***Official 2024 - 2025 Dallas Mavericks Season Thread***

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"Champs"


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shack009 said:

He was at his 4th most 3PA/g for his career last year, 2nd most attempts of his career by total volume. 64% of all FGA last year were 3s.

Hes not near the scorer/mid-range guy he used to be, but he's a willing and capable 3 point shooter now. He's evolved his game in the necessary ways a 40 years old should.
CP3 absolutely killed it from top of the arc 3s and the right hand elbow. Those are his two spots.

He can't get into the paint at all anymore and doesn't even try. If he somehow gets past his man, he will still pass it off from the paint because he doesn't have the lift he used to have.

Paul hit 38% of his catch and shoots and 37% on his pull ups. He his 40% of his wide open threes.

He still makes good plays defensively and he can be your MIKE directing it, but he is toast trying to defend 1-on-1. He still runs plays and passes to perfection.

He would be a good fill in guy and a good leader for the team.
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What in the world?

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rsf0626 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

Brandon Williams is a better option than cp3. Do t want cp3 at all.


The mavs need guard depth in the worst way. We should welcome cp3 with open arms


No we really shouldn't. We can sign another guard.
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What does that even mean? Nobody forced him to leave lol.
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Ya losing a coach to a lateral position (yes, I know he's now the "associate Head Coach", fake title for the same job duties he had here) is always either a lack of competence in the FO or off court disgruntlement. Mavs are batting 1.00 in the incompetence department. Winning the lottery with sheer force of luck is the only thing keeping this ship afloat.
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The obvious implication is always money. That'd be my first guess.
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mavsfan4ever said:

rsf0626 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

Brandon Williams is a better option than cp3. Do t want cp3 at all.


The mavs need guard depth in the worst way. We should welcome cp3 with open arms


No we really shouldn't. We can sign another guard.


But who? I don't think CP3 is likely, but it's because we can only offer the minimum, as things stand. He's probably the best option, in my opinion.

It needs to be someone to set up the offense and be a capable dribbler when teams apply pressure.
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Insert the are you serious Clark gif here.

You know what it means.
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mavsfan4ever said:

rsf0626 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

Brandon Williams is a better option than cp3. Do t want cp3 at all.


The mavs need guard depth in the worst way. We should welcome cp3 with open arms


No we really shouldn't. We can sign another guard.


Like who? Unless you're drafting a rookie guard and instantly starting them I dont really see another cost effective option that doesnt give up major draft capital
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shack009 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

rsf0626 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

Brandon Williams is a better option than cp3. Do t want cp3 at all.


The mavs need guard depth in the worst way. We should welcome cp3 with open arms


No we really shouldn't. We can sign another guard.


But who? I don't think CP3 is likely, but it's because we can only offer the minimum, as things stand. He's probably the best option, in my opinion.

It needs to be someone to set up the offense and be a capable dribbler when teams apply pressure.


Agree there isn't much out there. I'd take Davion Mitchell. Schroeder, exum over cp3.

Maybe it's just my hate of cp3 but I would take anyone over him at this point. He's terrible.
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The first tweet was pure sensationalism and capitalizing on an angry fanbase. He's basically walked it back now.
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rsf0626 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

rsf0626 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

Brandon Williams is a better option than cp3. Do t want cp3 at all.


The mavs need guard depth in the worst way. We should welcome cp3 with open arms


No we really shouldn't. We can sign another guard.


Like who? Unless you're drafting a rookie guard and instantly starting them I dont really see another cost effective option that doesnt give up major draft capital
Good point. Draft Dylan Harper.
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Agree there isn't much out there. But I still don't rant cp3.
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mavsfan4ever said:

shack009 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

rsf0626 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

Brandon Williams is a better option than cp3. Do t want cp3 at all.


The mavs need guard depth in the worst way. We should welcome cp3 with open arms


No we really shouldn't. We can sign another guard.


But who? I don't think CP3 is likely, but it's because we can only offer the minimum, as things stand. He's probably the best option, in my opinion.

It needs to be someone to set up the offense and be a capable dribbler when teams apply pressure.


Agree there isn't much out there. I'd take Davion Mitchell. Schroeder, exum over cp3.

Maybe it's just my hate of cp3 but I would take anyone over him at this point. He's terrible.
Sure, but Mitchell and Schroeder are going to get paid way more than Dallas can pay them. You can probably get Exum to come back, but he isnt good enough to run the team as PG1 until KY gets healthy.
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shack009 said:





The first tweet was pure sensationalism and capitalizing on an angry fanbase. He's basically walked it back now.


