There are no deals for us to make. We can't trade any first round draft picks. And I don't think we are getting anything for a second round pick.Guitarsoup said:Or a team like the Knicks decide they want to blow it up and rebuild, so they trade their franchise player for a young kind of meh point guard and cap space.Grapesoda2525 said:
The unfortunate thing about powder is that it doesn't win games. It just sits there the whole season. The mavs always say "we'll get em next year! We will have cap space and nobody else will!". Other teams always have cap space.
What an epic fail.
Rockets have been shopping Capela and Gordon for a draft pick. Right now the only teams that can do that are the Clippers, Mavs, and Lakers and the Lakers won't do it.
Washington was shopping Beal, because they need to blow it up.
I think there are a lot of potential moves to be made.
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I don't mind the Seth Curry signing. He should score easily with Doncic. But we really need a good 3+D wing, and there aren't many left. I'm assuming we are hoping to get Danny Green. But Seth Curry and whatever else we are going to get is alot worse than Beverly/Ross and Bogdanovic.
still wondering where the rebounds are going to come from on this teammavsfan4ever said:
I don't mind the Seth Curry signing. He should score easily with Doncic. But we really need a good 3+D wing, and there aren't many left. I'm assuming we are hoping to get Danny Green. But Seth Curry and whatever else we are going to get is alot worse than Beverly/Ross and Bogdanovic.
Miami just traded Whiteside to Portland so no Dragic
I think they're still looking to shed salary. Pretty sure they still can't trade for Butler yet.2wealfth Man said:
Miami just traded Whiteside to Portland so no Dragic
It wouldn't surprise me if Green had a tentative deal with the Mavs in place in the event that Kawhi goes to LA because Green won't take the vet min when he could get 8-10mm/year.
Dang, these are all nice role players but we really needed another foundational type player and the only "asset" we had left to get one was cap space. I at least wish they would have swung and missed on someone. I just don't know what the front office was doing here.
Dragic may not be off the table. Miami is still over 15mm over the hard cap, which they can't be to bring in Jimmy Butler.
Grapesoda2525 said:
I'm crossing my fingers that they still get green. Maybe we could outscore teams to death.
Yeah, this is why I was trying not to freak out after yesterday because there was/is still a path to have a successful off season. The Kelly Olynyk thing was about to push me over the edge though, Kleber is better than that guy. It also looks like my "Plan Powder" theory is going out the window considering the Seth Curry deal is 4 years. I like the deal though. 8M per is reasonable for an elite shooting specialist. That contract can also be traded if need be.
If the Danny Green thing works out (he seems to have a deal in place with Dallas if Kawahi goes LAC/LAL) then the Mavs team building plan becomes more clear. They might be trying to play an extreme version of Morey-ball. Basically just pair Luka with 4 elite shooters:
Seth Curry (45.0% from 3 last year)
Kristaps Porzingis (39.5% from 3 in 2017-2018)
and maybe
Danny Green (45.5% from 3 last year)
Marcus Morris (37.5% from 3 last year) or JaMychael Green (40.3% from 3 last year)
Mavs don't have to be frugal this off-season in order to have enough to go big in two years when Giannis is a free agent. Lee and Hardaway's contracts expire by then and they account for 31 million in cap space. It's next off-season the Mavs will have to be diligent with their cap space. They can go for role players this year that are good enough to get them to a 4-8 seed and then swing for the fences in two years when they've proven their abilities and their support system to Luka/Porzingis.
An all-star could look at that team and think "They're young, they're a middling playoff team and with me they become a contender." Instead of "They're young, and they become a middling playoff team with me."
If the Mavs do nothing more than add defensive and three point specialists this off-season I think they did what they needed to do in the long term as long as those players are 30 years old or younger (as defensive players). or 32 or younger for 3 point specialists.
An all-star could look at that team and think "They're young, they're a middling playoff team and with me they become a contender." Instead of "They're young, and they become a middling playoff team with me."
If the Mavs do nothing more than add defensive and three point specialists this off-season I think they did what they needed to do in the long term as long as those players are 30 years old or younger (as defensive players). or 32 or younger for 3 point specialists.
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Mavs need rebounders bad. If they can get Danny green (good defender) and a rebounder with whatever is left i would be happy.
Finish this thing with Danny Green and Chiek Diallo and I'll be 'content.' Add shooting, perimeter defense, and rebounding.rsf0626 said:
Mavs need rebounders bad. If they can get Danny green (good defender) and a rebounder with whatever is left i would be happy.
