Opinions on the Curt Schilling Fiasco?

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rsmi162
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The meme he shared on facebook was definitely insensitive, but did he deserve to be fired for it?
Ag4coal
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No. But a company has the right to do so.
ThunderCougarFalconBird
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I'm surprised a sports network hasn't gone more conservative. FOX captured huge market share being the conservative alternative to CNN.

Why wouldn't FOX Sports stand to do the same by (1) being conservative or (2) letting sports be sports and not try to drive social commentary like the very liberal Disney/ESPN into every aspect of sports? I would be a willing subscriber to that product.
rsmi162
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I would like to see that as well.
Sponge
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Not AFR. Not close even considering offseason.
BQ_90
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If your company warns you to not say stuff like that once and you do it again wouldn't you expect to get fired?

rsmi162
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Should your employer have so much control over your freedom to express your views?
BMX Bandit
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Of course they should.


Though hrs free to express his view still
Agfootball10
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No, but the new Gestapo PC police are everywhere so it is not abnormal.
BMX Bandit
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No, but the new Gestapo PC police are everywhere so it is not abnormal.


Being able to fire your employees for something they say has been "normal" the entire history of America.
BrightAg13
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You pc bro?
TMartin
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Insensitive.....here we go again
GiveEmHellBill
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Should your employer have so much control over your freedom to express your views?
It wasn't the first time for him (or second....or third) to get a warning from his employer.

Don't say stupid s**t on social media and you won't have a problem.
BMX Bandit
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I agree with Schilling on the issue.

"PC" is thinking an employer has to let employees say what they want without consequence
Ag4coal
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I agree with his stance. But what if he had said he hates America and hopes ISIS takes over the world? What would everyone say then? It would be different if he was being jailed for this. But he represents the company, and they felt it hurt their bottom line, so they terminated the contract. Well within their rights, even if their views are idiotic
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The double standard is that he would not have faced consequence if he took the opposite stance...

**** ESPN... That network is a POS

We need an alternative for live broadcasts
BMX Bandit
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The double standard is that he would not have faced consequence if he took the opposite stance...

**** ESPN... That network is a POS

We need an alternative for live broadcasts



ESPN being liberal has zero effect on my enjoyment of games.
FTAggies
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Know the company you work for, pretty simple. Interesting to remember that an Anchor said f**** Jesus and was suspended, and yet this is more offensive, just an example of where their priorities are and which group makes more noise.
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Should your employer have so much control over your freedom to express your views?


When your employer gives you a platform to express your views then yes. Particularly when said views put advertising dollars at risk. ESPN isn't taking a moral stand, thier keeping thier sponsors from leaving.

So yes.
Macarthur
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Should your employer have so much control over your freedom to express your views?


When your employer gives you a platform to express your views then yes. Particularly when said views put advertising dollars at risk. ESPN isn't taking a moral stand, thier keeping thier sponsors from leaving.

So yes.
And everyone needs to remember, this is multiple offenses for him. They told him numerous times to keep his personal views to himself. He didn't and they canned him. He strikes me as a huge ahole
BostonAg74
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I think the termination had less to do with what he said than it did with the fact that he's popped off before about politics and social issues and had been warned more than once not to do it again. If it had been his first offense, he probably would have survived with a warning.

Edit: Macarthur got his post in just ahead of me, and he's right. From what I heard, he's also right about Schilling being a huge a-hole. A friend of mine is an architect who did work for some of the Red Sox players, and he said that Schilling was somewhat of a social misfit on the team, and his wife looked down her nose at virtually all the other players' wives and that did not go over well either. And the State of Rhode Island is on the hook for $100 million in loan guarantees for his bankrupt video game company, so they don't like him much there either.
Citizen Reign
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Sounds like something a 23-year-old socialite with would do. The only difference is the socialite would be for peeing with the gender confused dude/chick.

Facebook and Twit would be better if people didn't think they're irrelevant opinions on controversial topics needed to be broadcast.
zephyr88
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This is all Bruce Jenner's fault for being so "courageous".

We don't need trannies in sports.
We don't need trannies in the women's room.
We don't need trannies in the men's room.
And we don't need politics in sports.
coyote68
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We have a problem. I have a dollar bill in my pocket. If I say it is a hundred dollar bill, will anyone believe me? You can change the 1 dollar bill anyway you want to , but it is still 1 dollar. It is the truth. The truth can cause pain, but the truth is not insensitive.
aggieaviator
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Do you think he would have been fired for retweeting something pro-transvestite?
The leftist shouldn't have a monopoly on free speech.
Tudster
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Do you think he would have been fired for retweeting something pro-transvestite?
The leftist shouldn't have a monopoly on free speech.
Of course not, because pro-trans opinions aren't going to get sponsers blowing up the phones in Bristol.

ESPN might lean left but above all, they are pro money. Straight cash homie.
Ragoo
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Should your employer have so much control over your freedom to express your views?


When your employer gives you a platform to express your views then yes. Particularly when said views put advertising dollars at risk. ESPN isn't taking a moral stand, thier keeping thier sponsors from leaving.

So yes.
like one's own facebook page? Curt Schilling was curt Schilling long before working with espn.
Tudster
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Still yes.
Ragoo
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Should your employer have so much control over your freedom to express your views?


When your employer gives you a platform to express your views then yes. Particularly when said views put advertising dollars at risk. ESPN isn't taking a moral stand, thier keeping thier sponsors from leaving.

So yes.
And everyone needs to remember, this is multiple offenses for him. They told him numerous times to keep his personal views to himself. He didn't and they canned him. He strikes me as a huge ahole
i don't agree with firing someone for voicing an opinion in their own private life. What is wrong with employing people with different view points? Clay travis wrote a great article about this topic.
Ragoo
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Still yes.
that platform wasn't ESPN's, so your argument is completely flawed.
Tudster
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If an employee embarrasses his employer and puts the bottom line at risk, then the employer is well within his right to terminate the employee.
Ragoo
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If an employee embarrasses his employer and puts the bottom line at risk, then the employer is well within his right to terminate the employee.
I don't think the discussion is about rights but more about ethics and double standards.
BMX Bandit
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This was the question asked:

Should your employer have so much control over your freedom to express your views?
BQ_90
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This was the question asked:

Should your employer have so much control over your freedom to express your views?
ESPN hasn't stopped Curt from saying a damn thing. They have stopped paying him.

Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences
Escobars army
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We have a problem. I have a dollar bill in my pocket. If I say it is a hundred dollar bill, will anyone believe me? You can change the 1 dollar bill anyway you want to , but it is still 1 dollar. It is the truth. The truth can cause pain, but the truth is not insensitive.


Truth? Lol, that's an interesting analogy you drew there genius.
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