After 12 games, the Astros are slashing .208/.293/.291 as a team. The .291 slugging percentage and .584 OPS are both the lowest in baseball.
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) April 10, 2025
After 12 games, the Astros are slashing .208/.293/.291 as a team. The .291 slugging percentage and .584 OPS are both the lowest in baseball.
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) April 10, 2025
We've now got an entire team of Jose Abreu productionEastCoastAgNc said:After 12 games, the Astros are slashing .208/.293/.291 as a team. The .291 slugging percentage and .584 OPS are both the lowest in baseball.
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) April 10, 2025
Good call. We're 25th in holding runners.Wabs said:
I'd add to the negative that bases can be stolen on us at will. But that's been a problem for a few years now.
The Astros have accumulated 13 PA vs. LHP this season. No other team has recorded fewer than 60.
— Aidan Resnick (@AidanResnick) April 10, 2025
They rank 26th in team wRC+. 28th in team xwOBA. Handedness is not the only issue, but it's safe to say their decision to pass up on cheap left-handed bats has been totally exposed.
texasaggie2015 said:Farmer1906 said:It's almost like good players go through bad stretches at times.agdaddy04 said:
Goodness, for those of us making fun of Devers to start the season, he's now batting 265 with an 802 OPS.
Thank you.
Gold Glove DHastros4545 said:texasaggie2015 said:Farmer1906 said:It's almost like good players go through bad stretches at times.agdaddy04 said:
Goodness, for those of us making fun of Devers to start the season, he's now batting 265 with an 802 OPS.
Thank you.
He also has made zero errors in the field
Boiling Denim said:We've now got an entire team of Jose Abreu productionEastCoastAgNc said:After 12 games, the Astros are slashing .208/.293/.291 as a team. The .291 slugging percentage and .584 OPS are both the lowest in baseball.
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) April 10, 2025
Hilarious tbh
Yall remember who I wanted to upgrade with? Brendan Donovan and his 3/4/5 slashline. Yes, I would have traded Spaghetti and prospects to get him.MaxPower said:
Defense is a big positive. Looks like Jose might even be above average in LF. Rodgers has been meh at 2B so I'm still looking at that spot as somewhere to upgrade this year.
Mostly guys like McCormick, where he hit for an .842 OPS in 2023, but was in the mid .700s in 2021-2022 and can't seem to get above .600 in 2024-2025. Is he a "good player" who is just having a bad 1.5 years? Or is he somebody we shouldn't expect to ever approach his 2023 levels again?Farmer1906 said:Who are you referring to specifically?txags92 said:The question is do we have a bunch of "good players" that are in a 2+ year dry spell and are about to get hot again, or do we have a bunch of JAGs that had a hot streak long enough for us to start to believe they were capable of more than they really are?Farmer1906 said:It's almost like good players go through bad stretches at times.agdaddy04 said:
Goodness, for those of us making fun of Devers to start the season, he's now batting 265 with an 802 OPS.
I think Chas is somewhere between '24 and '23. If you combine those 2 years, his wRC+ is 108, the same as his rookie season. His career wRC+ is 110. That puts him ~10% above average. I think that is a fair expectation as long as he's getting ~30% of his ABs vs LHP. He's 29 years old and should be in the middle of his prime. A guy like Chas isn't the reason this team in struggling overall. He's only gotten 14 PA.txags92 said:Mostly guys like McCormick, where he hit for an .842 OPS in 2023, but was in the mid .700s in 2021-2022 and can seem to get above .600 in 2024-2025. Is he a "good player" who is just having a bad 1.5 years? Or is he somebody we shouldn't expect to ever approach his 2023 levels again?Farmer1906 said:Who are you referring to specifically?txags92 said:The question is do we have a bunch of "good players" that are in a 2+ year dry spell and are about to get hot again, or do we have a bunch of JAGs that had a hot streak long enough for us to start to believe they were capable of more than they really are?Farmer1906 said:It's almost like good players go through bad stretches at times.agdaddy04 said:
Goodness, for those of us making fun of Devers to start the season, he's now batting 265 with an 802 OPS.
Or Diaz...is he the .846 guy from 2023, the .766 guy from last year, or the .200 guy from this year? What is a realistic expectation for him?
I think we also get ahead of where we really are with some guys because of how they performed in a few really clutch games. Pena is a great example. He was all world as the MVP of the WS in 2022, but he is a pretty pedestrian hitter over the course of the rest of his career. I occasionally see comments about him "regaining his WS form", like he has been in a slump since then, but looking over the full course of his career, where he has been since 2022 seems to be more of who he is as a hitter than the 2022 playoff run. Could say the same for Meyers. He hasn't shown anything to indicate is likely to become a .800+ OPS guy. We all see some potential in Jake, but nothing in his past suggests that is who he is as a hitter.
I was stopping by this thread to share my thoughts on the last couple of games, but then I saw your post and decided it captured my thoughts perfectly.mwm said:
Yesterday was a kick in the groin.
Ag_07 said:
I don't think the angels will be contenders but I do think they won't be the laughable pushovers they've been recently.
"I am interested to see how they evolve over the course of the season with this new mix."
