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In reply to flashplayer • 9:00a, 10/17/25
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BBAI - I am adding about 10% to what I have here. If it drops some more I will make another buy around 7.25.


Dang it - took my eye off this one for a minute and it bounced right off of 7.27 this morning. I will be in wait and see mode for a bit here to see if it holds above that support level or keeps dropping. If it falls through that level there's a good chance that buys in the low 6's become available soon.
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9:12a, 10/17/25
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Anybody know anything about Miso Robotics?
Peace for Ukraine!
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In reply to LMCane • 9:24a, 10/17/25
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flashplayer said:
Fear greed index flashing near extreme fear. Last time it did this looks to have been December before we went higher into the February selloff and then into April's liberation day low. Do we still get a breather bounce and chance to liquidate before everything goes on sell for some potential huge gains?

My gut says we have another down day tomorrow then everyone realizes over the weekend that the world isn't ending and we surge back to ATH next week as earnings continue to show strength.

But then again, bitcoin seems like it has been serving as kind of a canary lately and it's up 1% tonight, so maybe it's the opposite of what I think.

every "expert" financial host keeps trying to force an economic depression with comparisons to 1999

but then every single actual metric shows there is fear and trepidation about this market and NOT irrational exuberance!

the valuations are coming due to reporting companies beating on the top and bottom line, not because PETS.COM just was offered a billion dollar IPO.

Go look at what earnings were doing in 1999 and even into 2000 for "stable" companies.

Fundamentals are not going to be what tells you a bull market is ending. They lag at bottoms and lag at tops.
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In reply to flashplayer • 9:26a, 10/17/25
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You may get another shot at it soon. Coming back down.
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9:38a, 10/17/25
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Quantum computing stocks taking a beating for the second straight day. Not sure why.
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In reply to WestTexasAg • 9:47a, 10/17/25
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Quantum computing stocks taking a beating for the second straight day. Not sure why.

Most speculative things are taking a beating.
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In reply to WestTexasAg • 9:48a, 10/17/25
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Quantum computing stocks taking a beating for the second straight day. Not sure why.

RGTi and QBTS were up like 100%-150% in the past month lol. It had to come down back to Earth at some point.
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In reply to Texag5324 • 9:51a, 10/17/25
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Texag5324 said:
WestTexasAg said:
Quantum computing stocks taking a beating for the second straight day. Not sure why.

RGTi and QBTS were up like 100%-150% in the past month lol. It had to come down back to Earth at some point.

True. I'm thinking of buying some more. Long term play.
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In reply to Heineken-Ashi • 9:54a, 10/17/25
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Heineken-Ashi said:
LMCane said:
flashplayer said:
Fear greed index flashing near extreme fear. Last time it did this looks to have been December before we went higher into the February selloff and then into April's liberation day low. Do we still get a breather bounce and chance to liquidate before everything goes on sell for some potential huge gains?

My gut says we have another down day tomorrow then everyone realizes over the weekend that the world isn't ending and we surge back to ATH next week as earnings continue to show strength.

But then again, bitcoin seems like it has been serving as kind of a canary lately and it's up 1% tonight, so maybe it's the opposite of what I think.

every "expert" financial host keeps trying to force an economic depression with comparisons to 1999

but then every single actual metric shows there is fear and trepidation about this market and NOT irrational exuberance!

the valuations are coming due to reporting companies beating on the top and bottom line, not because PETS.COM just was offered a billion dollar IPO.

Go look at what earnings were doing in 1999 and even into 2000 for "stable" companies.

Fundamentals are not going to be what tells you a bull market is ending. They lag at bottoms and lag at tops.

Especially considering the circular nature of the AI companies. Its a feedback loop for OpenAI, NVDA, CRWV, MSFT, etc are acting as customers, suppliers, and financiers to one another all at the same time. Someone can post the graphic from Bloomberg

Healthcare spending is probably going to increase into the new year. Clearly there's a government push into increased defense and protectionism surrounding materials and certain commodities.

