Class of '23 here. Graduated in December of '22. My boss just told me that having Texas A&M on my degree doesn't mean anything compared to having a degree from anywhere else. I work in sales. Thoughts?
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Sounds like he's just butthurt about his Stephen F. Austin Community College degree
Besides the fact that what your boss said is objectively false, it does sound like they might have a bit of regret about their own choice of a school. Let it roll right off.. or, better yet, go work with Aggies.
For your day to day work, it doesn't.
It's been helpful though networking and in certain conversations for sure.
It's been helpful though networking and in certain conversations for sure.
He's right.
He is right. I have met not so smart Aggies, horns, Harvard grads in my lifetime.
Why are you worrying about their opinion? We used to sell Aggie joke books that made fun of ourselves. Let it roll off. You'll find things go much better for you in life if you do.
Doesn't matter in sales.
I had a boss tell me that once. He ended up working for me a few years later. Just grind, it'll sort itself out.
I also find it funny that the posters above that agreed with him have no Ag Tag. Yet here they are.
Comeby! said:
I also find it funny that the posters above that agreed with him have no Ag Tag. Yet here they are.
I'm an Aggie. Doesn't make me better than someone who went into the military or to another school. What you do after college matters a lot more than what school your high school grades got you into.
Ah, bullsheet. On average, Texas Aggies do better than other schools. We are not the same.
You'll run across someone like that occasionally. My last one went to Southwest (now TSU).
I quit in record time and his Aggie boss fired him four weeks later.
I quit in record time and his Aggie boss fired him four weeks later.
Absolutely. I'll always feel like many of the deals I've made work and the ability to get financed when I needed to were in part due to the Aggie degree.
Quite an odd post.....
I mean Aggies aren't excluded from being ass hats. I've met many. Hell, just peruse this site.
So....being a recent grad, were you being an ass hat? My team has a new hire (Aggie), who started in the summer and by September she was asking when she'd be promoted, part of her reason was she was an Aggie grad so the work she was doing was beneath her (buyer, where I also started). So...in her case, no, her degree didn't mean **** compared to anyone else.
Similarly, others can be ass hats. So is entirely possible that what other posters are saying is true and the dude is just bitter.
I mean Aggies aren't excluded from being ass hats. I've met many. Hell, just peruse this site.
So....being a recent grad, were you being an ass hat? My team has a new hire (Aggie), who started in the summer and by September she was asking when she'd be promoted, part of her reason was she was an Aggie grad so the work she was doing was beneath her (buyer, where I also started). So...in her case, no, her degree didn't mean **** compared to anyone else.
Similarly, others can be ass hats. So is entirely possible that what other posters are saying is true and the dude is just bitter.
I sold for about ten years to primarily Longhorn grads. Having an Aggie education helped me because so many of their kids went to A&M. They all said College Station today is like Austin in the 60s and 70s. They wouldn't send their kids there today.
To add some context, the discussion was about my commitment to a future with the company. I conveyed that I have a degree from A&M and I hope to be successful, so I was looking for assurance that as my performance and experience grow so will my compensation.
I'm old so take this for what it's worth. I think the network connections are diminishing as the university is so large and attracting a different student today.
Agreed.
PineCurtainAg said:
To add some context, the discussion was about my commitment to a future with the company. I conveyed that I have a degree from A&M and I hope to be successful, so I was looking for assurance that as my performance and experience grow so will my compensation.
Did you actually tell him that?
This definitely adds some context. Was the convo topic brought up by them to you? Are they questioning your performance? Were you trying to lay the ground work for a pay bump/signaling that you're going to be a flight risk if you don't get compensated in your mind?PineCurtainAg said:
To add some context, the discussion was about my commitment to a future with the company. I conveyed that I have a degree from A&M and I hope to be successful, so I was looking for assurance that as my performance and experience grow so will my compensation.
PineCurtainAg said:
Class of '23 here. Graduated in December of '22. My boss just told me that having Texas A&M on my degree doesn't mean anything compared to having a degree from anywhere else. I work in sales. Thoughts?
What I 'think' he's trying to say is along the lines of - congrats on getting the job, your A&M degree got you in the door. Now, it's on you to perform. Companies aren't going to look at a degree to dole out compensation. Time to close those deals my friend.
They want me to commit to the company long term before they are willing to invest more into my training/traveling.
How are they wanting you to commit to the company long term?PineCurtainAg said:
They want me to commit to the company long term before they are willing to invest more into my training/traveling.
This is what I'm trying to say. I used to run into it all the time with new grads. There's 20,000 aggies graduating next year. There's more to you than just where you got your degree from. If an aggie comes into my office to sell me something, I'll always listen but it just gets you in the door. What you do from there on out is up to you.QBCade said:PineCurtainAg said:
Class of '23 here. Graduated in December of '22. My boss just told me that having Texas A&M on my degree doesn't mean anything compared to having a degree from anywhere else. I work in sales. Thoughts?
What I 'think' he's trying to say is along the lines of - congrats on getting the job, your A&M degree got you in the door. Now, it's on you to perform. Companies aren't going to look at a degree to dole out compensation. Time to close those deals my friend.
your degree (can) help get you the job, but throwing it out there as some flex to your boss is a silly move.
Just put your head down and get the job done.
Just put your head down and get the job done.
Sounds like a weird dynamic, but I am curious as well. Wonder if this company is smaller and/or has been burned by former employees in this realm.htxag09 said:How are they wanting you to commit to the company long term?PineCurtainAg said:
They want me to commit to the company long term before they are willing to invest more into my training/traveling.
I think the reason it rubbed me the wrong way is because I was thinking about how much earning that degree meant to me, but I can't expect everyone share my own personal view.
They don't want me to use my current position in my current office as a stepping stone to a different position within the company.
PineCurtainAg said:
I think the reason it rubbed me the wrong way is because I was thinking about how much earning that degree meant to me, but I can't expect everyone share my own personal view.
Nothing wrong with being proud of TAMU and getting your degree, in fact, I encourage it. However, your performance is going to determine your comp.
Sounds like a subpar boss and/or system at the company. They should want to develop you to give the most return to the company. A good boss should be able to ask and support an employee on career aspirations. But the employee needs to also be respectful of time in and out of all of that.PineCurtainAg said:
They don't want me to use my current position in my current office as a stepping stone to a different position within the company.
That being said, take heart to what QBCade just said. A degree from one place vs. another can be beneficial at getting you in the door, but mainly closer to the graduation date. Over time it holds less sway and personal networking and performance is much, much more important.
PineCurtainAg said:
I think the reason it rubbed me the wrong way is because I was thinking about how much earning that degree meant to me, but I can't expect everyone share my own personal view.
Put that same fervor into your job and it won't matter if the degree is from ITT Tech, you will be successful!
If you're good at what you do, a company will incentivize you to stay. You have to show up and get it done.
This is where your spectacular negotiating skills come into play.PineCurtainAg said:
They don't want me to use my current position in my current office as a stepping stone to a different position within the company.
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I'll give the dissenting opinion: while i agree that your alma mater matters less and less to others the longer you've been out, and your performance ultimately dictates your future, having a boss who is insecure and takes jabs at you can be severely limiting to your career, especially early on. Tell them whatever they want to hear to get the opportunities to learn and advance in this role/organization, but make sure and add that stuff to your resume and don't overlook other opportunities when they come up.
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