***** Official Houston Astros 2024-2025 Offseason Thread *****

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I'd like to see the top 3
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Ag_07 said:

I'd like to see the top 3
3. Albies 7/35 M
2. Acuna Jr 8/100
1. Ohtani 10/700 with 680 deferred
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AggiEE said:

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I wonder if the cubs were pissed that he wouldn't entertain extension talks and said **** it, well drag this thing out just cuz….

I think Tucker wins that case…
From the Cubs' reddit:

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Quick pulse check on the thread.



0 or 30?
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Most Likely to Repeat Division Winner


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2. Astros (AL West)
88-73 (3 1/2 games over the Mariners)
If there's ever a year when we only have one team successfully defend its division title, it might be this one, as the gap on this list between the Dodgers and everybody else is rather dramatic. In my personal predictions, the Dodgers are in fact the only team I have repeating as champs. (But we'll get into that over the next few weeks.) The best way to illustrate this is that you can make a legitimate argument that the next-most likely division champion is a team that lost Kyle Tucker and (almost assuredly) Alex Bregman this offseason.

That may say more about the rest of the AL West than it does the Astros, given that the Mariners have been surprisingly idle, the Rangers have serious bullpen questions and, honestly, the most exciting team in this division this winter has been the Athletics. Still, you don't have to squint that hard to see the Astros winning their eighth AL West title in the last nine years. Isaac Paredes and Christian Walker are solid additions at the infield corners, while the rotation has been formidable for years now and promises to be so again in 2025. Also, Yordan Alvarez and Jose Altuve? Still here. The Astros look weaker than they have in a while. But so does the rest of the division.
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Farmer1906 said:

Ag_07 said:

I'd like to see the top 3
3. Albies 7/35 M
2. Acuna Jr 8/100
1. Ohtani 10/700 with 680 deferred


$700 million is considered a bargain because of that BS deferral structure. **** Manfred and the llama he rode in on. Fix this crap.
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Tomorrow is when the international signing period starts. 'stros just have one top prospect in the group.

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2025 International Prospect Rankings and Scouting Reports
4. Kevin Alvarez LF/1B


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Top Baseball International Prospects | MiLB.com
4. Kevin Alvarez OF


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Scouting grades: Hit: 65 | Power: 60 | Run: 50 | Arm: 45 | Field: 50 | Overall: 55

Alvarez was born in Cuba but relocated to the Dominican Republic with his father in December 2021 to begin training for the opening of this year's international signing period. He draws rave reviews from scouts who have seen his game mature and develop considerably over the past few years, as he has continually improved his all-around skill set. Alvarez trains with Javier Rodrguez at La Alianza in Santo Domingo East.

Alvarez boasts a tremendously advanced left-handed swing for his age. While he does have a slight up stroke, it's counterbalanced by his feel for the strike zone and no fear approach in the box. One evaluator gave him a Kyle Tucker comparison for his setup and bat path, particularly since there is still power to come as Alvarez continues to fill out his frame.

While Alvarez has just an average throwing arm, he takes proper routes to the ball while on the grass and maximizes his athleticism with the glove. He fits the mold of a bat-first corner outfielder in the long term.

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Really fun prospect
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Ag_07 said:

Cam Smith is a pretty big dude


Listed at 6'3" 220, IIRC
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Dodgers got any guys they are gonna lose when they sign Sasaki? Need to gobble some of them up.
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Yup, Ohtaini isn't a bargain contract. They still owe $700M. However, if he produces as he did last year for most of the contract with the bat and produces as a pitcher as he did before he had TJ, it will absolutely be a bargain, even at $700M
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I'm worried about Altuve's age 37 season where he is owed a whopping $33M.

Same apprehension is why I am pleased with letting Bregman walk, even though I'll miss him and the team would be better with him in 2025. I don't want to pay him a ton of money past his effectiveness.

Ohtani on the other hand, will be paid $68M per year in each of his age 39-48 seasons. He will put up 0.0 WAR in these seasons as the are after the playing term of his contract. If the Dodgers want to re-sign him for his age 39+ seasons they will need to add to the $68M owed per year with a new contract.
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The next ownership group is gonna love their balance sheet
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By then we won't be paying for Abreu, Montero, and McCullers.

