"A new investment playbook"

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LatinAggie1997
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BlackRock 2023 Global Outlook

https://www.blackrock.com/us/individual/insights/blackrock-investment-institute/outlook


I'm certain that I'm behind the majority of this board on these topics, especially BR, but I did find it Interesting. Gone is the trad 60/40
Inflation and recession still looming, Energy and infrastructure appear to be huge in their plans.

Any other thoughts or insights to share from those with the requisite acumen?
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I have some thoughts that will likely cause derision but here they go:

1. Regulation in crypto will be good and bad but mostly beneficial for mass adoption and price discovery.
2. Crypto ecosystems will create partnerships, be absorbed by others, fail, or be regulated out..
3. Interoperability and separate sectors will begin to distinguish themselves and leave behind tribalism. Example: vehicles- work trucks, sports cars, sedans, SUVs, busses. All are vehicles that fulfill different needs/wants.
4. Banks and hedge funds will start buying failed/failing exchanges to gain more control and more easily bring regulatory compliance. Power grab from the inside.
5. Blockchain will be the immediate and total disruptor once control is held by banks and regulatory agencies.
6. Inefficiencies will be eradicated by the tokenization of securities, property, identification, records, billing, etc.
7. The first movers, adopters and implementers, will have a huge advantage, and I think BlackRock will be positioning itself accordingly.
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Domestically I think we see a consumer recession and a commercial explosion particularly in construction. China is collapsing at an accelerating pace and that's going to cause both of the above. We'll see increased shortages in consumer goods which will lead to higher prices but the only way those products don't vanish forever is if their makers shift production to somewhere more stable. Those that are labor intensive will land elsewhere in Asia or in Mexico and those that lend themselves to automation will land in the US.

I think we continue to see government show favoritism to green energy and punish O&G even as shortages cause massive problems globally particularly in Europe. This could change if we actually see people die from cold due to energy shortages. At that point the politics of energy could shift dramatically.

This is the year we start to see food problems as well. Not in the US mind you but the world can't feed 8 billion people without Russian/Ukrainian wheat and Russian fertilizer and those things are gone for awhile.

How to invest accordingly? Not sure to be honest. Domestic construction materials and contractors is one idea.
The federal government was never meant to be this powerful.
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LatinAggie1997 said:

I have some thoughts that will likely cause derision but here they go:

1. Regulation in crypto will be good and bad but mostly beneficial for mass adoption and price discovery.
2. Crypto ecosystems will create partnerships, be absorbed by others, fail, or be regulated out..
3. Interoperability and separate sectors will begin to distinguish themselves and leave behind tribalism. Example: vehicles- work trucks, sports cars, sedans, SUVs, busses. All are vehicles that fulfill different needs/wants.
4. Banks and hedge funds will start buying failed/failing exchanges to gain more control and more easily bring regulatory compliance. Power grab from the inside.
5. Blockchain will be the immediate and total disruptor once control is held by banks and regulatory agencies.
6. Inefficiencies will be eradicated by the tokenization of securities, property, identification, records, billing, etc.
7. The first movers, adopters and implementers, will have a huge advantage, and I think BlackRock will be positioning itself accordingly.



What does #3 mean?
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LOYAL AG said:

Domestically I think we see a consumer recession and a commercial explosion particularly in construction. China is collapsing at an accelerating pace and that's going to cause both of the above. We'll see increased shortages in consumer goods which will lead to higher prices but the only way those products don't vanish forever is if their makers shift production to somewhere more stable. Those that are labor intensive will land elsewhere in Asia or in Mexico and those that lend themselves to automation will land in the US.

I think we continue to see government show favoritism to green energy and punish O&G even as shortages cause massive problems globally particularly in Europe. This could change if we actually see people die from cold due to energy shortages. At that point the politics of energy could shift dramatically.

This is the year we start to see food problems as well. Not in the US mind you but the world can't feed 8 billion people without Russian/Ukrainian wheat and Russian fertilizer and those things are gone for awhile.

How to invest accordingly? Not sure to be honest. Domestic construction materials and contractors is one idea.


