What should I do with my money? (long thread, sorry)

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Sorry for the long thread, but I am feeling like I am having somewhat of a financial mid-life crisis, like I just don't know what I'm doing (or what to do) anymore, so some of this is just going to be rambling. I just turned 34. Back when I got out of school a little over 10 years ago, I was very diligent (at least I thought so) about trying to spread out wealth and diversify where my money was going, although I have never been very good at it. But lately (like for the past 3-4 years) I've really been checked out on that front and focusing on nothing but my work/career. I have not been diligent about actively trying to grow my wealth, other than through just working.

I have a 401k that I initially didn't max out because I was stupid, but I do now because I'm fortunate enough that a small fraction of my salary will max it out without me really even noticing. I'm not even sure what the balance is. Maybe in the neighborhood of $300,000, but I guess that's not relevant since I can't do anything with it anyway.

I have an equities account with Schwab that I play around in from time to time. I have a bunch of AAPL stock and then a few other reliable ones as my main holdings, and then I buy and sell short term in smaller increments, with inconsistent success. I used to have more in there, but the value has dwindled down to around $150,000 now because I've moved cash out to do other things, plus the market has sucked. I haven't even made a trade in that account in over a year now.

I used to have a backdoor Roth IRA through Betterment with around $70k in it, but the growth was absurdly bad, like it literally only grew $5000 in 10 years even though I was maxing it out at $6,000 a year or whatever the limit was. So I closed it out and put the cash toward a new house, which saved way more in mortgage interest than the penalty cost me. So now that is gone.

I have a couple of rental houses that I own in the range of $250k value that each pay $2,500 a month. I have notes on both of those, but they cash flow plenty to cover the note, taxes, insurance, and all other expenses.

I own a couple of undeveloped properties that have a combined value of about $200k. I bought those for cash, so no note, but they aren't ag except, so I do have to pay regular taxes on them every year. That always sucks, but the taxes have been well worth the appreciation thus far, and they're in a hot market where I could sell pretty much whenever I wanted.

The rental houses and undeveloped lots have been great, but they kind of just fell into my lap from opportunities I became aware of through friends or family. I am not a very knowledgeable real estate investor, and I don't see these as repeatable things that I could just duplicate on demand. With my job, I don't have much time to learn and go search for/look at properties.

I do have a wife and a couple of young kids now. We have one of those Texas Tuition Promise Fund things that is 3/4 paid for. I guess I will pay off the last 2 semesters so that at least one of the kids' tuition will be fully paid for, but I'm not so sure they're that good of a deal honestly. The 6 semesters of credits I've purchased so far have cost me around $8,200 each on average, so $49,000 for 3 years of guaranteed tuition give or take (around $66,000 total after I pay off the rest).. My kids are all still at least 12 years out from college so maybe somebody with college-aged kids will tell me this is a great deal, but it seems like a lot given the current cost of tuition.

My home is paid off as of a couple of years ago. I have no debt at all, other than the two notes on the rental houses.

Right now I am just accumulating cash, and I have about $450,000 that is just sitting in my bank account accomplishing absolutely nothing. I know I am neglecting my future and my family's future by just sitting on this cash and not doing anything with it, and it makes me sick thinking about it. This sounds stupid, but the more I have, the less I want to think about it because I'm just out of ideas. I guess I need to open a 529 and should have done that years ago. But beyond that, what do I do?

Should I find a financial advisor, consolidate my cash with my Schwab account, and let them put it in the market and manage it for me? Should I sell those undeveloped properties and have all of that in cash being managed too? Should I just put it in a CD?

On top of all of the above, both of my parents up there in age and are not doing well (I'm not that old, but I'm the youngest in my family), and I stand to get several million and some more real estate when they both pass. I just don't even know what to do with that.

Any thoughts or direction from anybody would be sincerely appreciated.
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Sounds like you are doing better than 99.99999 percent of the people in the world.

Enjoy life, you will be fine financially no matter what with what you are currently doing
not hedge
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Lmao this is such a humble brag Texags thread
rabbott20
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Can't tell if serious or legitimately battling a mental health crisis. If you are actually concerned/anxious about your finances despite very clearly being in the top 1% you should focus on your participation in your local church and find a good counselor. Your family is going to be fine financially.
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rabbott20 said:

Can't tell if serious or legitimately battling a mental health crisis. If you are actually concerned/anxious about your finances despite very clearly being in the top 1% you should focus on your participation in your local church and find a good counselor. Your family is going to be fine financially.

