So Ethereum devs won't let anyone withdraw their ETH for 12 months after the Merge (if it happens).
— grubles (@notgrubles) August 18, 2022
All while people are pressuring the same devs to censor compliant validators.
That is one hell of a case of Stockholm syndrome.
Allegedly the biggest transition of a not bitcoin thing called ethereum is going through a transition where it will identify as decentralized through a process called proof of stake.
Is anyone actually excited about this transition? Sounds absolutely terrifying to me, especially if I had eth locked up for a year post merge.
Don't expect sympathy. Fortune favors the bold but the opposite isn't far off either.
Someone please tell me I'm being overly cynical.
Different threads on the topic (non twitterers be damned)
Let me try to qualify this tweet. I see seven possible scenarios playing out, and none of them seem both likely and a good outcome. Let me attempt to break it down. Let me know what I'm missing: https://t.co/q3Zc1afKxZ
— Lane "one meme behind" Rettig (@lrettig) August 17, 2022
Scenario 2: We (the privacy and cryptocurrency communities) successfully challenge this likely-unconstitutional decision in court. @coincenter does a good job of breaking down what that might look like here, and the grounds under which it might happen: https://t.co/aBfs0EEYw9
— Lane "one meme behind" Rettig (@lrettig) August 17, 2022
And even if challenging sanctions against an *autonomous smart contract* was successful, other addresses belonging to sanctioned individuals and companies would remain on the list, so we would not have gained much in the grand scheme of things.
— Lane "one meme behind" Rettig (@lrettig) August 17, 2022
Note that, if Ethereum were to continue proof of work mining, the problem of censorship doesn't go away entirely, but it's much less of an issue because PoW miners are mostly outside the USA, and PoW mining is meaningfully decentralized and permissionless.
— Lane "one meme behind" Rettig (@lrettig) August 17, 2022
And Coinbase is not alone here https://t.co/8wn1fRGMkT
— Lane "one meme behind" Rettig (@lrettig) August 17, 2022
Scenario 5. Stuck between a rock (censorship) and a hard place (sanctions violations), Coinbase does the only other possible thing and simply stops validating. If performed as a "voluntary exit", this would mean validator funds are frozen for a while: https://t.co/2C9HlDTot2
— Lane "one meme behind" Rettig (@lrettig) August 17, 2022
That leak could cost Coinbase billions; and losing out on staking rewards by exiting would cost >= millions in lost opportunity cost. Still, this is maybe the most likely outcome that's not a complete and total disaster.
— Lane "one meme behind" Rettig (@lrettig) August 17, 2022
Scenario 6a. We roll over and accept that the OFAC-compliant chain has won. For me and I think many other ecosystem participants, this would mean that we've lost the war. We can pack our bags, go home, and maybe find a real job.
— Lane "one meme behind" Rettig (@lrettig) August 17, 2022
This would 100% lead to a contentious hard fork, and it's possible that the OFAC-compliant fork would win. It would be Ethereum's second "DAO hard fork" moment, but if successful could be pretty excellent. https://t.co/Qy3okhnedT
— Lane "one meme behind" Rettig (@lrettig) August 17, 2022
Scenario 7. Ethereum *somehow* quickly coordinates an upgrade that would allow compliant validators like Coinbase to plausibly claim that they couldn't even see whether the blocks they're validating contain transactions that touch sanctioned addresses.
— Lane "one meme behind" Rettig (@lrettig) August 17, 2022
What am I missing?
— Lane "one meme behind" Rettig (@lrettig) August 17, 2022
Separate thread:
1st issue:
— Miles Suter (@milessuter) August 18, 2022
ETH miners are contentiously preserving the PoW chain.
Bc DeFi & stables are integral to ETH's value prop, issuers like USDC essentially select which chain wins & which collapses.
Scary that future forks live or die based on a US company. https://t.co/qUJp7XAG2l
While separate & concurrent issues, their overlap actually points towards a worse case scenario world which should be prepared for.
— Miles Suter (@milessuter) August 18, 2022
I ask these questions to reduce any future possibility of BTC capture and to highlight impt differences between PoS & PoW.https://t.co/hOn0XJOOn9
Issue 2 shows how PoS, as it currently stands, has a majority of stake that's subject to complying with blacklists - having the validity of certain types of transaction dictated by the regulatory regimes.
— Miles Suter (@milessuter) August 18, 2022
Hardly a "unstoppable world computer.'https://t.co/MYJ6g2O2YF
Lubin courting WEF
Lubin is courting the WEF crowd at Davos in the first line... pic.twitter.com/c42RSjHoSs
— Brandon Quittem (@Bquittem) August 16, 2022
"new regulatory monitoring and enforcement tools" @ethereumJoseph pitching central bankers on using CBDCs to build a digital panopticon 🤮 pic.twitter.com/GurQZkEy93
— Brandon Quittem (@Bquittem) August 16, 2022
Lubin argues that we shouldn't let developing countries turn to digital currencies.
— Brandon Quittem (@Bquittem) August 16, 2022
Instead, we need to force them to use CBDCs giving central bankers "direct influence over all or a portion of the money supply in digital markets" pic.twitter.com/a2bYu4QllT
page 20: lets put the CBDC on a blockchain.
— Brandon Quittem (@Bquittem) August 16, 2022
wait public blockchains actually remove power from central planners, hmm we dont want that
let's just call it a"permissioned blockchain" then we can appear innovative, but ensure the central bank has 100% control over everything pic.twitter.com/AQJA5HAS8k
Lubin and these clowns warn that you better implement a CBDC soon or your citizens might use BTC or ETH. pic.twitter.com/LWOAX2yumb
— Brandon Quittem (@Bquittem) August 16, 2022
Do you want to live in a dystopian-communist-panopticon-techno-state?
— Brandon Quittem (@Bquittem) August 16, 2022
Or a free market-based western liberal order? https://t.co/CMduiDoQXq
Alright. I posted some good reads. I'm gonna be here watching and enjoying the Lulz.
Don't be someone else's exit liquidity.