UMichAg said:

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MondayMorningQB said:

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Clown argument. How about 8 mins in the fourth quarter Harden didn't attempt a shot to end the game?

Bring some facts.

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I literally brought facts - his scoring average. You brought opinions.

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"Harden, who is perhaps more skilled than anyone in the world at creating his own shot, had but a single attempt in the final 8:58 a layup with 18.6 seconds remaining. Too little, too late."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thebiglead.com/2019/05/09/james-harden-took-one-shot/amp/

Oh you mean the game where Chris Paul went 3 for 14 shooting? Seriously dude, your argument is terrible.

Keep deflecting on a baseless argument. You seriously want to entertain the notion that CP had all control and there's not enough ball to go around? Mkay guess all those points Harden posted were meaningless and he's not the leader after all.

Harden disappeared. But don't let facts cloud your judgment.

Oy, this analysis is so shallow and lazy it's not worth arguing against.

Nice lazy rebuttal to an observation not analysis. Question still stands, where's Harden leadership when the team needs him?

Open to hearing and changing opinion by all means. I'm not a harden hater or fanboy apologist.

MondayMorningQB said:

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Keep deflecting on a baseless argument. You seriously want to entertain the notion that CP had all control and there's not enough ball to go around? Mkay guess all those points Harden posted were meaningless and he's not the leader after all.

Harden disappeared. But don't let facts cloud your judgment.

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Yeah but did Harden disappear in the playoff two years ago? Oh yeah, he did, think he was 2 for 11 and let his team get blown out...at home...MVP MVP MVP!

The biggest issue is that Chris Paul and James Harden do not complement each other and they certainly don't lift the game of the other. Paul can't shoot the three reliably and Harden is not a catch and shoot type of guy. Making matters worse, the offense when Harden is at the helm is almost the exact opposite when Paul is at the helm.

The Raptors just made the final, in large part because a nobody, Van Fleet shot 11-14 from 3 the last 2 games. Kawhi was 1-8 from 3, scored just 27 points in game six, yet people are hailing Kawhi as one of the top 3 players in the game right now. Another words the super star on the winning team sometimes gets too much credit and also likely too much blame.

texagbeliever said:

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The biggest issue is that Chris Paul and James Harden do not complement each other and they certainly don't lift the game of the other. Paul can't shoot the three reliably and Harden is not a catch and shoot type of guy. Making matters worse, the offense when Harden is at the helm is almost the exact opposite when Paul is at the helm.

The Raptors just made the final, in large part because a nobody, Van Fleet shot 11-14 from 3 the last 2 games. Kawhi was 1-8 from 3, scored just 27 points in game six, yet people are hailing Kawhi as one of the top 3 players in the game right now. Another words the super star on the winning team sometimes gets too much credit and also likely too much blame.

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Houston fans probably don't understand this, but Kawhi plays defense. Even when he might not be having his best night offensively, he still is probably the best defender in the league right now

ColoradoMooseHerd said:

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texagbeliever said:

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The biggest issue is that Chris Paul and James Harden do not complement each other and they certainly don't lift the game of the other. Paul can't shoot the three reliably and Harden is not a catch and shoot type of guy. Making matters worse, the offense when Harden is at the helm is almost the exact opposite when Paul is at the helm.

The Raptors just made the final, in large part because a nobody, Van Fleet shot 11-14 from 3 the last 2 games. Kawhi was 1-8 from 3, scored just 27 points in game six, yet people are hailing Kawhi as one of the top 3 players in the game right now. Another words the super star on the winning team sometimes gets too much credit and also likely too much blame.

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Houston fans probably don't understand this, but Kawhi plays defense. Even when he might not be having his best night offensively, he still is probably the best defender in the league right now

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He plays defense when he isn't faking an injury and actually showing up.