Its not obvious consumer spending is going to decrease especially with Oil prices dropping. 50% of consumer spending is derived from the top 10% of earners and those top 10% of earners are richer day by day with increases in Gold, RE, and the S&P. (All thanks to increasing M2*)

* this last bit was for you H-A


edit: this is the graphic for those that have not seen it
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In reply to WestTexasAg • 10:04a, 10/17/25
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Texag5324 said:
WestTexasAg said:
Quantum computing stocks taking a beating for the second straight day. Not sure why.

RGTi and QBTS were up like 100%-150% in the past month lol. It had to come down back to Earth at some point.

True. I'm thinking of buying some more. Long term play.


I'd consider being patient because they're all inflated because of hype and FOMO. The fact is they're all 7-10 years away from positive earnings growth. If you want to add more then do it in stages and not all at once. JMO
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In reply to WestTexasAg • 10:10a, 10/17/25
WestTexasAg said:
Texag5324 said:
WestTexasAg said:
Quantum computing stocks taking a beating for the second straight day. Not sure why.

RGTi and QBTS were up like 100%-150% in the past month lol. It had to come down back to Earth at some point.

True. I'm thinking of buying some more. Long term play.

Same here, I added more yesterday, might add more today.
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In reply to tysker • 10:18a, 10/17/25
If you followed Dario on twitter, who I've posted here, the circular financing was known over a year ago, along with other shenanigans like selling chips to SMCI and routing them through Singapore to China.
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In reply to tysker • 10:20a, 10/17/25
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tysker said:
Heineken-Ashi said:
LMCane said:
flashplayer said:
Fear greed index flashing near extreme fear. Last time it did this looks to have been December before we went higher into the February selloff and then into April's liberation day low. Do we still get a breather bounce and chance to liquidate before everything goes on sell for some potential huge gains?

My gut says we have another down day tomorrow then everyone realizes over the weekend that the world isn't ending and we surge back to ATH next week as earnings continue to show strength.

But then again, bitcoin seems like it has been serving as kind of a canary lately and it's up 1% tonight, so maybe it's the opposite of what I think.

every "expert" financial host keeps trying to force an economic depression with comparisons to 1999

but then every single actual metric shows there is fear and trepidation about this market and NOT irrational exuberance!

the valuations are coming due to reporting companies beating on the top and bottom line, not because PETS.COM just was offered a billion dollar IPO.

Go look at what earnings were doing in 1999 and even into 2000 for "stable" companies.

Fundamentals are not going to be what tells you a bull market is ending. They lag at bottoms and lag at tops.

Especially considering the circular nature of the AI companies. Its a feedback loop for OpenAI, NVDA, CRWV, MSFT, etc are acting as customers, suppliers, and financiers to one another all at the same time. Someone can post the graphic from Bloomberg

Healthcare spending is probably going to increase into the new year. Clearly there's a government push into increased defense and protectionism surrounding materials and certain commodities.

Its not obvious consumer spending is going to decrease especially with Oil prices dropping. 50% of consumer spending is derived from the top 10% of earners and those top 10% of earners are richer day by day with increases in Gold, RE, and the S&P. (All thanks to increasing M2*)

* this last bit was for you H-A


edit: this is the graphic for those that have not seen it

Couldn't you do this for a lot of industries?
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10:34a, 10/17/25
As ugly as the past few days have been, I'm thankful that I'm still almost 60% cash. The thought of putting that cash to use is a little scary to be honest.
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In reply to South Platte • 10:37a, 10/17/25
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As ugly as the past few days have been, I'm thankful that I'm still almost 60% cash. The thought of putting that cash to use is a little scary to be honest.

The S&P 500 is down 2% from its all time high, the last all time high was last week. This "dip" is a big nothing burger in the grand scheme of things.
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In reply to South Platte • 10:41a, 10/17/25
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As ugly as the past few days have been, I'm thankful that I'm still almost 60% cash. The thought of putting that cash to use is a little scary to be honest.

