June 2024 Trip To Colorado

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Jock 07 said:

HollywoodBQ said:

I Pike's Peak from the east and in the right light conditions, you can see the "Purple Mountains Majesty above the fruited plain"



First thing in the morning as the sun is rising is the best chance to see it. This from this morning.



If your picture scrolled more to the left you would be looking at my house. You would need a powerful lens, but I am in there somewhere on Cheyenne

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I've finally locked this trip in.

I culled several days from this trip due to the amount of time we would simply be on the road, which I was starting to think would limit us just sitting back and enjoying the scenery. I've axed all of the western portions of the state to where we will simply do south to north on the eastern side of the state, all in the course of 7 days after 2 days to get there. Spend 3 days in Colorado Springs, the next 4 days in Estes Park. 2 days return trip.

Almost did get plane tickets last week when I found a decent sale from Southwest, but any savings gets eaten up with the rental car. The route we're taking will be from Katy to Amarillo day 1, arrive in Colorado Springs day 2, leave CS day 5 for Estes Park. We'll be taking I-70 east out of Denver to Salina, KS, then turning south to get to Oklahoma City, stay there for the night then back home several hours later.

I secured an Airbnb in Manitou Springs for our Colorado Springs stay. Found a small cabin to stay in while in Estes Park. In Colorado Springs, we'll be taking the Cog railway to the top of Pikes Peak and going to Garden of the Gods. There is a WWII aviation museum that we might get to. If the Air Force Academy is open for tours, might do that. In Estes Park, I had considered getting one night in the Stanley Hotel but the idea of spending as much for one night as I did for 3 nights in the cabin was not one I could take. But will go on their ghost tour as our daughter is really interested in that. Rocky Mountain National Park will be an entire day. My wife mentioned the Park Theater, apparently the oldest movie theater in the nation; not sure I want to see a movie when I can do that any day here without trekking across the country.

I've had some suggest getting into a tour group for side excursions. Not sure that we'll really have time for that kind of thing, but am open to suggestions.
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Make sure you get your entrance reservations ASAP for RMNP....these are separate from the actual park admissions
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AgRyan04 said:

Make sure you get your entrance reservations ASAP for RMNP....these are separate from the actual park admissions
I went to do that this morning, but all of both May and June are listed as unavailable. Do they release these reservations or am I too late to even get one?

edit - looks like I can get an annual pass
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You were too late.

For this summer in Colorado if you want a campsite or reservation you have to log on exactly 6 months before you want in
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knoxtom said:

You were too late.

For this summer in Colorado if you want a campsite or reservation you have to log on exactly 6 months before you want in
Not doing a campsite. Is reservation = entry pass (the terminology used on the RMNP web site)?
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Yup
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Talked to someone in the Information center just now.

They are using a timed entry system for my travel dates, so none of those reservations have been released for sale as yet. They will be made available May 1 at 8 am MT. And he had a nice idea for me to consider - I can avoid all the timed entry stuff by getting a reservation on a tour bus that operates from Estes Park. Will still need to park entry, but this will free me up from having to do the driving and looking for what he says is limited parking (when there will be big crowds more than likely). Sounds like a win for me. Plus, that also frees me up to be able to take in the sights and operate my camera (which neither my wife nor my daughter have ever expressed any interest in using).
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JustPanda said:

Ridgway isn't a hidden gem anymore. Property values have risen about 400% over the last 5 years and the town has exploded. We just sold our old place there.


Tent-camped 12 years ago at the state park for a week.
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
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Small tip on the cog, book the left side of the train, better views up and down. Also typically best to book the first or second train. Tends to cloud up and storms roll off the mountains pretty much every afternoon in the spring.

Also, FYSA, the USAFA chapel is still in its enclosure during the renovations that aren't supposed to be done til 2027 now iirc
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Jock 07 said:

Small tip on the cog, book the left side of the train, better views up and down. Also typically best to book the first or second train. Tends to cloud up and storms roll off the mountains pretty much every afternoon in the spring.

