The more I think about this, the less I know who to give it to. Duncan, Green, Leonard, and Parker could each justifiably be given the award, as of right now.

Not trolling. I just find it amusing you're playing favorites with your own players and acting like anyone can knock down the shots Green is knocking down. The guy is playing incredible and deserves credit for it.

He does deserve credit for it and I think everyone is giving that to him.

I'm not playing favorites at all. I simply believe that Duncan is a more valuable player to the Spurs success than Green, even with Green's outstanding shooting.

Green has clearly been the biggest story of this finals so far IMO. Obviously he isn't the best player on the team but nobody else really stands out.

He absolutely deserves credit for making those shots. He's been incredible. That doesn't make him an MVP though. When you have an All Time Big Man and multiple guys that can drive to the basket and make incredible passes it is a perfect recipe for a jump shooter.

Spur fans are just used to role players getting hot and hitting open 3's. SA has always been the easiest place in the NBA to shoot above 40% from 3. Green has been unusual in that he has done it for several games now and that is awesome! A lot of that has still been more about Miami still refusing to change their gameplan, teams typically just won't leave the open shooter wide open game after game.

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Not trolling.

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Perhaps if he'd shoot as well as Green, we wouldn't be having this conversation. The great ones find ways to score even in hardship.

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Simplebay.

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Spur fans are just used to role players getting hot and hitting open 3's.

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One of the biggest reasons for the long title drought is the failure to replace Bowen and Horry with competent clutch shooters in the playoffs. If Danny Green had shot this well last year then the Spurs would have beat OKC. This is a big deal and you'll need Green, Leonard and/or Neal for one more game.

You are half right. They needed to replace Bruce Bowen but they needed to replace his defense, not his shooting. Bowen would match up with the best perimeter player on the other team. Yes, he also shot 3's but they always had a couple other guys that could do that too.

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Spurs fans are kind of used to seeing guys step in and hit open threes. That is just 39.0% and up.

Okay. Now make a 3rd column showing playoffs 3p% to make it relevant to this thread.

HAHA, **** that.

I think it is pretty relevant that a LOT of different players have had great (or their best) seasons shooting the long ball with Duncan opening them up. Three different guys for the Spurs have led the NBA in 3FG% in the Duncan era.

But playoffs shooting from role players is a whole different ball game. And the Spurs have a history with arguably the greatest ever role player/clutch 3 point shooter Horry. And they essentially replaced Horry with Matt Bonner, who has been great in the regular season. And replaced Bowen with Richard Jefferson /Roger Mason. Decent regular season players who shrank from the moment in the playoffs.

So it's a big deal what Green/Neal and Leonard are doing with Green being the most consistent at an historic level.

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It seems like, IF the spurs win one more, the winning game will determine the MVP award because there are 2-3 guys who are neck-and-neck right now

Parker
Duncan
Green

In the end though he's still just averaging a little over 18 points for the series and that's by far his greatest contribution. He doesn't get many boards or assists or other stats, he has a total of 5 assists for the entire series while playing Guard. He doesn't guard Wade or Lebron unless it is in transition or a switch. He shoots 3's when he is wide open and makes them. Period. As great as that is it isn't the MVP.

If he hits another 6 threes in a close-out game then I don't think anyone would object to giving Green the MVP. Tony or Tim will most likely be the ones to seal this thing up on the road though.

Both are just as deserving, you can even make a case for Leonard. That's why the Spurs are the ultimate TEAM. It's a total group effort.

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But playoffs shooting from role players is a whole different ball game. And the Spurs have a history with arguably the greatest ever role player/clutch 3 point shooter Horry. And they essentially replaced Horry with Matt Bonner, who has been great in the regular season. And replaced Bowen with Richard Jefferson /Roger Mason. Decent regular season players who shrank from the moment in the playoffs.

So it's a big deal what Green/Neal and Leonard are doing with Green being the most consistent at an historic level.

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Except that the Spurs have had a lot of players that shot great in the playoffs. No Spur hit 40% in 99, but Jaren Jackson killed the Lakers with threes and Elliott shot great throughout the playoffs including the Memorial Day Miracle. Antonio Daniels lit up the Kincks, too.

In 01, Danny Ferry and Antonio Daniels both shot great.

I'm sure you remember Steve Kerr driving in the final nail in the Mavs coffin in 03. Bowen shot great throughout the playoffs at his spot and Manu and SJax alternated hot streaks.

In 04 it was Parker (bc he was afraid to drive against Malone), Bowen and Devin Brown

In 05, Manu was great and all the role player shooters were great. T best spurs team ever.

06 it was Brent Barry and Bowen before Ginobilis foul, and in 07, mike Finley came up big in the playoffs with Bowen and Manu as well. Udoka hit some nice shots in 08 nd Barry still didn't suck.

Spurs have always had guys that came up big in the playoffs from outside.

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You produced a half-assed list that highlited mostly the championship teams and suddenly stopped counting after 2007. Doesn't really challenge anything I said at all.

Why is it that you won't admit that the Spurs role players are shooting better this year compared to the 5 year drought?

Sorry my half assed list didn't meet your requirements. It was all I could type in my iPad while taking a dump before I had to start shooting the Astros game. Didn't really have time to spend an hours on basketball reference.

Green isn't just hitting some threes. He's broken the record for threes in a finals series through five games and he's hitting at a pretty insane percentage (65%). I'd argue that his barrage in game 3 was a little bit of front running, but otherwise it's been timely and effective. Hes not just volume shooting his numbers up and he's hitting a higher percentage than pretty much every shooter in the planet would in spot up situations, save maybe Curry or Allen.

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IMHO the overall MVP of this series for the Spurs has been Kawhi Leonard

Here is another perspective. I'm only looking at the Spurs wins. In game 1 which really set the tone for the series, Parker and Duncan came up big and led the team. Green was solid but not great in that game. He did have a 3 down the stretch in the 4th qtr but Parker scored 10 including the free throws that put them ahead. Game 3 was obviously Green's game although it could be argued that Neal actually hit more clutch shots in that one. Duncan still had a double-double including 7 offensive rebounds. Game 5 everybody had a pretty good game. Duncan double-double, 3 blocks, Green 24 pts, 6-10 from 3 and 3 blocks, Parker 26 pts, 10-14 in FGs. And although Green hit 2 clutch shots in the 4th qtr when the Heat were making a comeback, Parker again had 9 points and 2 assists in the 4th.

I would not be upset if Green or Duncan won it but I would give it to Parker based on how he plays when it counts iin the 4th qtr. Just my 2 cents.

If Danny Green wins it, then the Spurs will have 3 NBA Finals MVPs on their roster.

If Tim Duncan wins it, then he'll have the 2nd most (4) behind only Jordan (6)

If Tim puts up 30 and 10 in a close out, it's his

Green. Zero to hero.

If the Spurs win tonight and Duncan keeps this up, he'll win the MVP going away.

Tim Duncan after that half. It's done.

duncan is dominating tonight and has had good games

i just don't know if the spurs are still playing without danny green's awesome shooting. the only spur who's been good every game offensively

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Timmy almost did that in the first half!

Duncan seals the deal tonight

Duncan all the way. Dominating

Duncan has absolutely locked this up tonight.

Omg Parkerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

You don't destroy a record like Green has and not win the MVP

Still...

Danny Green

The answer was LeBron. But thanks for playing.