The next 5-10 years could be a make or break time period. You have significant re-shoring and near shoring occurring...I think more so than people give credit to and it's going to take years to re-stabilize. While that gets moved around and built up we are going to continue experiencing whipsaw supply chain effects that no one alive has really seen outside of a few WWII people still around.

China has already lost over 5 points of manufacturing market share in the last couple of years as companies exit China. It's entirely too unstable there and Xi is going even more hardcore autocratic.

Agree with most of the things already stated. I'm not yet convinced blockchain outside of crypto is going to find a use case that is widely adopted anytime soon. I still haven't seen anything IRL with blockchain. I've read up on the theoretical use cases for it but no one is really doing much with it that I'm aware of. I've admittedly checked out on it for a while though so I'm probably wrong here.

Wondering if Toyota is going to be a good bet since they are zigging whenever else is zagging on the EV front. They are betting full EV is impossible and will fail.
LatinAggie1997
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For survival and utility (security/speed) ecosystems will be interoperable and many will become partner/side chains of others. There are currently over 20,000 tokens. Most will fail, be regulated out, be absorbed by other ecosystems, or work together (interoperability).
The remaining ecosystems (my guess is less than 12 by 2030) will have specific niches/use cases that set them apart from the others - think Amazon, FB, Alphabet, Apple, Tesla, John Deere, Netflix ...yet also sharing/competing in the space like routers do for internet.
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LatinAggie1997 said:

For survival and utility (security/speed) ecosystems will be interoperable and many will become partner/side chains of others. There are currently over 20,000 tokens. Most will fail, be regulated out, be absorbed by other ecosystems, or work together (interoperability).
The remaining ecosystems (my guess is less than 12 by 2030) will have specific niches/use cases that set them apart from the others - think Amazon, FB, Alphabet, Apple, Tesla, John Deere, Netflix ...yet also sharing/competing in the space like routers do for internet.


Gotcha. I get that on tokens. That is inevitable. What you are seeing right now is the natural war that happens when there is no standard with much vaporware out there. Most stuff is going to fail as the winners rise to the top.

I was confused by the cars example with this. Are you saying same thing for cars? As in we are going to see even more brands go under (eg Pontiac) and consolidate to fewer and fewer brands? Could see that for sure. Related example I was reading about some time ago is that we are seeing more and more white cars simply because that is the most available color and manufacturers now charge $500 for any other color outside of a core 3-4. So it reduces variability in colors out there.

I wanted a dark gray version of my car and ended up with white simply because I didn't want to wait for a gray one to come around. And this was in 2016 before all of the current madness.
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I believe we will see a weakening $, leading to strong international returns (debt and equity) for US investors. Certainly expect this over next 3 years, last couple of months have already started to show it.

Schwab's CIO recently dubbed domestic economic climate at a rolling recession, where 1-2 sectors at a time experience a recession without the entire eco only sinking into a deep or prolonged recession. I think there is some validity to this notion, but if rate hikes continue much longer I don't see how we avoid more economic pain than this view.

Speaking of rates, I do anticipate the Fed will soften pretty steadily over coming months. Monthly inflation should continue to be better than the prior year monthly print most of the next 6 months. This will steadily match year over year inflation lower, allowing the Fed to slow the tightening cycle even if labor market remains strong.

Supply/material/labor/commodity markets all remain stressed, which will lead to continued inflation in pockets, but all of these are materially better than a year ago from an inflation creation perspective. Especially with stimulus still some much less, velocity of money seemingly lower, and rates/cap rates higher, wealth effects are in reverse right now further suggesting inflation pressures will continue to steadily wane.

YouBet referenced onshoring and near shoring. I think of near shoring as friend shoring. Either way, more of the supply chain must and will come from domestic/friendly locales. This should be a new element of cost increase hopefully offset by less disruptions in the future, lesser shipping (both cost and time), and typical efficient gains over time.

The friend shoring/near shoring is interesting as it could simply be a rotation within international markets/economies more than a tide change. Valuations and yield differential continue to be about 99th percentile of cheapness internationally, so a lot of cushion to be wrong/early here, even without $ weakening.