— Foul Territory (@FoulTerritoryTV) April 10, 2025
Despite their early struggles, @Ken_Rosenthal isn't counting out the Astros just yet... pic.twitter.com/xkhnAzOzDJ
I got him in fantasy a few days ago. on pace for an 80-60 season so farFarmer1906 said:
Yall know who else is killing it? Nolan Arenado. However, I don't think it's legit. Just some early season luck.
Who I do think is legit? Kyren Paris. Go pick him up in fanasty if you haven't yet. Of course, he's not going to be a 355 wRC+ player, but I think the Angels have a 23-year-old stud in the making.
Farmer1906 said:The Astros have accumulated 13 PA vs. LHP this season. No other team has recorded fewer than 60.
— Aidan Resnick (@AidanResnick) April 10, 2025
They rank 26th in team wRC+. 28th in team xwOBA. Handedness is not the only issue, but it's safe to say their decision to pass up on cheap left-handed bats has been totally exposed.
I agree with you on pretty much all of that, and I wasn't trying to say any one guy was why the team is struggling (except maybe Cintron, but then where does that leave Snitker; j/k). But I was trying to make the point that kind of echoes what somebody else made a few days or weeks ago, which is that we have lost or traded away several really good players that were particularly clutch hitters. And except for the Tucker trade that might still work out well, we have not replaced them with similar players.Farmer1906 said:I think Chas is somewhere between '24 and '23. If you combine those 2 years, his wRC+ is 108, the same as his rookie season. His career wRC+ is 110. That puts him ~10% above average. I think that is a fair expectation as long as he's getting ~30% of his ABs vs LHP. He's 29 years old and should be in the middle of his prime. A guy like Chas isn't the reason this team in struggling overall. He's only gotten 14 PA.txags92 said:Mostly guys like McCormick, where he hit for an .842 OPS in 2023, but was in the mid .700s in 2021-2022 and can seem to get above .600 in 2024-2025. Is he a "good player" who is just having a bad 1.5 years? Or is he somebody we shouldn't expect to ever approach his 2023 levels again?Farmer1906 said:Who are you referring to specifically?txags92 said:The question is do we have a bunch of "good players" that are in a 2+ year dry spell and are about to get hot again, or do we have a bunch of JAGs that had a hot streak long enough for us to start to believe they were capable of more than they really are?Farmer1906 said:It's almost like good players go through bad stretches at times.agdaddy04 said:
Goodness, for those of us making fun of Devers to start the season, he's now batting 265 with an 802 OPS.
Or Diaz...is he the .846 guy from 2023, the .766 guy from last year, or the .200 guy from this year? What is a realistic expectation for him?
I think we also get ahead of where we really are with some guys because of how they performed in a few really clutch games. Pena is a great example. He was all world as the MVP of the WS in 2022, but he is a pretty pedestrian hitter over the course of the rest of his career. I occasionally see comments about him "regaining his WS form", like he has been in a slump since then, but looking over the full course of his career, where he has been since 2022 seems to be more of who he is as a hitter than the 2022 playoff run. Could say the same for Meyers. He hasn't shown anything to indicate is likely to become a .800+ OPS guy. We all see some potential in Jake, but nothing in his past suggests that is who he is as a hitter.
Look at Diaz's history:
2019 - 145 (minors)
2021 - 136 (minors)
2022 - 121 (minors)
2023 - 127
2024 - 117
2025 - (-37)
He's been a stud or at least well above avg every year no matter the level of play. He's in the middle of a crazy slump. He has plenty of flaws (chasing, too aggressive, etc) but I think we have a good amount of evidence to say that his 1st 2 season of play aren't flukes. This year (only 36 PA) is the anomaly.
I think Pena & Meyers are about who they've shown to be. The avg on offense with skills on base and in the field. They'll go thru flashes of greatness, but I don't think either is special.
Christian Walker this time last year.
— Astros Knower (@AstrosKnower) April 10, 2025
48 AB: .292 AVG / .382 OBP / .500 SLG / .882 OPS. He had 1 2B, 3 HR’s, 11 RBI, and 17 SO.
Christian Walker in the same amount of AB’s this year.
48 AB: .146 AVG / .196 OBP / .229 SLG / .425 OPS. He has 1 2B, 1 HR, 1 RBI, and 18 SO.
I know…
EastCoastAgNc said:Christian Walker this time last year.
— Astros Knower (@AstrosKnower) April 10, 2025
48 AB: .292 AVG / .382 OBP / .500 SLG / .882 OPS. He had 1 2B, 3 HR’s, 11 RBI, and 17 SO.
Christian Walker in the same amount of AB’s this year.
48 AB: .146 AVG / .196 OBP / .229 SLG / .425 OPS. He has 1 2B, 1 HR, 1 RBI, and 18 SO.
I know…
EastCoastAgNc said:Christian Walker this time last year.
— Astros Knower (@AstrosKnower) April 10, 2025
48 AB: .292 AVG / .382 OBP / .500 SLG / .882 OPS. He had 1 2B, 3 HR’s, 11 RBI, and 17 SO.
Christian Walker in the same amount of AB’s this year.
48 AB: .146 AVG / .196 OBP / .229 SLG / .425 OPS. He has 1 2B, 1 HR, 1 RBI, and 18 SO.
I know…