Also, FYSA, the USAFA chapel is still in its enclosure during the renovations that aren't supposed to be done til 2027 now iirc
Thanks. I literally booked the cog railway an hour ago. Got row 2 on the left side, second trip up per the schedule.

Bummer about the chapel, was hoping it would be open.
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Good deal, still cool trails and things around the academy grounds to check out. Falcon loop is great for biking, although not sure if the fire a few weeks ago affected that or not. The blue course on USAFA is nice if you're a golfer and have access to it.

Zoo, while not huge is a great option as well. Can't beat the views from the side of the mountain either.
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That zoo is fun and a great hike.
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It's over a decade since our kid was a Zoomie, but I expect it's much the same.

No firearms on USAFA property, make sure you have insurance card, don't be surprised if you get a random search.

The actual classrooms and dorms are off limits behind a fence. Most cadets will be gone, but about a third should still be doing summer stuff, such as flight instruction. The class of 2028 arrives June 26, so I'd avoid that day.

But you can auto tour huge parts of the grounds. Lots of airplanes-on-sticks, including B-52, A-10, F-16. There's a spot with several planes, where you can watch glider and parachute ops on the air field. You can drive around the athletic fields and self-tour the field house (gym, hockey rink, etc.) You can also go into the student center, and the Quad (Terrazzo) overlooks near it. Normally, you can use the overlook around the Chapel, but I suspect it might be closed.

The visitor's center has a few exhibits, and a gift shop, and you can hike a short trail from there to the Chapel area.
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In Amarillo, I'd suggest not staying on the east side, most everywhere else is okay. Further west, usually the better. PD Canyon and the Museum here are always great, but I assume you won't have the time. Same goes for the Charles Goodnight home at Goodnight,

If you go through Channing, the XIT business office is there, if you want to look in the windows,

From Clayton (speed trap, obey the limits no matter how far from town) the Eklund Hotel is cool, there is a great dinosaur trackway at the lake, about 100 yard hike.

Capulin is a must see, for those who have the time.

You can always stay on 87 from Clayton to Raton. But for those with time, I say get off at Des Moines, take 325 to Folsom, then 72 over the top of Johnson Mesa. Also spectacular is 456 and 551 through the Dry Cimarron to Branson, Co.. But it's a desolate drive from there to Trinidad
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Driving non-stop sounds like a lot, but then I remember driving non-stop from Katy to Orlando with our youngest still in pre-school and her slightly older cousin, so should be able to do a similar drive with our daughter easily able to self-entertain.

I divide the pain factor of the drive into two camps. Assuming you are going to drive up through Raton Pass, the run to the New Mexico border is the hard stretch as all you get is the ass-end of Northwest Texas (I can say that hailing from that part) and the Big Texas steak house.

Once you get past Raton, the drive is part of the fun to me especially if you are cutting over to Royal Gorge from the interstate.

You could make the 12 hour run from Katy one day and then slow walk it after that. I would be curious what route you plan to hit all that. Seems get off 25 for the Gorge and and then work your way back to Pike's Peak and Colorado Springs. You could then go up to Estes and use the fast roads to go over to the western part of the state.
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Yikes, just saw that you had put together the plan.

Pro-tip, don't sit with your father-in-law at the Colorado Springs Embassy Suites happy hour and get good and lubed, fail to hydrate, and then take the Cog Rail up the next morning. Altitude sickness hit me good and hard up on the peak.

If you are scratching for things to do in C.S., I was pleasantly surprised by the Glen Eyrie mansion.



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Get to Garden of the Gods early. There's no cost of admission but the parking lots do fill up. We got there around the time the visitor center opened (9AM) and asked the best lot to park in, and by the time we parked we were one of the last cars to get a spot. This was the first weekend in March, so I'd imagine it will fill up even faster in the summer. I'd hike first and do the visitors center after.

