5 in a row, the future powerhouse of the Western Conference, and the 2 time defending NBA champs! MAVS ARE CHAMPS!!!!!!!!!
This is Dallas' night, so I don't want to rain on your parade, but the other poster had it right about the '95 Rockets.
Dallas beat the following seeds (in order): 6/2/4/2
'95 Houston beat the following (in order): 3/2/1/1
Case closed.... but obviously a great run by the mavs this year.
[This message has been edited by Texas A&M (edited 6/12/2011 11:20p).]
Dallas beat the following seeds (in order): 6/2/4/2
'95 Houston beat the following (in order): 3/2/1/1
Case closed.... but obviously a great run by the mavs this year.
[This message has been edited by Texas A&M (edited 6/12/2011 11:20p).]
I'm not Mavs Fan, I am a Rocket fan. And that was because the Rockets were the 6th seed so they played higher seeds. And in retrospect Orlando was not that good and Utah and Phoenix where perennial under achievers.
[This message has been edited by Agnzona (edited 6/12/2011 11:23p).]
[This message has been edited by Agnzona (edited 6/12/2011 11:23p).]
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Best 2 players in the world on the same team.
debatable
They played a 4 seed in the Conference Finals!
I don't think the OP was just talking about the Championship.
I don't think the OP was just talking about the Championship.
Hey...my Thunder weren't some generic 4 seed!
Vest, your post has so much fail, I don't even know where to start.
Whatever McQueer. You watch, Thunder and Heat for the next 3/5 years at least. Stop raining on the parade. MAVS ARE CHAMPIONS!
I don't think you can do it strictly by seeds, especially with the "case closed" label. The Mavs swept the defending champs and beat a recent champ in 6. It is just the perspective you want to use to look at it. You have to put Portland in '77 up there as well.
To me, all NBA champs had a tough road. The great Bulls team and the couple of really good Lakers and Celtics teams just made it look easy.
To me, all NBA champs had a tough road. The great Bulls team and the couple of really good Lakers and Celtics teams just made it look easy.
Seeds are the only real item you can compare across different generations of teams. It doesn't make one run necessarily more impressive (because it ignores how series are won), but it does help us identify who had the toughest route 'in theory'.
In the Western Conference, this was a year where the seeds didn't mean ****. All 8 teams were good.
And Judge hits the nail on the head! BAM!!
Maybe the '94 rockets but not the '95 rockets.
Dirk didn't have a second option like Hakeem did. Clyde Drexler >> Terry
Dirk didn't have a second option like Hakeem did. Clyde Drexler >> Terry
I suppose guys like Stockton, Malone, Barkley, Robinson (MVP), and Shaq are chopped liver.
Dallas didn't even face the MVP!!!
Vest, nobody's taking away from what your Mavs did tonight. The OP asked a question - sorry the honest answers don't jive with your view of the world, asshat.
Dallas didn't even face the MVP!!!
Vest, nobody's taking away from what your Mavs did tonight. The OP asked a question - sorry the honest answers don't jive with your view of the world, asshat.
I started another thread with it, but perhaps it needs repeating here:
Act like you've been here before...
...oh wait.
Act like you've been here before...
...oh wait.
Whatever assqueer, the Mavs faced a 2-time MVP and a Finals MVP. Houston Rocket fans must be butthurt cause of how irrelevant they have been since the Mavs came back from 3-1 down to win the series.
I see what you're doing there, trying to turn my name into a homo joke... That's funny.
You should ask your mother if I'm gay.
You should ask your mother if I'm gay.
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Get a life McQueen, you beat the bulls without Jordan.
troll?
One last bit before I call it a night... Dallas fans talking at all about any team being irrelevant is laughable, considering the pit of mediocrity they're about to stumble into.
If it wasn't this year for you guys, it really would be never. Dirk's gone soon, and he won't go off next year like he has this year (patiently awaiting the EPO scandal) and Kidd is out too.
You'll be starting JJ at the 1 next year.
If it wasn't this year for you guys, it really would be never. Dirk's gone soon, and he won't go off next year like he has this year (patiently awaiting the EPO scandal) and Kidd is out too.
You'll be starting JJ at the 1 next year.
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In the Western Conference, this was a year where the seeds didn't mean ****. All 8 teams were good.
And I think pretty much everyone thought that if the Heat were in the Finals that meant they had it figured out and were rolling.
Early on, there might have been some issues about them meshing. But by the end of the year, with them beating Boston and Chicago that was over. That was a team with 3 stars, two of whom are at least in the top 7-10 of NBA players if not top 5.
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Dallas didn't even face the MVP!!!
Honest question and give me an honest answer. Everyone will know if you're lying.
If you were allowed to run an NBA team for a season tomorrow and could sign one of the three following players, who would you pick?
Dwayne Wade, LeBron James, or Derek Rose?
[This message has been edited by TXAggie2011 (edited 6/13/2011 1:11a).]
* Derrick
that Rockets team would not have won it this year
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Best 2 players in the world on the same team
Funny that this is true when it helps you make an argument, but not true any other time.
are you really still going to try this hard to sound knowledgeable clay?
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Dirk's gone soon, and he won't go off next year like he has this year (patiently awaiting the EPO scandal)
I am going to bite.... what?
I think Dirk's game will age about as well as anyone's. He could end up being one of the top 5 scores in NBA history.
As far as EPO.... don't know how much that would help his game, it's not like he plays tenacious defense...
Lebron and Wade are the best 2 players in the world. That's pretty much universally acknowledged. It sure as hell was acknowledged with 7 minutes to go in game 2. They didn't play like it in the last 4.25 games of the Finals though.
quote:They beat the guy who personally shut down and humiliated the MVP like Jordan on Malone or Hakeem on Robinson. Rose wasn't the real MVP like Robinson wasn't the real MVP (**Guitarsoup beacon activated**)
Dallas didn't even face the MVP!!!
quote:Impossible to say with any certainty.
that Rockets team would not have won it this year
The Rockets beat how many hall of fMers
Guys - You're making this too hard.
Average seed of teams beaten in Mavericks run = 3.5
Average seed of teams beaten in Rockets run = 1.75
Like golf, lower is better. In this case, 1.75 is a whole lot lower than 3.5.
Case closed.
Average seed of teams beaten in Mavericks run = 3.5
Average seed of teams beaten in Rockets run = 1.75
Like golf, lower is better. In this case, 1.75 is a whole lot lower than 3.5.
Case closed.
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