When will this ever not be true though? When we go back to low volatility and the market is going sideways and you get to watch it move at a snail's pace like the first decade and a half of the century? It's always a scary time to throw your money into the gambling machine. It was really scary back in the early part of this year too when people were posting about going to 100% cash.
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In reply to Texag5324 • 10:45a, 10/17/25
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South Platte said:
As ugly as the past few days have been, I'm thankful that I'm still almost 60% cash. The thought of putting that cash to use is a little scary to be honest.

The S&P 500 is down 2% from its all time high, the last all time high was last week. This "dip" is a big nothing burger in the grand scheme of things.

That's my point though. The "dip" could be just the beginning. Buying right now opens myself up to risk if it goes 5, 10, 15%, etc.
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10:47a, 10/17/25
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Or we go right back past the high.
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In reply to Heineken-Ashi • 10:58a, 10/17/25
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techno-ag said:
UNG with a new 52wl.

It's a decaying instrument. It can make a new low with natty holding a higher low. Should never trade UNG based on its own levels.. should watch gas spot and gas futures and trade UNG using those levels.

I just like buying commodity ETFs when they're down and holding for a while.

There are worse hobbies.
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In reply to South Platte • 11:00a, 10/17/25
South Platte said:
Texag5324 said:
South Platte said:
As ugly as the past few days have been, I'm thankful that I'm still almost 60% cash. The thought of putting that cash to use is a little scary to be honest.

The S&P 500 is down 2% from its all time high, the last all time high was last week. This "dip" is a big nothing burger in the grand scheme of things.

That's my point though. The "dip" could be just the beginning. Buying right now opens myself up to risk if it goes 5, 10, 15%, etc.


I mean this could be said for literally the entire history of the stock market lol. You're going to miss out on a bunch of gains by keeping 60% cash, I'm going to guess you missed out on the rally this year or last year.

Remember, the majority of gains in the market come from a few days every year. If you're not invested during those days, you're missing out on a ton of money.
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11:04a, 10/17/25
Indexes creeping to green one by one….



I don't know what I'm doing wrong for the gif not to show up….
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In reply to Texag5324 • 11:11a, 10/17/25
Texag5324 said:
South Platte said:
Texag5324 said:
South Platte said:
As ugly as the past few days have been, I'm thankful that I'm still almost 60% cash. The thought of putting that cash to use is a little scary to be honest.

The S&P 500 is down 2% from its all time high, the last all time high was last week. This "dip" is a big nothing burger in the grand scheme of things.

That's my point though. The "dip" could be just the beginning. Buying right now opens myself up to risk if it goes 5, 10, 15%, etc.


I mean this could be said for literally the entire history of the stock market lol. You're going to miss out on a bunch of gains by keeping 60% cash, I'm going to guess you missed out on the rally this year or last year.

Remember, the majority of gains in the market come from a few days every year. If you're not invested during those days, you're missing out on a ton of money.

No, I posted earlier this week how badly I'm slaughtering my Edward Jones guy that manages about 20% of my portfolio. I've maintained a large cash balance throughout this year but have been able to trade a variety of things that have netted 20-35% overall growth. Some plays have been short term 5% wins, others have been 100% gains over a couple of months.

Of course, right after I posted my initial message everything jumped!
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In reply to BucketofBalls99 • 11:18a, 10/17/25
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Indexes creeping to green one by one….

I don't know what I'm doing wrong for the gif not to show up….

