Another flopping thread

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Simplebay
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Came here to post this. Sometimes i hate the nba

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvXFCu0gUDI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[This message has been edited by simplebay (edited 2/4/2012 10:09a).]
PatAg
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Thats awful, and Im personally a firm believer in sending in a bench player to really foul the **** out of the flopper.

We used to do that in soccer all the time if someone flopped.
agwin12
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Since it was against the Lakers, it was a GREAT call.
Gigem Trevas
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I don't care who it was against even a team I hate. I do not like seeing teams win like this in professional sports.
Houston Summit
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I agree that Fernandez flopped. But unfortunately when you swing your elbows like that the Refs will call a foul, regardless if you make contact or not. I'm not saying I like that rule, because I don't at all. That's just the way it is, and as long as that rule is in place, people will take advantage of it and flop to get calls
Iowaggie
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Check out this "Flop so Hard" video.

Definitely mentions the usual suspects, including CP3 doing The Heliflopter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eOmJF7CmZ4
R0GUE
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It was Matt Barnes so he deserved it.
Tomdoss92
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personal favorite
CFTXAG10
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Another gem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=e4pjJHiqCFE
Phat32
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Best thread ever. I particularly like the ones that begin with the head jerking back. You can almost see the ridiculous idea to flop flowing through their bodies.
TheDino
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That video is hilarious. One of the best ones yet. I can't stop watching it.

Fantastic flop.
Simplebay
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Iowaggie
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Re-watched the "Flop So Hard" video again and because they reference the Carmello Anthony unconscious moment (Lay flat out like Mello), and watched that again.

I love the Kenny and Chuck commentary on the play, including Kenny's comment about JR Smith always looking at the rim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GidLEPzlRwE
Simplebay
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Tomdoss92....i actually think the guy flopping was making fun of the original guy who fell.
Simplebay
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because the image from earlier is gone






[This message has been edited by Simplebay (edited 3/23/2012 4:03p).]
Iowaggie
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Jamaal Tinsley pulls a flop on the master of flopping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyssIZstnvA
Iowaggie
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quote:
Is CP3 the worst


His nickname has been changed to CP360 now.


A good CP360 video against the Spurs from a few years ago.

It just goes to show, that if you flop enough times, you will get a call to go your way, and there aren't any consequences.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znAA4mLU0II
Simplebay
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wheeeeeeeeeeeee


















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Aggie Bus Operator
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http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1106098/paulf.gif

Aggie_2463
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These are hilarious. I wasn't aware Chris Paul was the king of flops
atfarmer
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I really really hate Chris Paul. He's worse than a Ginobili-Divac hybrid. Has anybody ever flopped from ref contact? I think Paul is breaking new ground

[This message has been edited by atfarmer (edited 5/16/2012 7:09p).]
OlRock
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I can't stand when he is taking the ball up the court, turns around to find a trailing defender only to dribble backwards or sideways into said defender and flop like a little betch. If he focused more on executing and quit trying to sell flops, he could probably elevate his game even higher. That said, I can't stand him. I was really hoping Memphis would win so I wouldn't have to watch his punk ass anymore.
American Hardwood
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Manu flops of course, but for every flop he makes he takes at least ten hard shots. I figure he's earned a few flops here and there.
Iowaggie
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New competition committee this year will likely look at flopping. It's a new committee this year (previously it had been GMs).

The new committee:
Cleveland owner Dan Gilbert, Golden State owner Joe Lacob, general managers Bryan Colangelo (Toronto), Mitch Kupchak (L.A. Lakers), Kevin O’Connor (Utah) and Sam Presti (Oklahoma City), and coaches Rick Carlisle (Dallas), Lionel Hollins (Memphis) and Doc Rivers (Boston). Also a player TBA.
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The unnamed player will be Chris Paul and nothing will happen about floppers.
Ulrich
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Manu doesn't flop much if at all anymore. He doesn't do as many crazy off-balance moves either, so I think he's trying to keep from hurting himself by landing on the court 10 times a game.
Phat32
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I'm a Dallas fan and Manu never flopped like that. He'd take dives while actively guarding a defender and he's very dramatic, but Paul is a ****ing ******bag.
Ulrich
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I agree with that, Manu sold contact dramatically and drew a lot of contact, but he has always played for the shot first and didn't go down untouched like some of these guys.
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I don't consider that Lebron one a "flop" per se. His head jerked back so hard that it seems plausible that he lost his equilibrium a little bit.

No he acted like a big baby after it, but I could see a guy losing his footing after a hard (and unwarned, I might add) back screen like that.
Iowaggie
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I think flop needs to be defined...what is it exactly?

Is attempting to draw the charge and falling when there is contact flopping? I don't think a call always has to be made, but I don't consider that a flop.
Right now offensive players barrel down a lane and attempt to draw contact to get the foul call. Right now if the defender doesn't fall (or does a hulk hogan no sell) he gets the foul.
aggie_2001_2005
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Falling for the charge CANNOT alone be considered flopping. It is done for physical protection, to reduce the force of impact. If you try to stand your ground, you won't be playing basketball very long (that night or through the course of your life).

Falling is a necessary part of the game on DEFENSE. It's on offense where it is usually greatly exaggerated and needs to be stopped. The only reason you should fall on offense is when you are finishing a layup and can't safely negotiate the landing otherwise, or someone just knocked the effing crap out of you while you were in the air.
GetThoseKeysMilo
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What Chalmers did in the 2nd quarter of tonight's game was pretty bad. Drove the lane and "tripped", flung the ball at the rim and fell down. Got three points out of it, but zero contact.
Houston Summit
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Bump in honor of Euro 2012 and the Miami Heat
Ulrich
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There needs to be more no-calls on charge/blocking. If both players are racing to a spot for the opportunity to fall down first and there is no hard contact, just don't call anything... or call both, that wouldn't be practical but it would be funny. In any case, you can't keep rewarding offensive players for charging into the lane out of control looking for contact, or rewarding defenders who slide under a driver and collapse like their bones melted without even trying to actually defend. So much of the play in the paint now has nothing to do with trying to score or prevent scores, it's all attempts to exploit officials.

They need to enforce the defensive player's possession of his vertical space better. Pump faking and jumping into the exposed defender should be an offensive foul.

Moving screens need to be called better. The pick and pretend to roll but really stick your butt way out to bump the defender (otherwise known as the Perkins special) has to stop. It makes defending the pick and roll impossible even with bad picks.

Any time a player goes down without significant contact or cause outside of the paint, it should be a reviewable technical foul. Again, this isn't a player trying to play the game, it's a player trying to exploit the official.


I also think the NBA should consider a booth official with contact via headset with the head official to review things in real time. Not everything, just someone who can let the head official know when something very obvious and egregious was missed. Bad flops, double technicals, out of bounds, maybe a couple other things. We're at a point where someone watching the game on tv has a great view of most of the action and frequently gets a slow-mo replay at the perfect angle within 10 seconds of the play, so the NBA might need to leverage that.
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