This is the lot we parked in - https://maps.app.goo.gl/TxAtEh8Lp9vqQd4E7

It was great for doing the paved loop trail, and we decided to add on some of the outer loop trails to go down to the Siamese Twins rocks since the paved loop was pretty short and easy. Not a hard hike but the altitude did start getting to me after a while. The other parking lots we hiked by weren't bad but I'm glad we were in this one because it was at one end of the park. By the time we headed back towards the car around 11:30, the place was a zoo. Lots of people only do the paved trails, so the outer ones were a lot less busy.
The visitor's center was cool but not very helpful - they don't give out paper maps anymore so you'll have to download one and print it before you get there. They do have a cool 3D model of the park.

We saw everything we wanted to by noon and headed to Manitou Springs. The Manitou Cliff Dwellings museum is really cool and only takes about an hour to see everything. You can even walk through the old dwellings to see what the insides were like.
Our favorite little shop in Manitou was 'Colorado Art of Facts'. The rest of the shops are pretty generic gift shops, but this one had genuinely cool memorabilia like old original post cards from the early 1900s, etc.

If you want a great breakfast, 'The Pantry' in Green Mountain Falls is about 15 minutes from Manitou Springs up into the mountains near the Pikes Peak turnoff and was so good we went back for breakfast a second day in a row. Get the Cinnamon Roll French Toast and thank me later.
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I thought I would give a little hiking advice since everything you talk about doesn't involve the outdoors and Colorado Springs is all about the outdoors. I can't remember if you have kids along which makes recommendations tough.


7 bridges trail. - It is fine but overrated. So many people hike it. First mile is gravel road, next 3-4 go up a canyon. You can link to a million other trails from this one. Kineo Mtn, St Marys, Pipeline, Jacks, 667, etc. Most people go out and back. Very kid friendly unless they are very young.

Mt. Muscuco - Not a long trail but a whole lot of bang for the buck. There is some exposure (seen people get really scared) but also some incredible views. I wouldn't bring really little kids. You can add the mountain next to it (Cutler) to add a couple miles and bag two low altitude peaks in one shot. It is cool to see the zip lines and 7 falls from above. This is where I take visitors. Lots of wild berries on the trail also. Yummy.

Red Rocks Open Space - This is an abandoned quarry and also sports the same rocks that make up garden of the gods. It is a GREAT park for kids. Lots of rock climbers, scrambling on rocks, etc. If you go on the east side of the park you will see a white wall (dike). Look at is closely and you will see seashells imbedded in the dike. This is because that dike is older than the Rockies and used to be in the great inland sea. Cool fossils. The west side has the contemplative trail which is super cool.

Mt Rosa Climb - great trail to the top of a mountain. Only negative is that the drive is a long way out a washboarded road. Few miles up and a few down. It is cool that you can point at the mountain from anywhere in Co Springs and say, "I just climbed that." Rosa is the 3rd highest on the Pikes Peak massif.

Bruin, Sweetwater, new Daniels Pass - these are new trails that come out to the south side of Cheyenne Canyon. They are very good but get a decent amount of bike traffic. Gotta be on your toes but worth it.

Strawberry fields - a set of trails next to the Broadmoor and 7 falls that are surprisingly good. They will eventually link to Fishers Canyon and all the way to the State Park. I wouldn't drive far for them.

Manitou Incline - it is kinda boring, you are just climbing a staircase, but you can say you did it.

Barr Trail - Good trail, maybe a great trail. Heavy usage and it is 13 miles up.

Intemanns - from Manitou to Red Rocks via Crystal Park. Great trail but hot.


Ute Valley Park - meh

Palmer Park - good park ruined by some sketchy people

Columbine trail - blows

Buckhorn to Captain Jacks - to many bikes for hikers to enjoy. Scary for kids. We ride that stuff fast.

