Looking for business/investor advice from someone savvy on both..

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AggieFabricator
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Howdy,

I'm hitting a crossroads in my business, where it's either time double down and grow or stay where I'm at. I'm coming up on three years in business, was profitable last year in my second year. Currently doing a little north of half a million or so in sales a year. I'm working on securing a larger shop, which is step one, unfortunately my house burned down a few months back and I'm being told not to borrow any large amounts of money before we start/complete building our new house or it could screw with the financing process. My dads willing to buy the shop for me and rent it to me, with him eventually flipping it when I move on to a bigger shop of my own in the next few years.

One thing I'm needing help on is cash flow, everything I do on paper I show I'm making a 30-40% profit margin, but it just seems like it's money in/money out lately and I think it's because my first year I took a loss on a lot of what I did just trying to get my name out there, I dipped into deposits then, and it got me in a hole. I've since started taking way less of a deposit to avoid this happening, and I've been slowly working my way out of the hole I got into.

Any business advisors on this board who'd be willing to just chat with me? I'm in the process of building for a customer with a large presence, whose going to promote their pit for me on their social media platforms. So I feel this pressure to have a plan in place before this stuff all drops and my waiting list goes to two years again.

Any advice would be appreciated.


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https://www.cnbc.com/the-profit/
Thanks & Gig 'Em
cjsag94
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Your second paragraph is confusing. Are you mixing business financials with personal financials in your information (maybe your business is making 30-40% but your household is still spending more)? Or are you saying your margins are being eliminated by replenishing reserves?

If not, sounds like your books are wrong and that your aren't calculating profit correctly (fully factoring in all business expenses?).
12thMan9
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Why isn't your homeowners insurance paying for the new build?

Your pits look nice, but it appears you have a limited customer base. Seems you might consider a smaller scale version that you can produce quicker & sell.

Just a thought.
Husky Boy Jr.
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Do you have an adequate bookkeeper that is preparing financials for you? Do you manage inventory? Do you take customer deposits? Any major AP or AR balances? Credit cards? Fluctuations in working capital is very common as you grow, particularly if you need to manage inventory. Super important that you have a handle on your accounting. Cash basis (as opposed to accruals) accounting can be misleading to the business health. I'm happy to chat with you - may help - I'll PM you.
ToddyHill
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Absolutely beautiful work.

Question...are used propane tanks of that size readily available? (I'm assuming that's your base raw material).
AggieFabricator
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Husky Boy Jr. said:

Do you have an adequate bookkeeper that is preparing financials for you? Yes.

Do you manage inventory? Yes.

Do you take customer deposits? Yes, 25% down

Any major AP or AR balances? Credit cards? Fluctuations in working capital is very common as you grow, particularly if you need to manage inventory. Super important that you have a handle on your accounting. Cash basis (as opposed to accruals) accounting can be misleading to the business health. I'm happy to chat with you - may help - I'll PM you.
AggieFabricator
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Homeowners insurance is paying for the replacement of the house, but we still have to get a loan from the bank and I was told not borrow/purchase anything significant until we've finished the process.
AggieFabricator
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Business/household financials are 100% separate, I have a CPA and book keeper.
Apache
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IMO, you're in year 3 of what, a 30 year run? Take it slow. We're heading into a recession & you don't want to overextend yourself at the wrong time. You're going to get mad pub for building the pit for _ _ so start inching up your pricing now. I think you're about hit some rarified air. People want bespoke stuff from the absolute best, so present yourself as such. Give your client some merch that he'll wear for his buddies and his viewers to see. You'll be shipping stuff all over the country soon.

If you can borrow money from Dad, do it. How much $ do you take down for your pits? I feel like you should have a nice reserve just sitting there from that.
Do you have quality help ready to step in so quality stays where it is?
Casey TableTennis
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Happy to share what I can. Primarily advise business owners/execs.
AggieFabricator
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Used to be, really starting to get harder to find.
ToddyHill
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Totally agree with your statement. Was strongly urged not to do anything credit card related during the loan process as it could really mess it up.
htxag09
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Is it Truth?
AggieFabricator
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No sir ha. That'd be cool though, I have a lot of respect for Leonard.
htxag09
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Damn....they had a post with a new pit being built recently and could have swore it said CenTex. Think it was a story so can't find it now.
AggieFabricator
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He's a brand ambassador for Mill Scale, that's probably what you saw.
91AggieLawyer
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I consult with small/mid sized businesses like yours. Because my "portfolio" is small (i.e. limited time in venture but been doing a lot of same work under law firm brand), I'd be happy to discuss this with you and we can work something out on the fee (i.e. value added type arrangement).

If interested, email me at skh (underscore) 91 at hotmail. (no spaces, obviously). We can talk further. If I can't help you, or you don't feel its a good fit, I'll see about putting you in touch with someone who can.
BO297
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Look into SCORE mentoring service. It's free and I've heard good things about them.
MPython43
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https://hub.eonetwork.org/web/Web/Accelerator/Accelerator-Home.aspx

If you're near Austin, which I would infer from the name, the EO Accelerator program in Austin is amazing. Check it out. Monthly accountability group with other entrepreneurs coached by a current, mature entrepreneur operating at larger scale and quarterly learning days based around People, Cash, Strategy and Execution.

I've been a coach in the program several times and wish I had found it to join when I was at your stage. If you invest the time and effort into it, it is a total game changer for your business and the way you approach it.

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