I can stomach Altuve making that as long as we don't get in similar deals to the above players lol.
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iamtheglove said:

Jose Cruuuuuuuuuuuuz said:

W said:

in all seriousness...with regard to the Blue Jays...

has something changed in Toronto in the past 5 years...such that no one wants to play there?

something non-baseball related...i.e. politics, taxes, healthcare, etc..,?
Canada has increased its taxes on the wealthy in the last couple of years. If you play for the Jays, you pay 53% taxes between federal and provincial for every dollar past $220,000 that you make in Canada. A website I looked at says that's about 35% of a guy's salary over the year (81 road games plus 6 weeks of spring training make up the other 65%).

While most states have state income tax - the only ones without it that have an MLB team are Texas and Florida, no team's combination of state/federal taxes is as high as Canada's. California is closest (37% fed + 13.3% state) = 50.3% and New York is second (37% fed + 10.9% state) = 47.9%, but those teams are also offering salaries far beyond anything the Blue Jays will / can.

So if we take George Springer as an example - and this math is not quite right because of the graduated income tax class system - but regardless:

He is making $22.5 million for 2025.
35% of that is about $7.875 million.
He has to pay $4.17m of that in taxes.
If he played in Texas or Florida, he'd "only" pay $2.91m of that.
Even in California, it would be $3.91m which is $254,000 cheaper than Toronto.

So you're paying a lot of taxes to play for a team despite the fact that most guys probably don't live there year-round, and it seems unlikely anyone moves their family up there if they are from the US.





Believe it or not, the State of Washington has no state or local income taxes. Spent 12 years in Seattle and that was the biggest surprise.
Outside of the people who live in Seattle, Washington is a pretty conservative state. And an amazing outdoors place
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tylhair said:

I'm worried about Altuve's age 37 season where he is owed a whopping $33M.

Same apprehension is why I am pleased with letting Bregman walk, even though I'll miss him and the team would be better with him in 2025. I don't want to pay him a ton of money past his effectiveness.

Ohtani on the other hand, will be paid $68M per year in each of his age 39-48 seasons. He will put up 0.0 WAR in these seasons as the are after the playing term of his contract. If the Dodgers want to re-sign him for his age 39+ seasons they will need to add to the $68M owed per year with a new contract.


I thought Altuve 's last two seasons on his contract drop down to around $15-18M?
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I don't like how close we are to a futuristic year like 2030.
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Jose Cruuuuuuuuuuuuz said:

I don't like how close we are to a futuristic year like 2030.


It'll be here before you know it

Feels like 2019 was just yesterday
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tjack16 said:

Jose Cruuuuuuuuuuuuz said:

I don't like how close we are to a futuristic year like 2030.


It'll be here before you know it

Feels like 2019 was just yesterday
My # of Astro games per year will probably go down to zero come 2030 with kids in college.
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Did the Astros offer to Bregman get pulled? Asking for a friend.
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I'm not sure his swing plays well in wrigley
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Cam Smith #20
Brice Matthews #68
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EastCoastAgNc said:




So six years from us was not long enough? But now five years of Boston is good enough?
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The situation changed. He overvalued himself.
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Cam Smith #20
Brice Matthews #68
Time for my cool story moment:

The #8 prospect on here, Zyhir Hope, I taught his freshman year of high school. Even then he was on the varsity baseball team and could hit BOMBS. Everyone raved about his speed and power, and that seems to have carried over to the MiLB. He was such a humble and respectful kid, even as a freshman and if you've ever raised/taught 9th graders it is basically junior high 2.0. That is what made me remember him, was how nice and respectful he was to everyone. I told him if he ever plays for the Astros that he has to send me a jersey
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
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That's what you get for trusting Boras, idiot
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Farmer1906 said:

The situation changed. He overvalued himself.

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Never thought I'd be sticking up for Boras but definitely feels like a situation where the player had way too lofty of an opinion of themselves. While Correa's problem seemed rooted in injury concerns, both guys appear to have conflated their personal success with the astros overall success. I don't think boras would make that mistake. He might make outlandish claims about what a guy is worth to the media, but he has been doing this for 40 years and rarely looks foolish when the dust settles.
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