The Astros 2013 improbable, inconceivable, unbelievable march to the World Series

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Plus, any of those SS's could be a 3rd basemen. Some scouts think that Correa is ultimately bound for 3rd base in the long run even though it's too early to tell.
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And carter still sucks
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Carlos Correa yesterday

4 of 7, 2B, HR, 5 RBIs, SB

I was listening to the game on and off and the announcer describes him as "the speedy Correa" several times. This kid is exciting.
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the astros (1-4) may want to get a win today. The first west coast roadtrip is up next: at Seattle, Oakland, and LAA.

for comparison purposes:

the 2011 (106-loss) astros won 10 games in April

the 2012 (107-loss) astros won 9 games in April
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I never knew Coco Crisp was such a power hitter
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At least we are gonna get Carlos Rodon

[This message has been edited by koolaid (edited 4/7/2013 2:36p).]
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Why the hell is Clutch (Rockets' mascot) at the game? I don't want the Astros' bad mojo to rub off on the Rockets.
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Chris Carter's career average is about to drop below .200
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Oh, and the Astros have struck out 10 times through 6 innings today.
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2016 Starting Rotation

#1 Carlos Rodon
#2 Mark Appel
#3 Stud Free Agent
#4 Lance McCullers
#5 Folty/Tropeano

Can't get here soon enough

[This message has been edited by koolaid (edited 4/7/2013 3:28p).]
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the A's have hit 7 HR's in the series. Astros on their way to 1-5
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quote:
2016 Starting Rotation

#1 Carlos Rodon
#2 Mark Appel
#3 Stud Free Agent
#4 Lance McCullers
#5 Folty/Tropeano

Can't get here soon enough

[This message has been edited by koolaid (edited 4/7/2013 3:28p).]


I read somewhere that McCullers is projecting as a RP
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Mlbtraderumors:
"The Blue Jays have announced they have claimed right-hander Edgar Gonzalez off waivers from the Astros. Gonzalez was designated for assignment by the Astros on Friday. "
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irish pete ag06
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McCullers is a starter all the way. Potential #1 starter.
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Could the Astros be in contention for the worst MLB record ever? Hello 1962 Mets!
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Baseball tonight guys just said 420 to right center field in San fran is the furthest you can hit a ball and not get a home run in the mlb

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Baseball tonight guys just said 420 to right center field in San fran is the furthest you can hit a ball and not get a home run in the mlb

[This message has been edited by mAgnoliAg (edited 4/7/2013 6:58p).]

They just refuse to give the Astros credit for anything
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Why does our spring training always last until August?
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Who else did we get for Jed Lowrie in that trade? Because Carter is absolutely terrible so far.
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rangers fan here. I gotta say, for all the short comings, I still love to watch altuve play.
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Who else did we get for Jed Lowrie in that trade? Because Carter is absolutely terrible so far.


Peacock and minor leage catcher Max Stassi (on the DL)
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Mlbtraderumors:

"Rangers outfielder Julio Borbon describes his future as "a real question mark," Evan Grant of DallasNews.com reports. Texas appears likely to trade Borbon or designate him for assignment, when they add starter Nick Tepesch to their active roster on Tuesday. If the Rangers designate Borbon for assignment, the Astros might claim him, Grant says. Borbon hit .304/.349/.433 for Triple-A Round Rock in 2012"

Also says that we are one of three teams supposedly interested in Aaron Harang, who's was DFAd by the Rockies.
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The only way it makes sense to me to add someone like Harang is if the Astros are finally willing to move Norris to the bullpen and see what he can do as a setup/closer type.

You certainly don't add an old veteran to take innings away from Harrell/Humber/Peacock.
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Borbon would be a good move for us, but who does he replace? Barnes hasn't even gotten much of a chance and has looked decent. Do we send JD back down? Ankiel gone?
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The only way it makes sense to me to add someone like Harang is if the Astros are finally willing to move Norris to the bullpen and see what he can do as a setup/closer type.

You certainly don't add an old veteran to take innings away from Harrell/Humber/Peacock.


I really believe they're going to trade Norris before the deadline, maybe even in the next month. Moving him to the bullpen would be terrible for his trade value.

Getting a guy like Harang could be beneficial once the deadline approaches. The Dodgers are paying $4.5 million of his $7 million salary, so he may be attractive to some teams looking for a guy that can pitch out of the back of the rotation down the stretch. If nothing else, he bridges the gap until we can get some of the younger guys to the show.

Pena and Ankiel are well on their way to being cut, wallace has been terrible, and our bullpen is a disaster. IMO, we have plenty of roster flexibility to make some moves.
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While I agree that Pena and Ankiel have been god awful I don't think they get cut. Lunhow and Porter are big fans of their veteran leadership. If the rest of the lineup was tearing the cover off the ball and they were sucking it would be different but these guys aren't what's hindering the team. Plus as veterans they have earned a little bit of a right to dig themselves out of the slump.
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So they earned the right for 3 year slumps?
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This remark makes no sense at all. You’re not going to cut someone for what they did the past three years.

All I’m saying is that they’re bad players on a bad team that bring a little veteran experience. If it wasn't for them being veterans they probably wouldn't have been brought in here in the first place.

Lunhow isn't dumb enough to bring those guys in thinking they’re going to bolster the lineup.
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He is also not dumb enough to let some veterans with track records of being below the mendoza line stay in the lineup JUST for leadership, when players like Bud, Barnes, Cedeno, Maxwell, Humber, and Bedard are not far behind in age and can also provide leadership.
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I remember hearing them say that the reason they brought in Pena was for his experience with playing on a young team and they were asking him to take the reigns as the veteran.
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He is also not dumb enough to let some veterans with track records of being below the mendoza line stay in the lineup JUST for leadership


Your missing the point...He's not going to cut them based on their track records. No GM in the history of any sport has cut a player based on what they've done the past couple years.

Give them some time to come out of it and if they dont and you see you have players behind them then make a move.

Plus I'd like to see them come out of it and show some value and see Lunhow try and flip them.
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IMO, neither Pena nor Ankiel will be on this team in September. They'll both either be traded or cut. At some point this season, it's all going to be about the young guys. That time comes sooner if we're sitting here in a month with two black holes in the lineup where Pena and Ankiel are penciled in. Sure, you don't make that move in March or April, but it has to be a serious consideration in May.

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Agree 100%. If Pena and Ankiel are playing like this come May, get rid of them. I'm also very upset that we let Frieman go so we can have room for a washed up player like Pena at 1B/DH. That is a move that Drayton McLane would have made...
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Did we do it wrong?

This lineup could exist today.. none of the moves we made would have had any effect on anyone listed below. All of the proceeds from the guys we traded are either in the minors or gone..

Michael Bourn cf
Jose altuve 2b
Lance berkman DH
hunter pence RF
Jed lowrie SS
Brett Wallace 1B
Jason Castro C
Justin ruggiano LF
Matt dominguez 3B

We would not have singleton, paredes, Santana, carter, peacock or cosart. Villar would still be here from the roy o trade.

How many wins is that lineup worth.. with Norris, Harrell, wandy, humber, and bedard pitching and a still terrible bullpen.
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