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AG@RICE
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8:37a, 11/19/20
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I'm still struggling with the logic of the Roco trade.

They basically got back two late round first picks and the ability to spend 10 million in FA instead of 5 million.

I don't see how they are going to sign a player better than Roco with that money.
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In reply to AG@RICE • 8:40a, 11/19/20
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That was exactly my take. Dumping RoCo so you can sign someone at the MLE was a questionable move.
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In reply to AG@RICE • 8:41a, 11/19/20
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It only makes sense if we have an agreement with wood or Ibaka
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In reply to M.C. Swag • 10:21a, 11/19/20
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M.C. Swag said:
That was exactly my take. Dumping RoCo so you can sign someone at the MLE was a questionable move.
Unless they think the MLE they sign would be a better cultural fit for Harden/Russ. Maybe there's some sort of psychology thing going on behind the scene.

Largely though, I'm sure it's Tilman vying for a quasi-decent product at a lower cost.
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In reply to Texan_Aggie • 10:27a, 11/19/20
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Texan_Aggie said:
M.C. Swag said:
That was exactly my take. Dumping RoCo so you can sign someone at the MLE was a questionable move.
Unless they think the MLE they sign would be a better cultural fit for Harden/Russ. Maybe there's some sort of psychology thing going on behind the scene.

Largely though, I'm sure it's Tilman vying for a quasi-decent product at a lower cost.
I'm not so sure. I think we already have a FA agreement in place, and this move was necessary to make it happen.
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In reply to HotardRat • 12:20p, 11/19/20
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We're signing AD!
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12:36p, 11/19/20
Media loving this rumor that Harden wants out because Tillman supported Trump.
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In reply to Texaggie7nine • 1:13p, 11/19/20
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Texaggie7nine said:
Media loving this rumor that Harden wants out because Tillman supported Trump.
Pretty stupid because I bet most of the NBA owners support Trump.
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In reply to concac • 1:16p, 11/19/20
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RealTalk said:
Texaggie7nine said:
Media loving this rumor that Harden wants out because Tillman supported Trump.
Pretty stupid because I bet most of the NBA owners support Trump.
You mean the billionaire entrepreneurs are supporting the guy that is pro-business, not the guy that wants to raise taxes on the wealthy and on their corporations?

*shocked face*
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1:30p, 11/19/20
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In reply to Texaggie7nine • 1:30p, 11/19/20
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Texaggie7nine said:
Media loving this rumor that Harden wants out because Tillman supported Trump.


Zero chance that is true. Harden isn't even that woke.
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1:31p, 11/19/20
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Possible pickup?
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 1:46p, 11/19/20
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Guitarsoup said:
What a bull**** tweet. I also love "source" SZN where it is just generally accepted that a lot of people are going to throw **** against the wall and hope it sticks like this tweet and "verbal agreement to Nets" guy
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In reply to CFTXAG10 • 2:07p, 11/19/20
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CFTXAG10 said:
Guitarsoup said:
What a bull**** tweet. I also love "source" SZN where it is just generally accepted that a lot of people are going to throw **** against the wall and hope it sticks like this tweet and "verbal agreement to Nets" guy
Bulpett has covered the Celtics for the Herald since the Bird/McHale/Walton years. I would bet he has pretty good sources there.

Now, he may be just passing on BS after the trade talks fell through so the Celtics save face on not closing the deal, but I have no doubt he has really good sources.
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 2:28p, 11/19/20
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Guitarsoup said:
CFTXAG10 said:
Guitarsoup said:
What a bull**** tweet. I also love "source" SZN where it is just generally accepted that a lot of people are going to throw **** against the wall and hope it sticks like this tweet and "verbal agreement to Nets" guy
Bulpett has covered the Celtics for the Herald since the Bird/McHale/Walton years. I would bet he has pretty good sources there.

Now, he may be just passing on BS after the trade talks fell through so the Celtics save face on not closing the deal, but I have no doubt he has really good sources.
Yea, there are some exceptions, but its just funny what these "journalists" put out there or "are told to put out there" these days. Plus its hella-vague

Also, fwiw I see the Russ jamming out in his car with a Rockets shirt on today is making its rounds on Twitter. So there's that
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 3:43p, 11/19/20
Guitarsoup said:
CFTXAG10 said:
Guitarsoup said:
What a bull**** tweet. I also love "source" SZN where it is just generally accepted that a lot of people are going to throw **** against the wall and hope it sticks like this tweet and "verbal agreement to Nets" guy
Bulpett has covered the Celtics for the Herald since the Bird/McHale/Walton years. I would bet he has pretty good sources there.