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In reply to South Platte • 11:34a, 10/17/25
Thanks…but still not seeing where I went wrong. Oh well
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In reply to BucketofBalls99 • 11:36a, 10/17/25
Get rid of the [img ] [/img ]
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11:36a, 10/17/25
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Peachtree Group Real Estate

I am being pitched an investment in this firm's commercial real estate lending by an advisor now. Does anyone have familiarity with this group, or have strong feelings one way or another about the wisdom (or lack thereof) of investing in this space at this point? Pertinent questions I need to have answered ahead of time? My understanding is that there are a lot of hotel and multi family units that they deal with, it would be a dividend/income play (of which I really am under focused). Gracias por su ayuda in advance.
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In reply to BucketofBalls99 • 11:38a, 10/17/25
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Thanks…but still not seeing where I went wrong. Oh well

Not your fault. It was a faulty address. I used a different address.
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In reply to South Platte • 11:43a, 10/17/25
Ah gotcha
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In reply to Gaeilge • 11:44a, 10/17/25
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Get rid of the [img ] [/img ]

I didn't have it at first and it didn't work either
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In reply to Kool • 11:47a, 10/17/25
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Peachtree Group Real Estate

I am being pitched an investment in this firm's commercial real estate lending by an advisor now. Does anyone have familiarity with this group, or have strong feelings one way or another about the wisdom (or lack thereof) of investing in this space at this point? Pertinent questions I need to have answered ahead of time? My understanding is that there are a lot of hotel and multi family units that they deal with, it would be a dividend/income play (of which I really am under focused). Gracias por su ayuda in advance.


Not enough info. Is it a diversified group of investments? Single term or laddered maturities? New loans or existing?
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In reply to Kool • 11:48a, 10/17/25
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Peachtree Group Real Estate

I am being pitched an investment in this firm's commercial real estate lending by an advisor now. Does anyone have familiarity with this group, or have strong feelings one way or another about the wisdom (or lack thereof) of investing in this space at this point? Pertinent questions I need to have answered ahead of time? My understanding is that there are a lot of hotel and multi family units that they deal with, it would be a dividend/income play (of which I really am under focused). Gracias por su ayuda in advance.

HA (Heineken) is the one to ask. That's in his wheelhouse because he's in that industry. He can give you the best advice and that's who I'd go to.
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In reply to Heineken-Ashi • 11:49a, 10/17/25
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Kool said:
Peachtree Group Real Estate

I am being pitched an investment in this firm's commercial real estate lending by an advisor now. Does anyone have familiarity with this group, or have strong feelings one way or another about the wisdom (or lack thereof) of investing in this space at this point? Pertinent questions I need to have answered ahead of time? My understanding is that there are a lot of hotel and multi family units that they deal with, it would be a dividend/income play (of which I really am under focused). Gracias por su ayuda in advance.


Not enough info. Is it a diversified group of investments? Single term or laddered maturities? New loans or existing?

There you are. I was about to reach out to you but you saw it as I was replying.
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In reply to Heineken-Ashi • 11:51a, 10/17/25
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Heineken-Ashi said:
Kool said:
Peachtree Group Real Estate

I am being pitched an investment in this firm's commercial real estate lending by an advisor now. Does anyone have familiarity with this group, or have strong feelings one way or another about the wisdom (or lack thereof) of investing in this space at this point? Pertinent questions I need to have answered ahead of time? My understanding is that there are a lot of hotel and multi family units that they deal with, it would be a dividend/income play (of which I really am under focused). Gracias por su ayuda in advance.


Not enough info. Is it a diversified group of investments? Single term or laddered maturities? New loans or existing?

My early understanding is mix of hotel and multi family, some other commercial, both new and existing loans but more focus on newer loans. No idea as to single term or laddered, etc. just wanting to get a feel for the space and pertinent questions. Thanks.
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11:53a, 10/17/25
https://therealdeal.com/national/atlanta/2025/07/22/peachtree-capital-launches-250-million-distressed-hotel-fund/

Distressed deals saddled with debt at below market value. High risk high reward. While debt would be first on the Capital stack, it's not immune from losing your investment should these deals not return to performance.

Ask your broker who pitched him on this, what his experience is with this type of product and Peachtree, and what's he's being compensated for advising clients into it.
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11:55a, 10/17/25
Not saying it's good or bad. My firm is buying financially distressed deals right now at above market cap rates. It can be a great play, especially with debt having first rights on the capital stack. But I'd still want a lot more background and info.
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