Kinsler backtracks and says it was taken out of context so the writer posts the recording:

https://soundcloud.com/rpike623/ian-on-jd-rangers

Just an example of his immaturity and not using his head. We saw a million examples of that as a player here, so it's no surprise to see the writer expose him. I think many of Kinlser's issues boil down to the fact that he's just not the sharpest tack in the box.

If he has hot opinions about Daniels, that's fine. Might not be that professional to air them to the media, but if he wants to air them, fine too. But if you are going to air them, at least man up and either stand behind them or apologize for them. To air your hot opinion and then blame it on the writer is pansy-ass and sleazy.

Funny that Kinsler ends up looking like the sleazeball here. I don't know Daniels and maybe he's a sleazeball too, but Kinsler just publicly confirmed himself as one.

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Yeah, I'm guessing everything he said about Daniels is true.

The irony that Kinz complains about having to watch what he says to JD and how JD will bend them to his advantage... then projects that same characterization onto a reporter.

The irony is in the audio. The reporter clearly reported what Kinz said, AND if anything... went soft on how he reported it.

I don't know if JD is as Kinz characterizes... but I can see how JD is likely believed to be as Kinz projects, and that it would be without merit.

Did JD run Nolan out of town? Likely.

When Kinz said everyone except Nolan got full of themselves after the 2010 WS appearance... did he mean himself included?!

- CJ left with the big payday
- Hamilton left with the big payday.
- Kinz sure got a big payday.

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The irony is in the audio. The reporter clearly reported what Kinz said, AND if anything... went soft on how he reported it.

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Agree 100%. The reporter mentioned the sleazeball aspect, but if possible, it's even worse in context. Kinsler spends plenty of time in the audio elaborating on his sleazeball comment.

And yes, I can see how the perception of Daniels could potentially be negative, and possibly unfairly negative. That said, the team approached Kinsler about a move to 1st to make room for Profar, but when Kinsler objectd, they abided by what Kinsler wanted. The fact he brought that up as a point to gripe about just highlights the titay baby that he is. THEY DID WHAT YOU WANTED, YOU DOLT!

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Rangers fans should hope what Kinsler said about JD was true because once you remove Kinsler's pretty obvious bias what you're left with in JD is a good businessman and as good a baseball mind as there is.

Not that I blame Kinsler for being pissy he was dealt to one of the worst cities in the country but hey, at least it's a well run franchise that typically contends.

It could have been a lot worse.

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Yeah, I'm guessing everything he said about Daniels is true.

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Why?

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Not that I blame Kinsler for being pissy he was dealt to one of the worst cities in the country but hey, at least it's a well run franchise that typically contends.

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There are MANY worse options he could have been dealt to. What if they sent him to KC, Miami, Houston or Philly. Any of those would be worse than Detroit. It isn't like he's going to move into the blighted part of town anyways. He'll live in a golf course or gated marina community.

IMO Detroit is worse than all of those save Philly but that's just me.

You're right, however, that he won't be living in an area we saw in the original RoboCop.

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There are MANY worse options he could have been dealt to. What if they sent him to KC, Miami, Houston or Philly. Any of those would be worse than Detroit. It isn't like he's going to move into the blighted part of town anyways. He'll live in a golf course or gated marina community.

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This. I laugh at the people who think getting traded to Detroit, when you're worth millions and millions, is some sort of crippling twist of fate. I'll gladly switch incomes/cities with Ian if that can be arranged.

He spends a few years there in a gated community in the 'burbs, retires, and moves to wherever the hell he wants to. Doesn't sound too bad.

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What if they sent him to KC, Miami, Houston or Philly

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You shut your hore mouth

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Because there were rumblings about Daniels well before he ever said anything. Mainly all the Nolan stuff.

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Because there were rumblings about Daniels well before he ever said anything. Mainly all the Nolan stuff.

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True, but a lot of that narrative was driven by Nolan's friends in the press, with Jackie Moore's little tantrum giving them a good forum. JD may or may not be a sleazeball, but I think you don't know unless you work there. I would say this--it seems to me the player treatment under his regime has been pretty straightforward. The club seems to, by and large, do the right thing with players, and that doesn't lend to a sleazeball conclusion. As someone noted above, Kinsler was asked to move to first because it was the best thing for the team. He refused, and based on what he's said, he's the one who didn't handle it very well. Yeah, at the end of the day he got traded, but that doesn't appear to be a "get even" move by management. It was instead what appears to be a really good baseball move.

As far as Daniels vs. Nolan goes, the buck has to stop with someone when it comes to the personnel on the field. Ownership decided that was Daniels. I do think Daniels and Nolan had differences in philosophy, and if the guys writing the checks decided they want to put it in Daniels hands, I can see where Nolan decided he didn't have as useful of a place any more. I don't see why that makes Daniels a sleazeball.

