What happened to harden?

Ryan34 said:

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mAgnoliAg said:

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What happened to harden?

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Strippers, partying, and father time.

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He looks horrendous

Ryan34 said:

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mAgnoliAg said:

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What happened to harden?

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Strippers, partying, and father time.

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But the crunch time playoff disappearances are a thing. Age or not.

West Roxbury said:

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Ryan34 said:

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mAgnoliAg said:

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What happened to harden?

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Strippers, partying, and father time.

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But the crunch time playoff disappearances are a thing. Age or not.

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But he was at least a presence in the playoffs when he played for us. I didn't even know he was ever on the floor tonight

A presence until a second half of a deciding game. We've seen that act before.

As much as I tried not to see it when he was here, this is who James is. Playoff Harden isn't the same guy as regular season Harden.

Amazing how far harden has fallen. He might be the 4th option on the sixers now after embid maxey and harris

I still have a soft spot for Harden and what he did when he was here. Arguably could have had 3 MVP's instead of just the one. Looking back, and we say it all the time, his best shot was being paired with CP3. ******* hammy.

At this stage in his career the book has all but been written. One of the best regular season performers. Folding chair in the playoffs.

CFTXAG10 said:

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I still have a soft spot for Harden and what he did when he was here. Arguably could have had 3 MVP's instead of just the one. Looking back, and we say it all the time, his best shot was being paired with CP3. ******* hammy.

At this stage in his career the book has all but been written. One of the best regular season performers. Folding chair in the playoffs.

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The worst part is that the rumors say James is the one who wanted CP3 gone because he thought he was washed. James looks much more washed than CP3 now. I doubt we win it all in 2020 if CP3 is back with us but it would have been fun to find out.

WES2006AG said:

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CFTXAG10 said:

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I still have a soft spot for Harden and what he did when he was here. Arguably could have had 3 MVP's instead of just the one. Looking back, and we say it all the time, his best shot was being paired with CP3. ******* hammy.

At this stage in his career the book has all but been written. One of the best regular season performers. Folding chair in the playoffs.

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The worst part is that the rumors say James is the one who wanted CP3 gone because he thought he was washed. James looks much more washed than CP3 now. I doubt we win it all in 2020 if CP3 is back with us but it would have been fun to find out.

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Yepp. Another knock against Harden. I vividly remember the "I know what we need to do" comment. He likes to find scapegoats for his failures in the postseason.

I love Harden when he was with the Rockets but he can EAD. He acted like a bish when he wanted out so now he gets to enjoy all the hate from the media and the fans for playing like crap. Reap what you sow.

RealTalk said:

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I love Harden when he was with the Rockets but he can EAD. He acted like a bish when he wanted out so now he gets to enjoy all the hate from the media and the fans for playing like crap. Reap what you sow.

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Harden was dead to me the moment he decided to handle his exit the way he did. The Rockets did everything they could to bring in guys James wanted to play with and he consistently flamed out with his chosen partners. His immaturity and inability to take responsibility for his playoff shortcomings are an indicator of who he really is and that is not a winner.

WES2006AG said:

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RealTalk said:

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I love Harden when he was with the Rockets but he can EAD. He acted like a bish when he wanted out so now he gets to enjoy all the hate from the media and the fans for playing like crap. Reap what you sow.

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Harden was dead to me the moment he decided to handle his exit the way he did. The Rockets did everything they could to bring in guys James wanted to play with and he consistently flamed out with his chosen partners. His immaturity and inability to take responsibility for his playoff shortcomings are an indicator of who he really is and that is not a winner.

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Yep, all of this.

Harden - all Robin, no Batman.

James Harden is a Toad

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It's hard to know where to start with Harden, except that it's pretty obvious that when the chips are really down, this dude doesn't want any part of it, other than maybe to eat them.

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Made the top 4

3rd pick

**** that

Easy pick with the clear top 3 whoever is left

AgBrother said:

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Easy pick with the clear top 3 whoever is left

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Unless it's Banchero…then you take Ivey

AgBrother said:

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Easy pick with the clear top 3 whoever is left

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Lot of people have Ivey up there ahead of even Chet.

This years draft is a big toss up at the top.

I don't love the little bit of game I've seen from Chet. However, I'd be a bad 7th grade C team talent evaluator so take that for what it's worth.

So I guess we get banchero

Just gonna toss this out there - Michael Jordan was taken with the third pick.

Did anyone else just get a chill?

Banchero is a good player. He is probably the most complete player in the draft.

In my opinion, its not clear which player will be the best pro. Holmgreen, Smith, Banchero and Ivey all have big questions marks they need to answer in order to be big time players.

There are other players in the middle of this draft that also have the potential to be the best player. Malthurin, Sochan, Davis and Griffin all have really great potential. I personally really really like Mark Williams and I hope he slips to us at 17. He is basically DeAndre Ayton without the foolish belief that he should shoot. I doubt he makes it past Charlotte though.

Don't forget about Shaedon Sharp.

Ryan34 said:

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Don't forget about Shaedon Sharp.

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He looks the part in the workout vids. There isn't any tape of him against a real opponent, so he is really hard to evaluate. He is definitely a great athlete with potential, but I can't imagine he would be good at team basketball for many years. That being said, if he does have the right mindset he absolutely could end up being the best player in the draft.