USAFA Falcon trail - I think it sucks except at the very back of the academy there is a trail that climbs up to a lake. Can't remember the name but it is awesome

Mt Hermann - all of it is pretty good


Anyway hope that helps. Colorado springs is much more enjoyable if you do what makes it great, and that is to see the mountains up close.



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HollywoodBQ said:

Devil's Tower pairs well with Mt. Rushmore, Deadwood, Sturgis, Wall Drug, Crazy Horse Memorial. That's 3-4 days right there.


Then catch the Ags in Omaha. Hit up Branson and Table Rock. Then back on home.
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Less than a month out. I have all lodging reserved, got tickets for the Cog Railway up Pike's Peak, the Georgetown LoopRailroad, entrance pass to RMNP, and the Stanley Hotel tour. I have been looking at the route from Georgetown to Estes Park, which I had been planning to backtrack toward Denver from Georgetown on I-70, then taking state highway 93 through Golden to Boulder, then state highway 36 to Estes Park. Now I am looking at going to Granby from Georgetown, then taking state highway 34 to Estes Park from the west.

I can't seem to get any of the mapping software (google maps, bing maps, Mapquest) to route that approach. Is that because that route is closed at this time due to weather conditions? Is this a viable route for June 18? And this route actually appears to enter RMNP, so I presume I need a park entrance for that day?
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34 closes seasonally every year, and hasn't opened back up yet. It will probably open pretty soon, and should be open by your date in June. It can also close at pretty much anytime though due to weather. You are right, you will need an entry pass to take it to Estes as it goes through the park.
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Coincidentally enough this was just posted by the park's Facebook account.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?id=100064288615190&story_fbid=863038382515774
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Bump this Colorado info.
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Leaving very early in the morning. So glad this trip is finally here.

I'll bring back a trip report and share pictures (of which I plan to fill several cards).

The itinerary from Katy - first stop Amarillo for Saturday night, Manitou Springs Sunday afternoon through Tuesday morning, Georgetown midday Tuesday, on to Estes Park hopefully via US40/US34 through RMNP, Estes Park Tuesday evening through Saturday morning. Thursday will be lots of hiking in RMNP. Leaving Estes Park early Saturday, driving through Kansas to Oklahoma, staying Saturday night in OKC, then get to Van Alstyne TX on Sunday to visit with family, coming home Monday the 24th.
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Trip report on day 2. We arrived in Colorado this morning via I-25. We had just left the scenic overlook by the Welcome to Colorful Colorado sign when I looked down to notice my temperature gauge was suddenly on high. Shortly after that the check engine light came on. We were in Trinidad when this happened. Pulled into the Walmart, where we ran into a fella from Vernon (TX) who suggested silver seal into the radiator to plug any small hole. I am not at all a car dude so out of my element here.

After the silver seal and coolant was added, we drove it a little bit. Temperature gauge stayed on the cool side so far.

Spoke to my AirB&B host, who is willing to refund our first night in Manitou Springs if we are unable to make it there tonight.
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Well, good luck to you. Possibly a coolant leak, but crap in the radiator is worst possible way to fix it. I'd check the coolant every time I started up interior morning (when water is cool)

When you get home, have you mechanic drain and flush and fix any real leak.
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We do The Woodlands to Colorado Springs twice a year. 14 hours and a pretty easy drive.
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CanyonAg77 said:

Well, good luck to you. Possibly a coolant leak, but crap in the radiator is worst possible way to fix it. I'd check the coolant every time I started up interior morning (when water is cool)

When you get home, have you mechanic drain and flush and fix any real leak.
Thanks. I do believe it was a coolant leak, but the measures we took earlier today seem to have worked. The Sequoia ran fine with a constant temperature all the way into Manitou Springs.

Definitely will get it the shop when we get home.

And I have a question for you, Canyon. I believe you are in the Amarillo area? If not, then my apologies. But my question is, what are the large mounds covered by maybe a white tarp and then weighted down with a bunch of tires?
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Yes, I'm in Canyon. If you have car trouble on the way home, give me a shout.

