OKC Outed

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oldarmy1
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In other news the entire OKC come out as gay. Fouling a player without the ball starting with over 5 minutes left = total gayness.
gordo97
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Not that there is anything wrong with that
HotardAg07
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Swing and... miss.
8T2
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They actually started at 6:22. How that must suck as a fan knowing that your team has conceded superiority...at home...with a 3-1 series lead.
Gigem Trevas
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As a number one seed too.
f1ghtintexasaggie
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Asked on game thread with no response. Anybody got an answer?

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Forgive my ignorance, I do not watch the NBA often. How are these not intentional fouls? No attempt is being made at the ball...?

zgood10
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Good question
Ganondorf
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They are intentional fouls. I don't get the question.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hack-a-Shaq
f1ghtintexasaggie
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Yeah, okay, I was just reading that. By "intentional foul", I meant the following situation:

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The NBA decided to address this undesirable situation by instituting a new rule regarding off-the-ball fouls—that is, committing a personal foul against an offensive player who neither has the ball nor is making an effort to obtain it. The new rule stated that if the defensive team commits an off-the-ball foul within the last two minutes of the game, the offensive team would be allowed to keep possession of the ball after the awarding of either one or two free throws. Since the entire reason for employing intentional fouling as a strategy was to quickly terminate the offensive team's possession, this new rule, when in effect, forced the team using intentional fouling to foul only the offensive player who had the ball.


If Wikipedia is correct, it seems that in the NBA, this situation only applies in the last two minutes of the game.
8T2
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Asik was awarded two free throws every time from the foul at 6:22 until they stopped fouling him. An intentional foul gets you two FTs. Is there something else expected?
f1ghtintexasaggie
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Were we not in the bonus when they started intentionally fouling? I could have missed that. Working on a paper.
f1ghtintexasaggie
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Not trying to be a jackass. Just curious.
8T2
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It seemed like they did not get into the bonus until the 2nd or 3rd foul.
Houston Summit
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Asik was awarded two free throws every time from the foul at 6:22 until they stopped fouling him. An intentional foul gets you two FTs. Is there something else expected?

You get the ball back after the free throws
f1ghtintexasaggie
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I just was always under the impression that an intentional foul = technical foul situation. 2 FT w/ possession?
8T2
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Eh, I was wrong. The foul at 6:22 was a shooting foul. Asik was fouled again at 5:50 and did not get FTs. At 5:33 he is fouled again. This is the 5th team foul, so Asik gets FTs. However, he misses the first and gets a 2nd, so clearly they are 2 shot fouls.
mAgnoliAg
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That is a FLAGRANT foul. These were only intentional fouls every time which is just 2 free throws
8T2
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Thanks, Mag.
mAgnoliAg
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He got free throws right when they started it. They didn't have to foul him A couple times before he got em because they are intentional fouls
f1ghtintexasaggie
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Mag, do you know if the rule is any different in high school or college ball? I recall being called for an intentional foul in high school, and I believe the other team got 2 FT and possession. The situation was different though, I fouled a guy with the ball on a breakaway as the last defender back.
f1ghtintexasaggie
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Not a flagrant. Just simple slap at the arm from behind.
mAgnoliAg
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I think it's different but I'm not sure.
mAgnoliAg
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College may actually be the same, but I never see hack a shaq in CBB
f1ghtintexasaggie
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Okay, thanks!
RAB91
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So what would happen if Asik never came inbounds...just stood by the basket support? Not that he needed to.
Ganondorf
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I'm not sure. I think you could just foul him out of bounds because he's one of the 5 actively playing.

The wiki for Hack a Shaq states that Wilt used to run around in essentially a game of tag because they would foul him in close games. He was a 50% free throw shooter and knew he'd be going to the line.
gougler08
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Pretty sure the definition of intentional foul in college vs. pros is different. You don't see this in college because if the ref calls it intentional, the offense keeps the ball.

I think I remember there being some outrage after we beat Kansas as we hacked a Khan a couple times down the stretch and people said it could have been construed that KU would keep the ball. That was a while ago so I could just be making things up
mAgnoliAg
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So what would happen if Asik never came inbounds...just stood by the basket support? Not that he needed to.

Interesting question but we would never do that because 4 on 5 with our offense is not good.
Sher Thing
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OKC still gunna win the series.
Sher Thing
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You outed them alright.
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