I'm sure I'm completely out of the loop on this but I just went to a nice restaurant to pickup a to go order and forgot my CC; only had cash. They indicated they no longer take cash.

I've heard of not taking certain bills/coins and not making change but this is my first experience with removing cash payments completely.

Is this a new occurrence and do we think this a trend that will continue?

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Continuing trend.

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Good trend. Even better is contactless. I carry a DL & 1 card now - soon neither will be necessary.

It's all over the place in NYC, which is probably the most extensive market of cashless transactions in the US (ignoring online) but far from the sole standard practice. I see it every now and then in Houston, but it's an exception not norm.

I've actually found more than a couple businesses that have gone to Venmo or other "non-traceable" transaction platforms as preferred or only way to pay. Found that interesting.

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Is that really legal?

"This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private"

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Ever paid cash at Amazon?

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I have at Whole Foods

I ran into this for the first time last weekend at the Paycom Center in OKC. It's totally cashless. It's about time companies joined the 21 century. The only two times I carry cash are after receiving it as a gift for Christmas or my birthday

I also run into many people that don't have checks or ability to get them.

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I ran into this for the first time last weekend at the Paycom Center in OKC. It's totally cashless. It's about time companies joined the 21 century. The only two times I carry cash are after receiving it as a gift for Christmas or my birthday

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Most sports venues have gone cashless. They even provide reverse ATM machines where you put in cash and get a card back.

Have to say I'm starting to (somewhat) resemble that remark. I think I've written one check in the last year. Took dang near forever to find the checkbook.

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Kyle field- the concessions on the west side first deck did not take cash this year. Sent my kid with cash and he came back asking for Cc.

I'm old almost but usually use cash at restaurants. The five or ten minutes it takes to pick up the card and run it then return to the table I can leave the right amount of cash with the bill and be gone.

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Lots of restaurants now run the card right at the table these days. No waiting on them to come back with the card.

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I'm sure I'm completely out of the loop on this but I just went to a nice restaurant to pickup a to go order and forgot my CC; only had cash. They indicated they no longer take cash.

I've heard of not taking certain bills/coins and not making change but this is my first experience with removing cash payments completely.

Is this a new occurrence and do we think this a trend that will continue?

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The amount of money it takes for businesses to incur taking cash far outweighs the very few it inconveniences. Think about the cost of paying armored car service like brinks to replenish the coffers, the cost incurred and trust needed to count down drawers or even out safes. It's a needless expense.

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This is truth. Plus the petty theft expense/risk of keeping it. My industry went cashless a few years ago.

I have yet to personally see this in the retail/restaurant world though. Closest thing I've seen is Spec's 5% discount if you use debit over credit which is sort of against the OP's experience in a roundabout way.

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The small gain in time savings is worth how much? All of your transactional data?

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Eh… I mean let's be grown ups about it yeah? Google ads and the smartphone you carry around everywhere and has lots of data around where you've been, who you know, what you browse… and yes… probably what your purchasing patterns are to an extent. Using cash at the Arby's or at Best Buy vs. you smartphone wallet isn't suddenly going to break the code on your private data. That's all happened already.

It is the price we all pay for 'convenience'.

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No offense but I hate this line of argument and I hear it on here all the time. We can certainly be grown ups about it and acknowledge we've all sacrificed some freedom for convenience to date, but the ongoing war for your data and thus ultimate control over you will get worse from a tyranny perspective.

And this thought process of "F* it; they already have a lot of my data from my phone so I'm just going to give in and let them own me 100%" baffles me. Complete surrender because the powers that be have subtly made it very convenient to give up doesn't sit well with me.

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I'm not arguing '**** it. They have it all anyway.' I am arguing that they have it all because we love the convenience of it in return. This wasn't and isn't driven by the powers that be… it's driven by consumers. If it weren't that way, smartphones wouldn't be near as prolific and Amazon wouldn't be the largest retailer in the world. I know this is a subtle difference in argument… but an important one if you to consider for those that really value their privacy and data.

The post I initially responded to claimed cash is quicker (which I think anybody would be hard pressed to argue). Your post and the other one were (no offense to you and the other post) a little melodramatic. It sounds great but when you take a step back, it really makes no sense that cashless transactions are the line and not every other tech scheme you participate in where you are as much the product as you are the consumer (including Texags). At least with cashless transactions, the businesses are presumably getting some cost savings out of it rather than your data is just an additional revenue stream for them.

Yes. I've been to some when traveling. But none in my home area do. But I did just use my Cc at the to go taco shop and gave Cc to the kid standing outside with the swipe tablet at what a burger.

Cash disappears more in most levels of business.

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The small gain in time savings is worth how much? All of your transactional data?

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Eh… I mean let's be grown ups about it yeah? Google ads and the smartphone you carry around everywhere and has lots of data around where you've been, who you know, what you browse… and yes… probably what your purchasing patterns are to an extent. Using cash at the Arby's or at Best Buy vs. you smartphone wallet isn't suddenly going to break the code on your private data. That's all happened already.

It is the price we all pay for 'convenience'.

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No offense but I hate this line of argument and I hear it on here all the time. We can certainly be grown ups about it and acknowledge we've all sacrificed some freedom for convenience to date, but the ongoing war for your data and thus ultimate control over you will get worse from a tyranny perspective.

And this thought process of "F* it; they already have a lot of my data from my phone so I'm just going to give in and let them own me 100%" baffles me. Complete surrender because the powers that be have subtly made it very convenient to give up doesn't sit well with me.

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There's a taco shop in my hometown that only takes cash and there's a well known pizza place in Little Italy in New York that only takes cash. There are probably many other cash-only restaurants.

How do you tip a valet, bellhop, or line guy without cash? How do you pay cab drivers in Cabo?

I always carry cash, but only use it when I have to.

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How do you tip a valet, bellhop, or line guy without cash?

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That's easy - I never valet or use a bellhop.

I go to a mid-week men's breakfast at my church. 5 years ago, there were baskets on the tables for donations towards food cost. Apparently not many put cash in, so they put a volunteer money changer at the front of the food line with a sign saying something along the lines of "Our food is complimentary, but not free".

Quite a bit of homeless (un-sheltered might be the new term) come for the warm building, food, Bible lesson etc. and the church doesn't want them to feel like they can't eat if they don't have cash - great, no problem. To "combat" that, this semester there's just a QR code at the front of the line. You're supposed to donate/pay for your food online. Big not-happening for me. Average age has to be 60 in this group, I'm curious if it's working.

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There's a taco shop in my hometown that only takes cash and there's a well known pizza place in Little Italy in New York that only takes cash. There are probably many other cash-only restaurants.

How do you tip a valet, bellhop, or line guy without cash? How do you pay cab drivers in Cabo?

I always carry cash, but only use it when I have to.

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Some valet companies are cashless and have been for some time. I ran across one over 5 years ago here in Dallas. It's just an app like everything else these days. However, valet is still my lone use case for cash these days. I typically pull $200-300 at Christmas, and it will last me the entire year.

And I've never ran across a cabbie that wasn't cashless, but I also haven't been to Mexico in many years. The western world has been cashless with cabs for 20 years or more. Granted, I will still find cabbies that get pissed off you opt to not pay them in cash.