It's not really a crisis. That was probably the wrong word. Also, I should have added in my OP that my goal is complete financial independence. My job pays pretty well, but it is stressful, and I don't think I can do it for another 20 years. I'm just looking for some advice on how I can start moving towards a place where my cash/assets work to grow themselves, and I'm not going into the office every day stressing myself out and missing time with my family. I've read on here many times that there is no reason to be sitting on as much cash as I currently have. I agree. But what should I do with it? I am actually looking for guidance/ideas and not trying to brag. I don't know how to do it other than posting some specifics about my situation so somebody reading this can hopefully provide some insight that fits where I am, There's plenty more I could post if I was trying to brag.
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Dude you are 34 that's not a mid life crisis !! If all this is true you are better off than almost everyone…….. in the world!!!
Seriously, just do some self reflection and relax. Nothing is going to derail your empire in the next 6-12 months.


I would be very careful turning over that amount of money to anyone to invest or manage for me. They will never care about it as much as you do.

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Hey op, at the bare minimum I would take that 450k in cash and put it in a HYS account. Marcus at Goldman Sachs is paying around 3.3%, is completely liquid unlike a CD. That should bring around 15k in interest a yr
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I won't give you advice... but I'll tell you what I'd do in a similar situation...

When you get frozen to do anything, it is best to set things up on automatic.

I wouldn't jump everything in one fund... I'd diversify my cash and assets and dollar cost average into markets.

I'd start with restarting back IRA's for tax deferred benefit... and buying full amount of ibonds for quick interest payments. I would probably even balance college assets with a 529.

My goal is to keep semi equal amounts between biz assets, stocks/bonds, land & cash equivalents... I'd build the long term plan and set up auto withdrawals to get my 5/10 year plan underway now. If the market tanks, then you can DCA to take advantage.

It is easy to be indecisive and frozen in an overall market that doesn't seem to have direction... but there might be a lot of missed opportunities.
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Do you and your wife have any goals? Anything you want to save for, buy, etc? What is important to you?
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10andBOUNCE said:

Do you and your wife have any goals? Anything you want to save for, buy, etc? What is important to you?

Our principal goal in life is to raise intelligent, confident, self-sufficient, conservative Christian children who do not vote for democrats.

Other than that, our only goal is to make plenty to retire on and plenty to leave to our kids. Maybe that's part of my problem is that I'm not really working toward anything tangible anymore. For several years after law school, everything was planned around eventually buying my "dream house," which I knew would cost about $1 million to get everything I wanted. But now I have that, and it's paid off. I'm not the kind of guy who needs vacation houses or second homes. I just like hanging out at home, working out, sitting in the pool, playing video games, etc. Maybe I need a new tangible goal.
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OP is a 13 year old trolling. If not, my oh my…
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Definitely a troll at this point, he jumped the shark with his last post.
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JohnLA762
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You're doing great.

If you're worried about putting money to work, put 5% into DIA or SPY every month for the next 20 months. It pays dividends and just don't worry about it for 10 years.

In the long horizon, the market always goes up because the economy is expanding.
You don’t trade for money, you trade for freedom.
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I am always wrong said:

10andBOUNCE said:

Do you and your wife have any goals? Anything you want to save for, buy, etc? What is important to you?

…For several years after law school, everything was planned around eventually buying my "dream house," which I knew would cost about $1 million to get everything I wanted. But now I have that, and it's paid off.


tangent… tell us about your dream house? my 'dream house' looks a lot different at 42 than it did at 24 or 34… I still don't know what I want when I grow up. or where I want it.
LMCane
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so why not just type "I have some cash, what should I do with it"

instead of posting Tolstoy's final three chapters?
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Username checks out.
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MRB10
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4,300 posts since August 2021

Hi there, Mr. Barnes.
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10andBOUNCE
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If I were you, my first action would be to max out both you and your wife's IRAs.

After that I would take some time to come up with your estate planning documents (will, trusts, etc). Assuming you haven't done that yet.

Beyond that, you and your wife need to dream a little and figure out how you want your money to work for you and your goals. Maybe opening a few UTMA accounts for your kids might be worth looking into.
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That's a ton of money and investments for a 34 year old. I was expecting this to be a dire situation, lol.
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For a minute there I thought I was reading about myself but then I saw the user name
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You are 34 and have 1.1M in stock/cash/property + your kid's college funds + your house you own outright + two rental properties that cash flow. You are either a) trolling, or b) just fine. Relax and enjoy your life. You win. Make sure you find something of purpose to pursue now to feel fulfilled.
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If this is a real post and assume you work at biglaw given your post although starting at 24 seems tight.

I think you and your wife need to sit down and decide what you both want out of life (long vacations, time with kids, second home/ranch, ability to leave money to kids) and how much money that takes and how much cash flow you need to pull the cord when free.

There are a lot of people that focus with great intensity on a fixed net worth number but do not think much past that and when they get there they have a level of disappointment in that there are no fire works and a parade.


I had a number in mind that I wanted to hit at 40 and hit it at 38. My problem is I had focused on the number and not i) what was i going to do next ii) how much cash flow/spending I would need if I wanted to downcycle in my career and iii) what I wanted to do next.

You really need to put those together and you will find something more fulfilling.
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