Agree, that's BS reporting.
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mavsfan4ever said:

shack009 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

rsf0626 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

Brandon Williams is a better option than cp3. Do t want cp3 at all.


The mavs need guard depth in the worst way. We should welcome cp3 with open arms


No we really shouldn't. We can sign another guard.


But who? I don't think CP3 is likely, but it's because we can only offer the minimum, as things stand. He's probably the best option, in my opinion.

It needs to be someone to set up the offense and be a capable dribbler when teams apply pressure.


Agree there isn't much out there. I'd take Davion Mitchell. Schroeder, exum over cp3.

Maybe it's just my hate of cp3 but I would take anyone over him at this point. He's terrible.
Would love those guys but they are more than minimum players. Schroeder is a full MLE guy or more. Exum is fine, and I'd love to bring him back as depth, but neither he nor BWill should be the guys running the first team offense while Kyrie is out.

Someone like Fultz could be interesting, but the shooting is so scary.
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What is cp3 playing for? He was very expensive last year.

We could get Davion for cheaper than what cp3 was playing for last year.

I don't believe Paul is playing for the minimum. And even if he was, I still wouldn't want him. But that's just personal bias.
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Brad Townsend doing his best Chip Brown impression, apparently. The sensationalism worked on me, unfortunately.
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shack009 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

shack009 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

rsf0626 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

Brandon Williams is a better option than cp3. Do t want cp3 at all.


The mavs need guard depth in the worst way. We should welcome cp3 with open arms


No we really shouldn't. We can sign another guard.


But who? I don't think CP3 is likely, but it's because we can only offer the minimum, as things stand. He's probably the best option, in my opinion.

It needs to be someone to set up the offense and be a capable dribbler when teams apply pressure.


Agree there isn't much out there. I'd take Davion Mitchell. Schroeder, exum over cp3.

Maybe it's just my hate of cp3 but I would take anyone over him at this point. He's terrible.
Would love those guys but they are more than minimum players. Schroeder is a full MLE guy or more. Exum is fine, and I'd love to bring him back as depth, but neither he nor BWill should be the guys running the first team offense while Kyrie is out.

Someone like Fultz could be interesting, but the shooting is so scary.


If we are only working with rhe minimum, then I agree. I was thinking we'd have a little more to play with.

Agree with fultz.
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mavsfan4ever said:

What is cp3 playing for? He was very expensive last year.

We could get Davion for cheaper than what cp3 was playing for last year.

I don't believe Paul is playing for the minimum. And even if he was, I still wouldn't want him. But that's just personal bias.
He was at $10 million, but I don't think anybody can or will want to give him that this year. Pretty sure he's friends with AD and he could see the Mavs as his best shot at a title. He'd have a better shot with the Mavs than with LAL or LAC.

He also will get 30 minutes a game running the first team until Kyrie gets back. Where else is he doing that on a team trying to win?
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mavsfan4ever said:

shack009 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

shack009 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

rsf0626 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

Brandon Williams is a better option than cp3. Do t want cp3 at all.


The mavs need guard depth in the worst way. We should welcome cp3 with open arms


No we really shouldn't. We can sign another guard.


But who? I don't think CP3 is likely, but it's because we can only offer the minimum, as things stand. He's probably the best option, in my opinion.

It needs to be someone to set up the offense and be a capable dribbler when teams apply pressure.


Agree there isn't much out there. I'd take Davion Mitchell. Schroeder, exum over cp3.

Maybe it's just my hate of cp3 but I would take anyone over him at this point. He's terrible.
Would love those guys but they are more than minimum players. Schroeder is a full MLE guy or more. Exum is fine, and I'd love to bring him back as depth, but neither he nor BWill should be the guys running the first team offense while Kyrie is out.

Someone like Fultz could be interesting, but the shooting is so scary.


If we are only working with rhe minimum, then I agree. I was thinking we'd have a little more to play with.

Agree with fultz.
Once we sign Flagg we will be in the 2nd apron, so we can only sign players to minimum deals. I think that's the rule, but maybe somebody else can correct me.
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mavsfan4ever said:

What is cp3 playing for? He was very expensive last year.

We could get Davion for cheaper than what cp3 was playing for last year.

I don't believe Paul is playing for the minimum. And even if he was, I still wouldn't want him. But that's just personal bias.
Mitchell is a RFA. Davion Mitchell put up 10/5 on 50/45 shooting with good defense to end the season. He's gonna get more than Paul.

Spurs gave Paul 10M and he has now made $400M for his career in just NBA wages, not including endorsements like Nike or State Farm.

Paul could sign with Dallas for the minimum because they are the only contending team that could guarantee a starting job and PT for a significant part of the season. He said repeatedly that he cares most about playing time last year.