Within fixed income, have been shoring up yield and risk. For years have been tilted to short duration. And held non-traditional bond like holdings. Now reentering duration plays and considering when to dial away from credit/floating/other.
LatinAggie1997
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The cars was a poor and incomplete example.
It should have included that ecosystems will all offer vehicles but that some will be more centered around specific types - sedans, sports, work, etc.
Imagine dealerships. The used car section has a variety of used vehicle types. However, if you own a company that requires hauling tools around you will go to Dealership W (Work) as they will have the best selection. If you want options of foreign high performance vehicles you go to Dealership S (Sports), or need a family sedan you choose Dealership F (family).

Crypto - a few will be specialized in DeFi, othets NFTs, some in gaming, some in web3, etc.

White cars - hold value more, iirc half the vehicles from Asia (esp Japan) arrive in white.
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LatinAggie1997 said:

5. Blockchain will be the immediate and total disruptor once control is held by banks and regulatory agencies.
6. Inefficiencies will be eradicated by the tokenization of securities, property, identification, records, billing, etc.
7. The first movers, adopters and implementers, will have a huge advantage, and I think BlackRock will be positioning itself accordingly.

Addressing these specific points...

Blockchain as a fad has already come and gone. There was widespread enthusiasm and investment flowing to blockchain projects in all sorts of industries maybe five years ago. That has largely fizzled out. The trendy job postings in tech are now AI focused.

Blockchain does not provide a better mousetrap for managing lists of data than a plain old database administered by a trusted party. Securities already trade efficiently at ultra-low cost, sometimes free. Most people go years between buying and selling titled property. The inefficiencies in billing, invoicing, and record keeping are largely matters of protocol, not persistence; they're solvable problems with incumbent technology.
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LatinAggie1997 said:

The cars was a poor and incomplete example.
It should have included that ecosystems will all offer vehicles but that some will be more centered around specific types - sedans, sports, work, etc.
Imagine dealerships. The used car section has a variety of used vehicle types. However, if you own a company that requires hauling tools around you will go to Dealership W (Work) as they will have the best selection. If you want options of foreign high performance vehicles you go to Dealership S (Sports), or need a family sedan you choose Dealership F (family).

Crypto - a few will be specialized in DeFi, othets NFTs, some in gaming, some in web3, etc.

White cars - hold value more, iirc half the vehicles from Asia (esp Japan) arrive in white.
Gotcha.

On bold, I wonder if this is a self-fulfilling prophecy to some degree though....
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TriAg2010 said:

LatinAggie1997 said:

5. Blockchain will be the immediate and total disruptor once control is held by banks and regulatory agencies.
6. Inefficiencies will be eradicated by the tokenization of securities, property, identification, records, billing, etc.
7. The first movers, adopters and implementers, will have a huge advantage, and I think BlackRock will be positioning itself accordingly.

Addressing these specific points...

Blockchain as a fad has already come and gone. There was widespread enthusiasm and investment flowing to blockchain projects in all sorts of industries maybe five years ago. That has largely fizzled out. The trendy job postings in tech are now AI focused.

Blockchain does not provide a better mousetrap for managing lists of data than a plain old database administered by a trusted party. Securities already trade efficiently at ultra-low cost, sometimes free. Most people go years between buying and selling titled property. The inefficiencies in billing, invoicing, and record keeping are largely matters of protocol, not persistence; they're solvable problems with incumbent technology.
Kind of where I was going earlier. I went to an Innovation conference back in 2017. IBM spoke at it and at the time they shared that fully 1/3 of their R&D was devoted solely to blockchain. I wonder what that number is in 2023. I bet that percentage has been scaled back, but I don't know for sure.

In 2018, I went to a Supply Chain VC incubator event in Silicon Valley. Almost 100% of the pitches were blockchain use cases and almost all of them were geared towards the environment which might be part of the problem. I personally don't give a rat's ass about green issues for my supply chain the way these people think about it.

If everyone pitching ideas for blockchain are focused on arguably make believe problems, then that might be the reason why we haven't seen much of anything come to market (To be fair, I'm sure COVID set things back for any actual go to market ideas.) I'm all for conservation and efficiency but talk to me when you are actually addressing that with your use case and not politically driven green ideas.