Other good rebounders at the 5:
Zubac
Kanter
Yea, I'm good with the Curry deal. I think 8M per year is going to look really good in the next couple of years for Seth. I don't ever see that looking like a bad contract.jeffdjohnson said:Grapesoda2525 said:
I'm crossing my fingers that they still get green. Maybe we could outscore teams to death.
Yeah, this is why I was trying not to freak out after yesterday because there was/is still a path to have a successful off season. The Kelly Olynyk thing was about to push me over the edge though, Kleber is better than that guy. It also looks like my "Plan Powder" theory is going out the window considering the Seth Curry deal is 4 years. I like the deal though. 8M per is reasonable for an elite shooting specialist. That contract can also be traded if need be.
The $$ is slightly more than i hoped but that 4th year team option more than makes up for it. FANTASTIC deal.
Too late to try to steal Jimmy Butler, I guess.
Danny Green and Diallo then I guess people can put the pitchforks away.
It's still very concerning that they spent their first night of free agency on that trade tho and that olynynk was the guy they valued. Thankfully it got blown up.
It's still very concerning that they spent their first night of free agency on that trade tho and that olynynk was the guy they valued. Thankfully it got blown up.
Happy to have Maxi back. Does stuff nobody else on this team can. Good defender, excellent shot blocker and can shoot the 3 ball somewhat
Would it even be the Mavs without a really tall German at PF?
Chris Paul may be available?
On the plus side once his contract did expire you would have a lot of cap room.
On the plus side once his contract did expire you would have a lot of cap room.
"Fort Worth where the West begins...and Dallas is where the East peters out!"
It's almost too bad DJ already signed in Brooklyn
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I still don't get how the pacers got brogdon over us....like the curry pickup, but ONLY if we also get Green. Can't believe we're going to be the team at the end of this holding our peckers.
You know LAL is going to get vet role guys lining up to play with Bron and AD, even if they whiff on Kawhi. If they do whiff on Kawhi, they'll easily be able to get whoever is decent left in FA (which now consists of like 3 humans)
You know LAL is going to get vet role guys lining up to play with Bron and AD, even if they whiff on Kawhi. If they do whiff on Kawhi, they'll easily be able to get whoever is decent left in FA (which now consists of like 3 humans)
Maybe they don't want green at the price he wants. Probably our best hope.ghostofthebanned said:
I still don't get how the pacers got brogdon over us....like the curry pickup, but ONLY if we also get Green. Can't believe we're going to be the team at the end of this holding our peckers.
You know LAL is going to get vet role guys lining up to play with Bron and AD, even if they whiff on Kawhi. If they do whiff on Kawhi, they'll easily be able to get whoever is decent left in FA (which now consists of like 3 humans)
Pacers gave Milwaukee draft picks for Brogdon. That's how they got him over us.
Guitarsoup said:
Would it even be the Mavs without a really tall German at PF?
From the same city, no less
They tossed him a big deal with draft compensation. We may have been able to pay him the money but we have no draft assets to entice Mil.ghostofthebanned said:
I still don't get how the pacers got brogdon over us....like the curry pickup, but ONLY if we also get Green. Can't believe we're going to be the team at the end of this holding our peckers.
You know LAL is going to get vet role guys lining up to play with Bron and AD, even if they whiff on Kawhi. If they do whiff on Kawhi, they'll easily be able to get whoever is decent left in FA (which now consists of like 3 humans)
true....they hardly talked about that trade, so wasn't much to go on there.M.C. Swag said:They tossed him a big deal with draft compensation. We may have been able to pay him the money but we have no draft assets to entice Mil.ghostofthebanned said:
I still don't get how the pacers got brogdon over us....like the curry pickup, but ONLY if we also get Green. Can't believe we're going to be the team at the end of this holding our peckers.
You know LAL is going to get vet role guys lining up to play with Bron and AD, even if they whiff on Kawhi. If they do whiff on Kawhi, they'll easily be able to get whoever is decent left in FA (which now consists of like 3 humans)
I think it's a HUGE pickup for Indy...surprised it was barely talked about in all the madness yesterday
Come on Kawhi...make a decision.
It all seems to hinge on green.
If the mavs get him, I like these moves. If not, not so much....
If the mavs get him, I like these moves. If not, not so much....
I don't understand how the Clippers got Miami to attach a future first for Harkless (a starting caliber player on a similar deal as Olynk) when we didn't/couldnt.
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