Mitchell is not remotely a possibility. Miami will keep him because they need the POA defender that can shoot off ball next to Herro.
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Guitarsoup said:

rsf0626 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

rsf0626 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

Brandon Williams is a better option than cp3. Do t want cp3 at all.


The mavs need guard depth in the worst way. We should welcome cp3 with open arms


No we really shouldn't. We can sign another guard.


Like who? Unless you're drafting a rookie guard and instantly starting them I dont really see another cost effective option that doesnt give up major draft capital
Good point. Draft Dylan Harper.


Castle, fox, Harper and 2 firsts for cooper Flagg?
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shack009 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

shack009 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

shack009 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

rsf0626 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

Brandon Williams is a better option than cp3. Do t want cp3 at all.


The mavs need guard depth in the worst way. We should welcome cp3 with open arms


No we really shouldn't. We can sign another guard.


But who? I don't think CP3 is likely, but it's because we can only offer the minimum, as things stand. He's probably the best option, in my opinion.

It needs to be someone to set up the offense and be a capable dribbler when teams apply pressure.


Agree there isn't much out there. I'd take Davion Mitchell. Schroeder, exum over cp3.

Maybe it's just my hate of cp3 but I would take anyone over him at this point. He's terrible.
Would love those guys but they are more than minimum players. Schroeder is a full MLE guy or more. Exum is fine, and I'd love to bring him back as depth, but neither he nor BWill should be the guys running the first team offense while Kyrie is out.

Someone like Fultz could be interesting, but the shooting is so scary.


If we are only working with rhe minimum, then I agree. I was thinking we'd have a little more to play with.

Agree with fultz.
Once we sign Flagg we will be in the 2nd apron, so we can only sign players to minimum deals. I think that's the rule, but maybe somebody else can correct me.
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Guitarsoup said:

mavsfan4ever said:

shack009 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

rsf0626 said:

mavsfan4ever said:

Brandon Williams is a better option than cp3. Do t want cp3 at all.


The mavs need guard depth in the worst way. We should welcome cp3 with open arms


No we really shouldn't. We can sign another guard.


But who? I don't think CP3 is likely, but it's because we can only offer the minimum, as things stand. He's probably the best option, in my opinion.

It needs to be someone to set up the offense and be a capable dribbler when teams apply pressure.


Agree there isn't much out there. I'd take Davion Mitchell. Schroeder, exum over cp3.

Maybe it's just my hate of cp3 but I would take anyone over him at this point. He's terrible.
Sure, but Mitchell and Schroeder are going to get paid way more than Dallas can pay them. You can probably get Exum to come back, but he isnt good enough to run the team as PG1 until KY gets healthy.
Disagree. I think Exum at this point is more capable and fits the defensive scheme way better than CP. I actually think Exum is a guy Dallas can't afford because he played above his contract and someone (like Houston) will be willing to pay him.
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I like what Exum has done for us, but he's been injured a lot and he isn't quite the dribbler under pressure that you'd like for a lead guard. I'd love to have him back on the minimum as depth.

Any team that expects things from him above what you expect from a minimum player is probably going to be disappointed, in my opinion.
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shack009 said:

I like what Exum has done for us, but he's been injured a lot and he isn't quite the dribbler under pressure that you'd like for a lead guard. I'd love to have him back on the minimum as depth.

Any team that expects things from him above what you expect from a minimum player is probably going to be disappointed, in my opinion.
agreed, I think Exum is a very hybrid guard at this point...and not in a good way. he's morphed into a weird 1/2/3 type guard and I don't know how much of a floor general he is at this point in his career
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Another scenario I don't think we've talked about much is the Mavs getting back in to the draft and taking someone like Walter Clayton, Nolan Traore, or Tyrese Proctor.
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I know he's redundant now but still gonna miss his energy and attitude.
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Guarantee we'll miss the depth he provides when injuries strike, but this is smart business. We'll lose him for nothing next year if we don't move him soon.
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Don't let Kai Jones sign anywhere else.
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Portland just acquired Jrue for Anfernee Simons. Mavs have been linked with Jrue and surely Portland isn't keeping him.

Really hope Nico doesn't shoot his wad thinking that Jrue is the player he was 2+ years ago. The contract is filthy too.
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shack009 said:

Portland just acquired Jrue for Anfernee Simons. Mavs have been linked with Jrue and surely Portland isn't keeping him.

Really hope Nico doesn't shoot his wad thinking that Jrue is the player he was 2+ years ago. The contract is filthy too.


i would want nothing to do with Jrue at 38yo with 37M guaranteed.

I think they are going to keep him to be a later for the young guys
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