Along those lines, I suspect you've had a slow water leak for a long time, and the stress of crossing Raton Pass showed that you were low on coolant. Another possibility is that your water pump might be going out. You rig will normally drop clean water from the A/C, in front of the front passenger seat.

But if you get leakage that doesn't evaporate, and its orange and sticky, you have a coolant leak. If the water pump is failing, you'll get seepage from the front center of the engine. Check under the car in the morning.


The mounds you see are silage, and yes tarped and weighted with old tire sections. Either leftover corn silage from last fall, or wheat silage from the last month. It's for cattle feedlots or one of the many dairies that have popped up here. Instead of waiting for the wheat or corn to mature completely, silage is cut while the plant is still green. As opposed to just harvesting the grain, the entire plant is cut off close to the ground, cut into short pieced (maybe 2 " long) and hauled off. It will ferment in those piles, and get fed to the cattle in a few months.
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Thanks Canyon for that generous offer.

I don't know why those tired covered mounds caught our attention, but it's good to know what those are for.
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If this is the aviation museum you mentioned, I highly recommend it. The museum includes Westpac aircraft renovation facility and has clients from around the globe. It is privately run and I was very pleasantly surprised with the quantity and condition of the aircraft. Highly recommend it.

https://www.worldwariiaviation.org
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Yes, that is the museum I referenced. Looking forward to seeing that renovation hangar.
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Back home from this trip. Posting now to get my emotions under check with what's going on in Omaha currently.

Day 1 was an uneventful trip from Katy, TX to Amarillo, TX.

Day 2 was, well, much more eventful. We left Amarillo early and headed toward Dumas and Dalhart before making our way to New Mexico. I had made this trip many years ago, but did not recall Raton, New Mexico being such a nice view. We came down the Raton pass into Colorado, stopped for a photo at the "Welcome to Colorful Colorado" sign - and shortly after getting back on the road I noticed the temperature gauge in my Sequoia was fully set to "H". Holy hell. We coasted into Trinidad, CO. The cap on the coolant reservoir blew away. Ran into a fellow from Vernon, TX who recommended some silver stuff (forget the actual name of the product) and additional coolant, and to let that seal up any micro-holes that were likely in the radiator. I'm not at all an engine dude, so if this was a bad thing to do, I'd have never known. But for reasons that I don't know, this "fix" did allow us to proceed up to Manitou Springs (after probably a couple of hours of sticking around Trinidad and letting the engine start operating more normally). Never saw the temperature gauge at an abnormal setting again on the trip, nor did the Check Engine light come on again.

Day 3 was a mixed bag. We had to reorganize our schedule to handle the Sequoia. We found a shop in Manitou Springs to take it to. My wife is a frugal woman. She did not like the quote of ~$500, which sounded about right to me. I went ahead with the work, but had to explain to the guy that we needed it ASAP as we were scheduled to depart Manitou Springs the next morning. I was happy he was able to accommodate us. With that out of the way, we got on the Cog Railway for a trip up to the summit of Pikes Peak. I had been here when I was in high school in the early 80s, but had no recollection of the Cog. On that trip we got on a tour bus to the top. This time, the Cog was it, and I must say, it was a neat way to scale the mountain. I took lots of photos. And as I expected, it was cold enough at the top to warrant a hoodie.

