I would have thought our resident RedSox fans would have started the thread, but allow me.

Is there anyone who thinks this is a good contract?!

7yr / $217M

That's $31M/year.

At 30, he has 2-3 more "prime years" left... then it is 4-5 years of OMG commitment.

He is certainly a regular season Ace. He has a career 3.09 ERA with 1441.2 IP and a 65% winning percentage with 104 Ws and 56Ls.

Playoffs - He has 63.1 IP with a 5.12 ERA with 3 different teams.

That puts the BoSox at $189.5M committed in 2016 for 14 players.

Hitters:
LF: HanRam (31)
RF: Castillo (28)
CF: Chris Young (32)
2B: Pedroia (32) - Signed through 2021
3B: Sandoval (29) - Signed through 2019+Opt2020
C: Hanigan (35)
DH: Ortiz (40)


Pitchers:
SP: Price (30)
SP: Porcello (26) - 4.92\1.36 in 2015
SP: Buchholz (31) - 3.26\1.21 in 2015
SP: Miley (29) - 4.46\1.37 in 2015

RP: Kimbrel (27)
RP: Uehara (40)

Something tells me we'll hear lots from the BoSox fans about injury excuses for why they do poorly during the season. With the way that team is put together, it will be a management issue, not an injury issue.

Better win in 2016, because there is $158M tied up for 2017... for 10 players and buyouts of 2 more. The buyouts include a $10M option on David Ortiz and a $13.5M option for Buchholz.

Red Sox were horrible and they needed a savior. They overpaid to make it happen.

Didn't David Ortiz announce this was his last season so the buyout is null and void?

That is an insane contract. I don't know if there is a player in mlb actually worth $30mill a year

Grienke is about to pull in the same type of contract and he's 32. It's the business of baseball now.

I saw he's looking for 6 years, 30 M.

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I saw he's looking for 6 years, 30 M.

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That's a ton, as well.

Rangers' fantasy...

Beltre retires after 2016 and is replaced by Gallo. That'd reduce Beltre's $18M in 2016 to $600K for Gallo in 2017.
Trade Andrus and pick up $5M of his contract, reduces $10M per. Replace him with Profar @ $600K.

Sign Greinke for $30M.

Now your rotation is:
Hamels
Greinke
Darvish
Perez
Holland.

Well I guess we've got another Ranger's thread.

And Price will be Kershaw 2.0. Huge contract and Cy Young caliber pitcher in regular season then sheets the bed come October.

Price & Big Papi hate each other. I'm sure there won't be any locker room issues.

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Grienke is about to pull in the same type of contract and he's 32. It's the business of baseball now.

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Bump. Grienke signs for $34+ mil/yr over 6 years.

as I've said before...general managers are some of the dumbest people in the world.

in Arizona's case they are buying way too high on Grienke. His career ERA is 3.35

both Price and Grienke are joining their 4th teams/organizations --- lots of stickers on their luggage (to quote Milo) for such 'great' pitchers.

reminiscent of ol' Cliff Lee...everybody wants him, but then can't wait to get rid of him once they have him

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Pretty salty contract for a guy that needs a diaper in October.

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both Price and Grienke are joining their 4th teams/organizations --- lots of stickers on their luggage (to quote Milo) for such 'great' pitchers.

reminiscent of ol' Cliff Lee...everybody wants him, but then can't wait to get rid of him once they have him

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I think that's a pretty backwards way of viewing things.

Price, Grienke and Lee have been with a # of organizations because of the fact that they ARE considered great pitchers, meaning that their price tag is often too high for all but a handful of teams once free agency hits.

It's not like these guys are getting dumped by contenders or teams on the fringe in the middle of long-term contracts.

None of the teams these pitchers have left "couldn't wait to get rid of them" -- they all would have loved to keep them but were unable to due to the price tag.

Without Cliff Lee, there is no 2010 AL title for the Texas Rangers. His stay here, although brief, was extremely impactful.

He was valuable to the Mariners as an asset in a trade, and valuable to the Rangers to win a league championship. Now they decided not to spend upwards of $150 million on him afterward because it was a huge price tag for a soon-to-be aging pitcher, but it had nothing to do with he value he brought to the organization at the time.

To mhayden's point, the stud pitchers are collecting more stops because of (1) their trade value on teams that find themselves out of contention and looking at a rebuild (or partial rebuild) is enormous and (2) the huge $$$$'s they command. The pitcher may be fantastic, but the cost gets tough to justify if the rest of the roster doesn't have it's **** together.