Now, he may be just passing on BS after the trade talks fell through so the Celtics save face on not closing the deal, but I have no doubt he has really good sources.
We will never know, but it's not like what he tweeted doesn't totally makes sense. We have been sticking up for Harden for years, but all of this negative stuff coming out about him makes a lot more sense than the positive narratives we've been spinning around here simply because we like the way he plays ball.
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3:48p, 11/19/20
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Big moves.

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In reply to Harry Dunne • 4:04p, 11/19/20
I'm starting to think this might be Westbrook

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4:07p, 11/19/20
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In reply to Aggie09Derek • 4:08p, 11/19/20
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They're taking Oubre into that exception
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In reply to CFTXAG10 • 4:08p, 11/19/20
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Big moves.

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In reply to M.C. Swag • 4:13p, 11/19/20
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Ahh just saw that.


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In reply to Aggie09Derek • 4:19p, 11/19/20
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Aggie09Derek said:
Ahh just saw that.


Yeah, their taxes are crazy with the repeater tax. When they were discussing TheMarcus and 11 for Wiggins and 2, that deal would have saved them $50mm because of the repeater tax.
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In reply to Aggie09Derek • 9:05p, 11/19/20
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Aggie09Derek said:
Texaggie7nine said:
Media loving this rumor that Harden wants out because Tillman supported Trump.


Zero chance that is true. Harden isn't even that woke.
It's just a play to get on the good side of Twitter. Hoping to make people ignore that the organization has basically given him anything and everything he wanted for the last 8 years and he is in the process of ****ting all over them.

I'm sure tillman isn't exactly easy to work with, but James harden doesn't give a **** about who he supports for president.
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In reply to HotardRat • 8:13a, 11/20/20
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HotardRat said:
Texan_Aggie said:
M.C. Swag said:
That was exactly my take. Dumping RoCo so you can sign someone at the MLE was a questionable move.
Unless they think the MLE they sign would be a better cultural fit for Harden/Russ. Maybe there's some sort of psychology thing going on behind the scene.

Largely though, I'm sure it's Tilman vying for a quasi-decent product at a lower cost.
I'm not so sure. I think we already have a FA agreement in place, and this move was necessary to make it happen.
I still think it was a move to dump money....in this swirling chaos, what good player would pre-agree to this mess?
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In reply to AG@RICE • 9:26a, 11/20/20
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Because just like how high school recruits don't think like fans do, players don't think like fans do either.
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1:20p, 11/20/20
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If they aren't going to blow it up, I'd try to trade for Myles Turner. Maybe they would take EG3 and those 2 first round picks we just picked up.

He would probably be the perfect fit for the Harden/WB dysfunctional axis.
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In reply to AG@RICE • 1:34p, 11/20/20
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AG@RICE said:
If they aren't going to blow it up, I'd try to trade for Myles Turner. Maybe they would take EG3 and those 2 first round picks we just picked up.

He would probably be the perfect fit for the Harden/WB dysfunctional axis.
Eric Gordon doesn't have much value. 3y55mm guaranteed left for a 32yo shooter that hit .369/.317 last year. His Box +/- was -4 last year, which is kind of crazy for a team that won over 60% of their games and was a major component of the team.
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3:20p, 11/20/20
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Eric Gordon is terrible, but I do think there are some teams out there that could be made to believe otherwise.
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6:07p, 11/20/20
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Pistons traded for Dedmon, drafted a center with the pick we traded them, and just signed both Plumlee and Okafor....wtf are they doing??
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8:00p, 11/20/20
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In reply to bearkatag15 • 8:02p, 11/20/20
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I can't believe we got him for that cheap compared to other deals
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8:05p, 11/20/20
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Who is that???
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In reply to Ags #1 • 8:15p, 11/20/20
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Solid big man who had a good year with the Pistons. Look at the replies to the tweet.
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