The sports media is so finicky anyway, it's hard to keep their attention for more than a week.

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The CBA kicks in two years from now so that's why Cuban was offering short term deals. Tyson Chandler is being overpaid right now. 11ppg/10rbg. Great player and was in a great situation with Dallas which made him look awesome. Great reason why we won the ship but still being overpaid. He's not worthy of earning Dirk's kind of money.

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Hes being paid 13mm this year - not Dirk money. Starting centers will always be overpaid a little. Cuban will end up spending 8-10mm on some Haywood/Dampier type spare. Chandler is the perfect complement to Dirk at center - both offensively and defensively. All those years of suffering looking for a center and you can't overpay a little for a perennial DPOY candidate that's also the locker room emotional leader? In 2 years you could have traded him if he is not worth it. Many teams would take a chance at him just for his leadership and pedigree.

This is the bizarro Nash deal - Nash left and both he and the Mavs got better. Chandler left and both he and the Mavs fell into worse situations.

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But in two years you have to PAY TRIPLE for every dollar over the cap. Not really worth it in my opinion. And lets be honest, Barea and Chandler wanted TO GET PAID. Barea went to the ******* Timberwolves.

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Forget about Barea - didn't need him back anyway. You're right about the CBA becoming an issue, but it will be more about the new penalties/rules for being over the limit that will prohibit them from making trades and using the full mle for free agents. I think Cuban will always be willing to spend money - but now spending money will actually really hurts your flexibility within the rules. There's also the idea that this will all cause a lowering of salaries across the board for non-max star players like Chandler because no one will have the cap space to pay them. So Cuban thinks he can get a Chandler caliber star at his preferred 8-10mm/yr in 2 years. But again, I still think he could have unloaded Chandlers contract at that time

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Terry has been saying all year that he is playing for a big contract and I think the Mavs are ready to let him walk.

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Define "big". Knowing nothing at all about it, I'd be pretty shocked if he was offered anything more than what he is currently making ($11m?).
Also, isn't Odom coming off the books the same time Deron is a FA? So sign Kidd to a long-term deal for less than what he is making right now and make up the difference that way. Either that or let Kidd go, tank next year, and get a decent draft pick. Let Roddy B. and West run the offense next year.
It is just hard to believe the Mavs have painted themselves into such a corner with their FA situation that they couldn't re-sign the best defender in the NBA.

Come to think of it, with all the energy that has been spent on putting themselves in position for a "maybe", The Mavs probably could have tried spending money on some solid young pieces (non-superstars) to put around Dirk. That's the place that the Spurs have been in since '07, but they stayed relevant, and now it is starting to pay off.

Boiled down I just don't like the way teams sell themselves out for a "maybe". I'd rather see a team do everything they can to try to repeat, even if it means they may not get the next best thing two years later.

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Terry will probably be offered the mini mle of ~2.5mm because that's all the Mavs want to pay him. If Deron doesn't sign here then they'll give big money to Nash + a center or go creative with sign and trades. Cant bring back terry as the 2nd leading scorer again. Need an elite level creator/finisher.

Terry will be valued by young contenders looking for a clutch bench scorer and will be the consolation to whoever doesn't get Ray Allen

Kidd will likely take the veteran minimum at either Dallas or New Jersey and play backup to Deron. He's ready to wind down his role considerably

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Kidd to a LONG term contract? - Don't think Kidd has enough left to get a long term deal. Not sure he has enough left to be a starter for a full 82 game season.
Tank a year? - Not the way to do things outside a couple places in the NBA .
While I don't think anyone would argue that Terry DESERVES a big contract, that is what he has been saying all along that he wants. I would be shocked if he is back in Dallas.

I think we still take around a $2 million cap hit for Odom next year, but am not positive on that.

I do get a kick out of athletes who think a team should re-sign them, but only at a rate that they determine in their head that they're worth.

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Kidd to a LONG term contract?