They'll regret that one in a couple years. But that's baseball these days.

Name one team who "wanted to get rid of " Lee, Greinke, or Price.

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Name one team who "wanted to get rid of " Lee, Greinke, or Price.

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All the teams that did.

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Name one team who "wanted to get rid of " Lee, Greinke, or Price.

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All the teams that did.

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"Wanted to get rid of" != couldn't afford to sign

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both Price and Grienke are joining their 4th teams/organizations --- lots of stickers on their luggage (to quote Milo) for such 'great' pitchers.

reminiscent of ol' Cliff Lee...everybody wants him, but then can't wait to get rid of him once they have him

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so Randy Johnson, Greg Maddux and Rodger Clemens all sucked because they were on a lot of teams, right?

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Name one team who "wanted to get rid of " Lee, Greinke, or Price.

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All the teams that did.

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The Rangers didn't want to get rid of him and jumped through every hoop they felt would get Cliff Lee TO Texas... and KEEP him in Texas. At the end, he chose what was best for him and there was nothing Texas did that would indicate they didn't want him... or wouldn't do what was necessary to get him.

Cliff Lee is shopping for suitors for 2016... based on where he has been the past couple years (TJ surgery, etc)... we'll see just how "wanting to get rid of Lee" the market demonstrates.

This is dumb. There's 29 clubs that would love to have both of those guys. There's probably 30 clubs that want Cliff Lee too if he was willing to work with them regarding his injuries over the last 18 months.

A lot of 30 something year olds get paid too much in the final few years of their contracts. The Rangers have, what, 5 years paying Shin Soo-Choo at least $20 million a year? Prince Fielder is going to make $24 million for the next 5 years?! (Yes, the Rangers did very good to get some help from Detroit on Fielder.)

But this is just the state of baseball these days. You have to pay to get these guys. A team has to just ask itself does the guy warrant the money in the first few years and can they afford to overpay him in the latter years?

As far as Boston, they got a premier starter for one of the worst rotations in baseball and have deep pockets.

I think the more egregious contract is they're going to be paying Rick Porcello over $20 million a year for the next 4 seasons.

(And that Porcello contract ought to put a little context on a guy like Price getting $30 million a year.)

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As far as Boston, they got a premier starter for one of the worst rotations in baseball and have deep pockets.

I think the more egregious contract is they're going to be paying Rick Porcello over $20 million a year for the next 4 seasons.

(And that Porcello contract ought to put a little context on a guy like Price getting $30 million a year.)

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the best part was that some in the boston media tried to spin that porcello contract. What a terrible, terrible contract for a pitcher of his caliber

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I would have thought our resident RedSox fans would have started the thread, but allow me.

Is there anyone who thinks this is a good contract?!

7yr / $217M

That's $31M/year.

At 30, he has 2-3 more "prime years" left... then it is 4-5 years of OMG commitment.

He is certainly a regular season Ace. He has a career 3.09 ERA with 1441.2 IP and a 65% winning percentage with 104 Ws and 56Ls.

Playoffs - He has 63.1 IP with a 5.12 ERA with 3 different teams.

That puts the BoSox at $189.5M committed in 2016 for 14 players.

Hitters:
LF: HanRam (31)
RF: Castillo (28)
CF: Chris Young (32)
2B: Pedroia (32) - Signed through 2021
3B: Sandoval (29) - Signed through 2019+Opt2020
C: Hanigan (35)
DH: Ortiz (40)


Pitchers:
SP: Price (30)
SP: Porcello (26) - 4.92\1.36 in 2015
SP: Buchholz (31) - 3.26\1.21 in 2015
SP: Miley (29) - 4.46\1.37 in 2015

RP: Kimbrel (27)
RP: Uehara (40)

Something tells me we'll hear lots from the BoSox fans about injury excuses for why they do poorly during the season. With the way that team is put together, it will be a management issue, not an injury issue.

Better win in 2016, because there is $158M tied up for 2017... for 10 players and buyouts of 2 more. The buyouts include a $10M option on David Ortiz and a $13.5M option for Buchholz.

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These contracts having gotten absurd.

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That is an insane contract. I don't know if there is a player in mlb actually worth $30mill a year

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"Said my Dad 30 years ago"!!

Sorry 90, I couldn't help it. That's the first thing I thought of when I read your comment, except my Dad (class of '54) was using $5M. Actually, I think he said the same thing about Andy Messerschmidt. At the time, I was about 12, and didn't give a damn.