Day 4 required alterations to our itinerary. Originally we would go to Georgetown to ride the Loop Railroad, then head up US Highway 40 to Granby, then US Highway 34 into Rocky Mountain NP and ultimately to Estes Park, CO. After our vehicular issues, I was not going to put that thing through the trip on 34. We rescheduled the railroad to Saturday and got the Sequoia from the shop before heading to Garden of the Gods. I'd been here before, but didn't really explore the area as much as I should have way back in high school. Nice scenery and some decent hikes to be had. We then went into Colorado Springs for the Museum of World War II Aviation. As a warbird nut, I loved this place. First time I'd ever seen a F7F Tigercat, and they had 2 of them. The tour through the restoration facility was awesome. They are currently restoring an SB2C Helldiver to airworthiness, which will be only the second such dive bomber to take to the skies since the 1940s. We probably spent a couple of hours at the museum before heading up I-25 toward southern Denver. Took the loop around to the west of Denver (passed near Columbine for reference). In Boulder, I laughed at the University of Colorado because I'm still ticked at the 1995 game. My wife was somewhat white knuckled during the drive up US Highway 36 into Estes Park with all the hairpin turns. But of what a view we saw when we came down that last rise and saw the lake with the Stanley Hotel clearly visible in the distance, and beyond that the snow-capped peaks of what I think was the Continental Divide.

Day 5 was always going to be a free day with only one activity scheduled. We spent much of the day exploring Estes Park. Ate lunch at Penelope's - I had a fire burger with ghost peppers, which I handled just fine until the last bite. Yikes, those peppers are hot. We were amazed at the number of elk we saw wandering the streets and even blocking traffic. In Houston those mofos would have been road kill. We spent the evening at the Stanley Hotel on the Night Tour. Lots of ghost stories were told, and we even saw some photographic "evidence" of said ghosts. I put that in quotes because those pictures could easily have been faked. But who knows? As a fan of The Shining, I had to wander through the hedge maze. The maze is not the same as depicted in the movie - the hedges are roughly 4' tall, not the 12' hedges the movie showed. They were just tall enough that I couldn't see exactly where to go, but I got through that thing easily anyway.

Day 6 was Rocky Mountain National Park. I've only made it to a handful of national parks - Grand Canyon, Petrified Forest, Mesa Verde, Guadalupe Mountains, and Great Smoky Mountains, but RMNP is the most stunning I've been to. We did the hiker's shuttle into the park, then hopped on the in-park bus to Sprague Lake. We did the first of our 3 hikes there. This was a first for all of us, so our hikes are not intended to wow anyone. After Sprague, we headed up to Bear Lake and hiked that one. I thought we were done, but my wife wanted to hike to the falls (her words). We talked to a local at the entrance to the Bear Lake hike, who said we were looking for Alberta Falls. It was downhill for a good while, but to get to the top of the falls was the most strenuous part of the day. Of my group (wife and daughter), I was the only one who made it all the way to the top. I was breathing pretty heavily, but that view was worth it. When we started back, we went to Glacier Gorge rather than the Bear Lake entry point. We were a bit worried about not making it in time for the last departure of the hiker's shuttle (at 6PM), but made it for the 5:15PM departure. Spent the evening in a hot tub recuperating my sore legs and hips.

Day 7 was another free day where we did some shopping in Estes Park, had a massive ice cream cone, and just generally relaxed.

Day 8 had us leaving Estes Park along the same route we took to get there. We hit I-70 west to Georgetown, CO and road the railroad. I guess that was an old boyhood wish to be able to ride an actual steam locomotive, so I had a big grin on my face for most of that ride. Lots of great scenery there as well. Also they had some humorous stuff along the ride, with Bigfoot cutouts hiding among the trees. We rode the first train ride of the morning, so we were out of Georgetown by noon and went right through Denver and did not stop until we hit Russell, KS. Russell was interesting as they were rather proud to be the boyhood homes of not one, but two former US Senators (Bob Dole and Arlen Specter). My wife got us a place to stay at an RV park (nope, we don't currently own an RV). They had a spare RV that we could stay in for the night. There was a burger joint about a quarter mile away from the RV park, where I got to snarf down a big juicy burger while watching the Fightin' Texas Aggies beat the Deliverance squad from Tennessee in game 1.

Day 9 was a long travel day from Russel, KS to Van Alstyne, TX, where we stayed with our oldest and new grandson.

Today was Day 10, the return to Katy, TX.
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