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I'm just saying that's a way to get creative saving money in any given year. Instead of giving Kidd $10M next year or whatever he's currently making, give him $4M for 2-3 years. That way, he makes more money, but it is spread out over more years. In the event you DO sign Williams, you have a proven backup PG in Kidd who is costing you very little. In the event that you DON'T sign Williams, it gives you flexibility otherwise.
If I'm not mistaken, David Robinson did this in his twilight years in order to give the Spurs flexibility to re-sign Duncan in '99 as well as bring in talent to put around the twin towers. I think Shaq also did it with the Heat.

Kidd's contract has to be renounced first to make room for Deron. Can't do any restructuring. Same with Terry. That's why they will be forced to use just the mini-MLE on him for next year.

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Come to think of it, with all the energy that has been spent on putting themselves in position for a "maybe", The Mavs probably could have tried spending money on some solid young pieces (non-superstars) to put around Dirk. That's the place that the Spurs have been in since '07, but they stayed relevant, and now it is starting to pay off.

Boiled down I just don't like the way teams sell themselves out for a "maybe". I'd rather see a team do everything they can to try to repeat, even if it means they may not get the next best thing two years later.

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I overlooked this the first time. Makes no sense. Where have the Spurs spent money on solid young pieces? Aren't all their young players vet-min types or low draft picks? The Mavs have plenty of those, they're just not as good. Since 07 the Spurs have been spending dumb money on guys like Jefferson, Bonner, McDyess, Kurt Thomas. The Mavs are staying relevant while being flexible and positioning themselves for a huge free agent signing that will instantly make them contenders again. They took it one step too far with the Dwight Howard pursuit. And unfortunately none of the young guys have panned out considerably.

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Where have the Spurs spent money on solid young pieces? Aren't all their young players vet-min types or low draft picks?

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This is what I meant, I just didn't write it that way. Why doesn't Dallas put some energy into developing talent? The "spend some money" part refers to the fact that you can either aquire or draft 3 very good role players for the same price as a Deron Williams.

Are the Spurs just "lucky" that they can draft a guy like George Hill in the second round? Or that they can trade up for Kawhi Leonard and hit the jackpot? Or that they can pull Danny Green off the end of the Cavs bench and he starts to become a solid NBA starter after two seasons??? My point was that if Dallas spent some energy developing talent and then retaining it instead of setting themselves up for a Deron Williams "what if", they'd probably be in a better place.

They have a superstar in Dirk that does not appear to be slowing down much. They have a very serviceable and sometimes brilliant PG. They HAD the defensive player of the year and a very, very solid perimeter defender (Stevenson). I just don't get why you wouldn't ride that championship formula until it can't haul anymore, instead of blowing it up for a CHANCE at getting some good FA's next summer. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.

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Since 07 the Spurs have been spending dumb money on guys like Jefferson, Bonner, McDyess, Kurt Thomas.

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This is completely wrong. Jefferson is the only one of these that can be classified as "dumb money". Dumb money = $5m plus and/or 3 years+. And had he worked out like the entire league thought he would, it wouldn't have been all that dumb.

Bonner is making $3M/yr to be the best 3-pt shooter in the leauge, and has turned into a decent post defender.

McDyess was one of the most sought after FA's and signed 3 years at $5M per. How is it dumb money to sign a great low post defender with a very good offensive game to $5M per year?

Kurt Thomas was aquired via trade for Brent Barry and Franciso Elson and was only on board for 2 years. Even though he is currenly 63 years old, he is STILL the best player among those three and was making MLE type money in his 2nd contract year for the Spurs.

MassAggie is obviously not understanding the repercussions of the CBA.

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My point was that if Dallas spent some energy developing talent and then retaining it instead of setting themselves up for a Deron Williams "what if", they'd probably be in a better place.

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They did try to develop talent, just like every consistently good team locked into the low draft picks. It didn't work out as well as previous years. 2 years ago most were projecting that Roddy Beaubois would develop into a solid starting PG. Give the Spurs credit - trading George Hill turned out to be a great move instead of letting him walk next year after getting a new contract. The Mavs let their young home grown talent walk away for overpriced contracts - Brandon Bass, JJ Barea, Gana Diop (indirectly).