I remember in the playoffs a couple of year ago Dirk did something crazy like this, so I looked it up. Dirk had 48 on 15 shots. (Dirk was 24-24 from the line that night; Lebron was 8-11).

Can anybody remember any other times when someone averaged something crazy like 3 points per shot with more 30 points or more?

Harden does it sometimes, bc he gets to the free throw line a lot and shoots a lot of high percentage shots

He's amazing and yet you still have people denying him of the "all time greatest" status. I'm glad I got to watch him play in person

Lebron has been playing on a new level lately.

5 straight games with at least 30 points and 60% from the floor. Never been done before.

5th consecutive 30 point game while shooting above 60%

Somebody else was just watching the LA/Miami game.

Lebron is the best ever at SF. I take him over Bird, Pippen, Dr. J, Baylor any day.

Kareem is the gold standard for scoring efficiently. Cap's career average of 25 points/game on over 1 point per shot efficiency is amazing in any context, but especially so over a 20 year NBA career.

LBJ has never done that before? Or anybody?

I would have bet that Chamberlain did that 5 games in a row.

1 point per shot is pretty average. I think you mean two points per shot

I had bad info, but it was close:

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It was James' fifth straight game with at least 30 points, a franchise record. He also joined Adrian Dantley (1979) and Moses Malone (1982) as the only NBA players to score at least 30 and shoot at least 60 percent in five straight outings.

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http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/recap?id=400278473

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1 point per shot is pretty average. I think you mean two points per shot

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I went back at looked at the study I referenced and it was not a traditional PPS calculation - it incorporated both FGA and FTA. For example, a guy scores 20 points on 14 FGA and 6 FTA he is at 1.0 PPS. Based on this calculation only three NBA players have averaged over 20.0 PPG and over 1.0 PPS for their career (Bird, Ray Allen, Kareem). Guys like Shaq and Wilt miss due to horrible FT% and guys like AI miss due to low FG%. Guys like Reggie Miller are over 1.0 PPS, but averaged less than 20.0 PPG.

It's a bit of a screwball metric, but like any metric it does tell a story. For those of us who have watched Kareem play (live or archive footage) the man never took a bad shot and was as solid a foul shooter as you'll find at the center position (72.1% career average).

Wow, just saw that Jordan had 10 triple-doubles in 11 games whilst averaging 34/game in 1989.

make it 6 in a row.

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James has made 66 of his past 92 shots, over the past six games -- and is an absurd 60 for 80, or 75 percent, in his last 188 minutes of court time. According to the Heat, only Adrian Dantley and Moses Malone had done the 30-point, 60-percent streak in five straight outings before James joined their club.

Now he stands alone.

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Lebron's February is cute and all...

but in Feb 2003 Kobe scored 40 plus in 9 straight games, and averaged 40.6 points for the entire month while shooting above 50%, 6rpg, 5apg

Shooting 75% over that volume of shots, with the variety of shots he is taking, is absolutely incredible. Quit trolling, Simple.

I remember when Kobe did that. He desperately tried to keep that streak alive by jacking up over 40 shots and still lost by like 10 to the Spurs.

40-point streak was way more important than winning.

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ah yeah. Soup again with a classic post.

Lets have a look at his conjecture about that night/season.

-Shaq was out of shape, badly. this is documented and confirmed by Phil.
-Samaki Walker started
-The lakers were 26-24 coming off a road trip in Denver, playing 7 games in 11 days while the spurs were 35-16 and won the title that year

Kobe's line that night-
44pts, 6rbs, 4 asts, 4 steals, 46% FG, 67% 3pt, and was a team high in the +/- category

Everything there suggests Kobe was the reason the game was as close as it was (5pt game with 5mins to go).

41 shots, 7 turnovers seem to be lacking in your line.

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and was a team high in the +/- category

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Kobe was -6.
Mark Madsen was +4.
Horry -3
George -2
Rush -5
Fisher -6
Walker -6
Fox -6

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-Shaq was out of shape, badly. this is documented and confirmed by Phil.

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Shaq averaged 28/11 for the season and it wasn't like this was November. Shaq had played like 40 games at that point. A couple games later when Kobe was finished with his little 40-point thing, Shaq went on a monster tear to finish out the season.


I'm sure Kobe's 22 missed shots and 7 turnovers didn't contribute at all to the Lakers losing. Good call, Champ.

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Yes because when Kobe shoots poorly and has a high number of turnovers that's automatically the reason the Lakers lose and its because kobe is selfish

Its not like he could miss 87% of his shots and have 8 turnovers and the Lakers could win right?

That hasn't happened since like, Tuesday

I'll entertain a lot of arguments about Kobe's career, but I'll have none of this "he doesn't care about winning talk". The man is a 5x world champion and still has an insatiable appetite for championships.

Kobe cares about winning, he cares a lot about it, but his actions can still make his team less likely to win. I don't know if I believe that he truly cares more about being "the man" than he cares about winning like you hear sometimes, but it's not off the table either. He has swagger and confidence... so much so that he always thinks he is the best option on the court, even when he's triple teamed beyond the arc and there's a guy standing wide open under the basket. He's a smart player, but he's also a control freak and an egomaniac; hopefully that's not too controversial, because those are among the qualities that made him what he is.

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I don't know if I believe that he truly cares more about being "the man" than he cares about winning like you hear sometimes

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Do you think he separates these two things?

I thought about that, guitar. He has to win to be considered "the man", but at the same time "the man" is "supposed" to take (and make) the shot. I wonder what the tradeoff is for him. If you ask him in an interview and he is being completely honest, he would probably rather watch a teammate hit the shot than miss the shot himself, but his ego won't let him believe he will miss the shot especially when he's hopped up on adrenaline.

To be confident at a level like Kobe, you know you are making that shot. And I think Kobe trusts his well defended jumper over anyone else's open jumper with the game on the line every time. I think Kobe wants to win it and takes a difficult shot over giving it away if he can.

But two of the most memorable shots for the Bulls in Jordan's time were Paxton's and Kerr's game winners. Jordan clearly had the same killer instinct that he was the best player in on the court, but he was happy to defer to the wide open guy when it mattered.

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Unrelated, but how many jerseys do the Miami Heat have? I swear it seems like they have at least six.