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What would a Tucker trade if any had looked like if Bregman had accepted the original deal when offered?
Ag_07 said:
And none of these guys GAF about taxes.
That's complete fan myth.
Several players have recently talked about this. It's one of the reasons why people take less to avoid Canada. I believe the deferred money is another way to avoid taxes in Cali.
Unless it's Toronto where it's closer to 50% in taxes
Few things to unpack here
— Bobby Milone (@BobbyMilone29) February 7, 2025
-Seems the Cards did not even want to eat 20m of Arenado's money in the deal
-They seem to be focused on corner prospects (they like Blaze Jordan)
I was told back in Dec the Yankees why" they were not interested" was strictly money (+Stroman) https://t.co/0cd0boDYAp pic.twitter.com/eCDgj2lUWw
170M at 5% tax is 8.5M. If he is really hung up about 28.5M/Yr vs 30M/yr on a 6 year contract, he is arguing over a total of 9M. If he doesn't GAF about taxes in that scenario, he is a moron.Ag_07 said:
And none of these guys GAF about taxes.
That's complete fan myth.
This is my point. The different in $9mm is a wash between the 2 contracts when it comes to Houston vs Chicago.
I think the only place where taxes matter is when it comes to playing in Canada. Their tax laws are absolutely brutal.
"Re-engaged the Dodgers".
When in doubt, see if you can get the dodgers to defer your salary request.
When in doubt, see if you can get the dodgers to defer your salary request.
PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:
This is my point. The different in $9mm is a wash between the 2 contracts when it comes to Houston vs Chicago.
Right. So a $180M contract from Chicago is worth the same to AB as $171M from Houston. So the taxes are a significant factor if he is down to arguing over less than 10M with a team that is not Chicago.
I don't think it's quite so simple regarding taxes. They have to pay based on where games are, not just based on where they live, right? So they don't actually save the full state tax difference by signing with us.
this is why Boras is BorasAggiEE said:EastCoastAgNc said:The #Astros have improved their initial offer to free agent 3B Alex Bregman, two sources tell KPRC 2.
— Ari Alexander (@AriA1exander) February 7, 2025
However, that improved offer is unlikely to get the deal done, according to a source. pic.twitter.com/7YP15V8fKy
Astros competing with themselves for the best offer
"Still not enough"
he gets teams to do stupid stuff like this
there is no reason to offer 6 years...or increase the offer
BQRyno said:
I don't think it's quite so simple regarding taxes. They have to pay based on where games are, not just based on where they live, right? So they don't actually save the full state tax difference by signing with us.
True which is why the AL west is so attractive.....in 2 years 4 of the 5 teams will reside in no state income states
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
MAGA
MAGA
Other than we already did at the start. I really think Dana went max years and a very fair money value based on that. It was the perfect offer to start. Worst case is it makes someone else go higher to sign him. Except the bigger offer didn't happen and now Boras has to play us against ourselves to get more money.
I'm really at the point where I would cut it. The window is really 3 more years. Alex keeps us at a high level for 2-3 years. Paying him to watch him decline for 3 years when the window is closed and the Tucker trade has his replacement in the wings just seems dumb.
I'm on 3/80 in present value $$. Maybe 3/90. I want no opt outs and some deferred. Tue more that's deferred the more the contact value appears to go up but the PV and AAV are lower.
I'm really at the point where I would cut it. The window is really 3 more years. Alex keeps us at a high level for 2-3 years. Paying him to watch him decline for 3 years when the window is closed and the Tucker trade has his replacement in the wings just seems dumb.
I'm on 3/80 in present value $$. Maybe 3/90. I want no opt outs and some deferred. Tue more that's deferred the more the contact value appears to go up but the PV and AAV are lower.
Ag_07 said:
And none of these guys GAF about taxes.
That's complete fan myth.
Yep
Free agents lining up to play in Toronto
Players don't care about taxes.
