Skip likes to vehemently tie himself to one side or the other of polarizing athletes (LeBron, Tebow) to keep himself relevant.

What a joke. Props to Cubes.

Skip Bayless = Simplebay.

Sweeping inflammatory comments with huge generalities and no substance

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So glad he called skip and all media guys out who just play the "they wanted it more" card instead of really trying to understand why teams win and lose.

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I think that's the first time ever that the "wanted it more" analysis got called out. So great b/c that analysis is pure garbage and just a cop-out for commentators and sports writers that don't know how to actually break down performances.

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Sweeping inflammatory comments with huge generalities and no substance

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Actually that is par for the course with most reporters these days, at least on a national level. They are pretty much arse clowns that repeat what others have said.

If a former player says something, like Sir Charles, then I will listen since he may have a point. But some pencilneck like Bayless, please.

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If a former player says something, like Sir Charles, then I will listen since he may have a point. But some pencilneck like Bayless, please.

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I don't know if you saw, but someone called Bayless out on never being a player and he countered with "I was a starter on the runner up for State." Someone went back and dug up the boxscore and it showed that someone named Bayless was on the team, but they didn't take a shot in the entire game and were not listed as a starter.

ahem...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/jalen-rose-calls-skip-bayless-air-trumped-high-214530179.html

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It's been well-established that ESPN's Skip Bayless is a workout fiend. He spends endless hours on the treadmill, and looks to be in fantastic shape for his age. It's also been well-established that Bayless is a fame-hungry sellout that will say anything on air (and formerly, before he realized it wasn't making him famous enough, in print) just to draw a reaction, and more eyes, and more ratings. Recently, Bayless criticized Oklahoma City point guard Russell Westbrook without the slightest bit of basketball smarts, or hint of nuance, much less research. OKC All-Star Kevin Durant rightfully took his obsessive brand of ignorance to task, and Bayless responded by pumping up his own credits as a high school point guard who finally learned that PGs should think "pass" 12 times before they fire away, on Twitter.
Bayless' ESPN co-host Jalen Rose, after a bit of research of his own, took on Skip after Bayless claimed that he started as a shot-happy point guard for a high school team that made the state finals in Oklahoma. Bayless didn't start for his high school squad, it turns out, and didn't even play for the varsity until his senior season, when he averaged 1.4 points per game. Here's the video of Rose calling a clearly uncomfortable Bayless out:

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Damn.

What was Jalen thinking? Trying to call out a guy that averages 1.4 a game on varsity.

Bayless has game.

[This message has been edited by AgBeliever (edited 6/25/2012 2:42p).]

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Do you think Stephen A. Smith was thinking "I'm glad it's not me", or focusing on not busting out laughing?

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Watch the whole thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyjCgfDDIrU

From the link above, you can get to parts two and three.

Part II:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09M62C9rVLE&feature=youtu.be

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I think that's the first time ever that the "wanted it more" analysis got called out. So great b/c that analysis is pure garbage and just a cop-out for commentators and sports writers that don't know how to actually break down performances.

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I think you should look at some of the Jordan v. Kobe (or LBJ) threads, or really, a good chunk of sport related threads on texags for this similar analysis.


It's amazing how much Jordan's "Will to win" and "killer instinct" appeared when he had strong teammates to go with him.

To be fair, though, Cuban obviously had no idea what he was talking about, either. It was like 2 idiots on TA debating each other. Crawford asked him a simple question about what exactly they did to shut down Lebron and he basically spit out "adjustments" and "confusion" which is just as empty as Skips "will to win" comments. And then his response to his own question about the defensive scheme that the Thunder utilized against Lebron was just as atrocious. "They double down, and then they dish." LOLWUT?

I've become a huge fan of Cuban and I agree with him here.. but it was pretty funny to see him backtrack when Lamar Odom was brought up.

Cuban is still right. But Stephan A got him on that one.

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I think you should look at some of the Jordan v. Kobe (or LBJ) threads, or really, a good chunk of sport related threads on texags for this similar analysis.


It's amazing how much Jordan's "Will to win" and "killer instinct" appeared when he had strong teammates to go with him.

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I didn't realize we were commentators and sports writers....which I specified my post to...

Will to win is a factor, but its not as important as a lot of people think, just like "clutchness". Simple concepts are exaggerated or over-diagnosed to replace more thorough analysis.

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To be fair, though, Cuban obviously had no idea what he was talking about, either. It was like 2 idiots on TA debating each other. Crawford asked him a simple question about what exactly they did to shut down Lebron and he basically spit out "adjustments" and "confusion" which is just as empty as Skips "will to win" comments. And then his response to his own question about the defensive scheme that the Thunder utilized against Lebron was just as atrocious. "They double down, and then they dish." LOLWUT?

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So far, no one has been able to stop the Heat except the Mavs. You expect him to expose exactly what helped them?

It's a good thing there aren't hours of publicly-available high-definition footage of that series allowing a thorough analysis of everything the Mavs did to defend Lebron.

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Crawford asked him a simple question about what exactly they did to shut down Lebron and he basically spit out "adjustments" and "confusion" which is just as empty as Skips "will to win" comments. And then his response to his own question about the defensive scheme that the Thunder utilized against Lebron was just as atrocious. "They double down, and then they dish." LOLWUT?

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I noticed this too. He kinda slogged through those questions. When you're in the moment sometimes it's hard to verbalize exactly what you mean. Is that what happened? I'm not sure. But it's pretty clear that Cuban could talk circles around Bayless when it comes to basketball strategy, although that's not saying all that much.

I suspect that Cuban does know what they did and just wasn't prepared to spout it off. That said, if I were going to go on national television and talk s*** about how little someone else knows about sports, you can bet that I would prepare beforehand to expound on the topics of the day in detail.