Daniels definitely seems to take a practical approach to managing the personnel. I haven't seen what I'd consider rash decisions, haven't seen decisions that appeared to punish players, he's always supported his players and his coaches publicly, etc. It seems to me that they're constantly assessing ways to upgrade holes on the team, and he's taken a reasonable approach to doing so.

The Kinsler trade made perfect on-the-field sense. They needed room for Profar at 2B and need to upgrade their production from 1B. Kinsler either moving to 1B or being traded were the two most logical choices there were. He wasn't open to A, so they went with B. From my view, given Kinsler's propensity to suck ass on the road and be a marginal value anywhere but 2B, I think B was the preferable choice. And unlike Jerry Jones, Daniels didn't let nastolgia and personal feelings get in the way of making the right business move.

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Kinsler is old, expensive, and below average player. And apparently a malcontent.

And JD traded for him? And got something in return?

Throw Daniels a parade and give him a raise. This is a results based business, not a tea party.

JD is awesome at making pure business decisions. He seems to have a built in knack for removing all emotion from trades and not re-signing players.

I love that about him. Has he gotten fleeced on some trades ? Sure, name a GM that hasn't.

At the end of the day, Kinsler is being a little B, JD made a great move getting him gone.

I'm a little shocked at the vitriol for Kinsler on this board. He wanted to be here and was traded. I think that he is justified in being upset about it. I'm ok with the decision to trade him, but he's played well enough for long enough to earn a pass for his comments. It's not like he signed with our division rival after being offered a contract and then made these comments.

I wouldn't call this vitriol. No one is asking for his head. I do give him a slight pass, but it doesn't mean he isn't stupid for letting it get published. The reporter even said (on buster Olney's podcast a few days ago) he went to Ian first and said something along the lines of, "hey man. This story is gonna be a little rough. You sure I can push this?" Ian just shrugged it off and didn't give it 2 thoughts.

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I'm a little shocked at the vitriol for Kinsler on this board. He wanted to be here and was traded. I think that he is justified in being upset about it. I'm ok with the decision to trade him, but he's played well enough for long enough to earn a pass for his comments. It's not like he signed with our division rival after being offered a contract and then made these comments.

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He called the GM a sleazeball and said he hoped the team goes 0-162, and you're surprised it drew vitrol in return? You serious, Clark?

Kinsler has always been bagged on here due being a popup king and a braindead baserunner.

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I'm a little shocked at the vitriol for Kinsler on this board.

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The comments in this thread are in response to Ian's lash. Calling him out for who we knew he is as revealed in his comments.

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He wanted to be here and was traded.

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He wanted a big contract. The Rangers gave him one.

The Rangers needed a 1B. He didn't want to play 1B. We got one.

He wanted to play 2B. He gets to.

We needed a leader. He didn't want to be a leader.

He didn't want to "be here" as much as he wanted to play 2B.

It was a business and personnel decision. It was a good move for the Rangers and a good move for Kinsler. He should have been happy. He should especially be happy that he no longer plays for a "sleazeball," will no longer need to fear his words will be used against him, and he will no longer feel icky after talking with the GM.

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I think that he is justified in being upset about it. I'm ok with the decision to trade him, but he's played well enough for long enough to earn a pass for his comments. It's not like he signed with our division rival after being offered a contract and then made these comments.

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Why is he justified? In that one article he illustrated exactly what many on here have complained about him (myself excluded). I've liked Kinz. I defended him through many of the popups and pick-offs... until he showed in 2013 that he really didn't want to be here.

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He's a super competitive and fiery guy, one of the most that I've in the past decade in baseball. I'd expect him to say he wants the Rangers, and everyone else to lose. I don't really feel upset at his comments, his passion was both visible and a great asset for years in Texas.

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In what world?

He doesn't always run hard, he's got terrible technique which obviously hinders his performance whether he's batting or fielding, he does all sorts of things half-assedly/wrong.

He's a mental midget. Always has been, always will be.

That he can't keep his dumb thoughts to himself, whether its in the media (and complains when the media puts them in print) or getting himself thrown out of games, none of it means he's study in beneficial "passion."

To be fair, there are people up and down this thread that have defended him in the past that have now flipped, but geeze, at this point, Ian's clearly one of those 10 million dollar talent, 10 cent brains.

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IMO Detroit is worse than all of those save Philly but that's just me.

You're right, however, that he won't be living in an area we saw in the original RoboCop.

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We'll never get agreement on what city is the "best" or the "worst"

Besides, he'll have to be in Detroit for about what, 100 days a year? He'll probably spend most of the time schmoozing at a Grosse Point yacht club or schmoozing in the Detroit Tigers clubhouse. That doesn't sound so bad, to me.

Go **** yourself

whaaaAAAAA?!

I wish Kinsler the best but I like our infield much better this year. If Profar gets it going then it will really be something.