The one cursory interesting use case that was presented that is still largely irrelevant to the public was one where these guys were going to use blockchain to confirm and validate where the beans in your coffee came from. In other words, they were going to be able to accurately tell you your coffee beans came from Hill 4 on Pedro's Coffee Farm in Bolivia. Again, no one really gives a damn about this outside of coffee snobs but it was at least relatable.
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I happen to think banking, especially ACH, is antiquated and burdensome due to lack of speed. I also believe we will see DID (Digital I.D.) soon and that will expedite and streamline an entire aspect of our lives.

I am ok being wrong with what I've invested, but I would live with great regret believing in something and not taking the chance.

https://fortune.com/2022/12/01/blackrocks-larry-fink-predicts-most-crypto-firms-fold-wake-ftx-collapse-but-wont-be-end-defi/
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LatinAggie1997 said:

I happen to think banking, especially ACH, is antiquated and burdensome due to lack of speed. I also believe we will see DID (Digital I.D.) soon and that will expedite and streamline an entire aspect of our lives.

I am ok being wrong with what I've invested, but I would live with great regret believing in something and not taking the chance.

https://fortune.com/2022/12/01/blackrocks-larry-fink-predicts-most-crypto-firms-fold-wake-ftx-collapse-but-wont-be-end-defi/
I will say that this isn't a prescient view by him. Of course most of them will fail. When I last checked there were somewhere in the neighborhood of 5K crypto options out there clamoring for a toehold in the market. Most of those are vaporware, scams, or simply won't make it because of the natural law of capitalism. It's a total wild west frontier with little to no regulation.

Elon Musk pushed one out of sheer trolling and the early entrants that cashed out at the right time made some money but it had no use case. Pure troll coin.

Once that regulation sets in and winners start rising to the top you will see 4,950 of those options fail. But, yes, you would hope ACH and SWIFT get replaced. SWIFT is a ****show. Dealt with that all of one time and couldn't get paid through it so we gave up on it and went to ACH. Only reason SWIFT was being used as a first option was because my client was international and that was the process.
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I believe IBM has completely abandoned the blockchain efforts as have just about every other industrial that said they were doing something. Posted it in thr group last night.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/blockchain-fails-to-gain-traction-in-the-enterprise-11671057528
What bitcoin’s detractors don’t understand is monetary economics, computer science, software engineering, network protocols, and electrical systems.

It ain't much, but it's honest Proof of Work.
LatinAggie1997
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Vechain will accomplish what IBM/Maersk (TradeLens) couldn't....possibly Cardano as well (wine).
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If if if if if


If vechain finds a way to work, we get coffee bean and banana logistics? I mean, right now they seem to be focusing on the dumb low fruit of NFTs.
What bitcoin’s detractors don’t understand is monetary economics, computer science, software engineering, network protocols, and electrical systems.

It ain't much, but it's honest Proof of Work.
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Adverse Event said:

I believe IBM has completely abandoned the blockchain efforts as have just about every other industrial that said they were doing something. Posted it in thr group last night.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/blockchain-fails-to-gain-traction-in-the-enterprise-11671057528
Except for inventory tracking, for which WMT reigns supreme, its not clear the need for blockchain on perishables in the long run. In the year 2050, does the industry (government?) really need to know that a particular farm produced 3M eggs during 2032 and track those eggs over time? While useful for the wholesalers and retailers (and government), the producer doesn't really need that information today and certainly not in 25 years
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Casey TableTennis said:

I believe we will see a weakening $, leading to strong international returns (debt and equity) for US investors. Certainly expect this over next 3 years, last couple of months have already started to show it.
I think USD will stay strong relative to other currencies with continued high interest rates (high relative to the last 15 years), safety, certainty and versus other sovereigns. US still looks like the safest port in the storm even if consumer demand is drying up. That being said, when consumer stop spending, which I think will happen during 1H 2023 and start paying back these debts, I think you could see some real pressure on corporate profits made worse for some companies due to the strong dollar.
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