Getting the most money isn't about take home money, it's about respect. If you make 30 a year, and another guy makes 26, then you are getting more respect from your employer. Even if you only take home 15 and the other guy takes home 18 because of state taxes
Getting the most money isn't about take home money, it's about respect. If you make 30 a year, and another guy makes 26, then you are getting more respect from your employer. Even if you only take home 15 and the other guy takes home 18 because of state taxes
Welcome to the chat Mrs Bregman! Any thought on where hubby winds up?amercer said:
Players don't care about taxes.
Getting the most money isn't about take home money, it's about respect. If you make 30 a year, and another guy makes 26, then you are getting more respect from your employer. Even if you only take home 15 and the other guy takes home 18 because of state taxes
J/k
If we really want to break it down the higher AAV on the shorter term deal has investment return potential. Using a very conservative 4.5% 10 year Treasury Bond and compounded over 3 years that is something. Rinse and repeat for year 2 and year 3(fewer compounded years). I realize he will get paid throughout the season, but I kept it simple. This is just on the small increase in take-home pay which isn't much at all, but it is something.
Holy crap. You joined a day in the future since it is technically 2/6 still and this was your first post out the gate.Houston1836 said:
If we really want to break it down the higher AAV on the shorter term deal has investment return potential. Using a very conservative 4.5% 10 year Treasury Bond and compounded over 3 years that is something. Rinse and repeat for year 2 and year 3(fewer compounded years). I realize he will get paid throughout the season, but I kept it simple. This is just on the small increase in take-home pay which isn't much at all, but it is something.
For real Breg's how you doing man? Was wondering how long it would take for you to come from TigerDroppings and say hi. When you get back in town I got a few jerseys if you have a minute and a sharpie.
EastCoastAgNc said:
I think the only place where taxes matter is when it comes to playing in Canada. Their tax laws are absolutely brutal.
Somebody's gotta pay for that "free" healthcare.
uhhhh, this is going to get awkward.
Happy Friday y'all! Who's ready for some more Breggy drama?
Can’t believe Ippei got a 5 year deal before Alex Bregman. https://t.co/052DjvwA6A
— Shawn (@PalmerDesigns_) February 6, 2025
Can we just stop dicking around and sign another lefty OF like Jason Heyward or Alex Verdugo on the cheap? I'm good with either one. They're probably about the same offensively but I don't know about D. Heyward is 35 and if he were 30 he'd be the choice defensively but now I'm not sure.
Anyway, let's thank Breggy for the good times and memories. Best of luck in your future endeavors.
Anyway, let's thank Breggy for the good times and memories. Best of luck in your future endeavors.
I get the sentiment but the Breggy crap has little to no impact on us signing a cheap OFer.TarponChaser said:
Can we just stop dicking around and sign another lefty OF like Jason Heyward or Alex Verdugo on the cheap? I'm good with either one. They're probably about the same offensively but I don't know about D. Heyward is 35 and if he were 30 he'd be the choice defensively but now I'm not sure.
Anyway, let's thank Breggy for the good times and memories. Best of luck in your future endeavors.
Tigers fans in mid April form in regards to Breggy
How are Detroit fans already angry at Alex Bregman??? The dude hasn't even signed yet and you're already yelling at him https://t.co/gSY6cXU2Xh pic.twitter.com/Ju6wEBkNih
— Jacob Zanolla (@jacobzanolla) February 6, 2025
We just signed Gamel like a day or two ago
Always have a fall guyEastCoastAgNc said:Can’t believe Ippei got a 5 year deal before Alex Bregman. https://t.co/052DjvwA6A
— Shawn (@PalmerDesigns_) February 6, 2025
MLB owners taking a hard-line stance on a salary cap would be a mistake. Column: https://t.co/HxTeROCTh9
— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) February 7, 2025
Walk off double for me. When the list has a bunch of guys like Pete Incaviglia, Glenn Wilson, & Ray Knight and we have to know if they played for a certain team then its gunna be a guess from me.
IMO, MLB has no interest in maintaining competitive balance. There's no money in that. But there's huge money in the "big market" teams doing well - LAD, NYY, NYM, CHC, BOS. All of these teams are willing to spend, spend, spend.
Walk off double.
Double for me. I swapped two guys at the last minute and shouldn't have.
Walk off home run!
My best result so far
My best result so far
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