Rule of 55 questions

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RightWingConspirator
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Some of the verbiage on this rule is confusing to me and figured someone on here could clarify. I am 53 years old and wish to retire today, but will likely work a little while longer because, frankly, I'm not sure what to do with myself or my time in retirement just yet. The rule as I read it and understood it is I need to retire from my employer in the year I turn 55 in order to access 401k funds penalty free. Does this mean if I have a birthday in December I could retire in January of the same year at 54 because I will turn 55 later that same calendar year?

To head anyone off at the pass and avoid a small derailment, I have plenty of cash available to me to where I would not need to access the 401k monies at all until way later in life. I have in my brokerage account just as much money as my 401k. Each account is fairly substantial and I could live off of either one very easily for at least the next 10-12 years. Add on top of that a pension which would be almost equal to the amount I hold in either the brokerage account or my 401k. I just want to make sure I've got the 401k monies available to me if some unforeseen event necessitated its use. So could I work till I'm 54 and retire in the same year I turn 55 or do I need to work until I'm 55 then retire?

Your help is much appreciated!
redaszag99
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The IRS Rule of 55 is an exception to the standard 10% early withdrawal penalty on retirement plan distributions, allowing individuals who leave their job in or after the year they turn 55 to access funds from their most recent employer's 401(k) or 403(b) plan without the penalty.
Key Requirements
To use the Rule of 55, you must meet specific criteria:
Separation from Service: You must leave your job (whether by quitting, being laid off, or being fired) during or after the calendar year you turn 55.
Eligible Plan: The rule applies to 401(k), 403(b), and governmental 457(b) plans. It does not apply to traditional or Roth IRAs.
Funds Remain in the Plan: The money you wish to access must stay in the former employer's plan. If you roll the funds over into an IRA, you lose the ability to use the Rule of 55 for those specific funds.
Plan Allows Withdrawals: Your employer's plan must permit in-service distributions or post-separation withdrawals. Some plans may require a lump-sum withdrawal, while others allow a series of payments.
Important Considerations
Taxes Still Apply: While the 10% penalty is waived, withdrawals from a traditional 401(k) are still subject to ordinary income tax. This can affect your tax bracket for the year.
Public Safety Workers: Qualified public safety workers (e.g., firefighters, police officers, EMTs) may be able to access funds as early as age 50.
Future Employment: You can get another job after using the Rule of 55 and continue taking penalty-free withdrawals from the previous employer's plan.
Alternatives: Other options for accessing retirement funds early without penalty exist, such as through a series of substantially equal periodic payments (SEPP, or 72(t) distributions) or for specific reasons like a qualified medical expense exceeding 7.5% of AGI.
RightWingConspirator
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Thank you. I read it that I could retire at 54 penalty free inasmuch as I will be 55 the same calendar year that I retire. I used AI to confirm my assumption and it told me I was wrong;, hence why I ask the question.
permabull
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Before doing this I would verify with your 401k provider that they allow you to make multiple distributions. I have seen 401k plan that only allow you to make 1 distribution or roll over.

Ideally you can can take just what you need for age 55 to 59 but some plans don't allow that. If your plan is set up that way you can always look into 72t distributions but hopefully your plan allows multiple distributions.
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RightWingConspirator said:

Thank you. I read it that I could retire at 54 penalty free inasmuch as I will be 55 the same calendar year that I retire. I used AI to confirm my assumption and it told me I was wrong;, hence why I ask the question.

All this got me to thinking about this situation, and my recollection (which probably isn't reliable, lol) was that you had to be 55 when you separated from service. So, I used AI and was told yes you did have to have attained age 55 when you separated from service to avoid the penalty. Having had issues previously with AI, I then asked a slightly different way and was told no, if you separate at 54, and within that calendar year you turn 55, no penalty.

That's the thing with AI, particularly with something as nuanced as tax law. It is basically a really fast search engine, and it will provide a lot of information and references, but still might be incorrect. I have found three or four outright errors, one was in the area of depreciation as it pertained to my own tax return. If you keep tweaking the question, it eventually got the right answer.

Additionally, it is providing an answer based on what is out there publicly. I was helping someone with the recent repeal of the GPO and WEP offset as it applies to social security benefits for teachers and some other occupations and an answer I got was wrong based on everything else I had read and researched. Come to find out, what it was providing was based on some things in the version of the bill prior to the final bill that was signed. What AI grabbed was in the public domain, but not in the final version of the bill, so it didn't apply.

As the other poster noted, you cannot roll the qualified plan into an IRA and utilize the rule of 55.

Also, as he or she pointed out, the substantially equal periodic payment exception might be of help. I had several people utilize that over the years.
RightWingConspirator
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Thank you for this response. This is what I needed. Thankfully we're not in a situation where I'd need to access that money, but I'd like the option to do it.
OldArmyCT
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If you're keeping the $ in the plan instead of rolling it to an IRA you should pose this question to your company. While each plan adheres to the IRS rules they are allowed to impose their own rules and not all plans are accessible.
permabull
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OldArmyCT said:

If you're keeping the $ in the plan instead of rolling it to an IRA you should pose this question to your company. While each plan adheres to the IRS rules they are allowed to impose their own rules and not all plans are accessible.


Agree. Like I mentioned before, some plans only allow one distribution total so if OP was planning on taking say 100k a year from age 55 to 59 then rolling the rest of the balance to an IRA after that, some plans might not allow that.

Just because the IRS allows something doesn't mean all plans offer it.
stu.pidarse
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If you have any company stock that has appreciated in your 401k, highly recommend you understand NUA rules before making any distribution from that 401k account.
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one safe place said:

RightWingConspirator said:

Thank you. I read it that I could retire at 54 penalty free inasmuch as I will be 55 the same calendar year that I retire. I used AI to confirm my assumption and it told me I was wrong;, hence why I ask the question.

All this got me to thinking about this situation, and my recollection (which probably isn't reliable, lol) was that you had to be 55 when you separated from service. So, I used AI and was told yes you did have to have attained age 55 when you separated from service to avoid the penalty. Having had issues previously with AI, I then asked a slightly different way and was told no, if you separate at 54, and within that calendar year you turn 55, no penalty.

That's the thing with AI, particularly with something as nuanced as tax law. It is basically a really fast search engine, and it will provide a lot of information and references, but still might be incorrect.

I can see how AI got this wrong while being technically correct, and why additional context matters. Because the tax law in IRC 72(t)(2)(A)(v) states it applies when distributions are "made to an employee after separation from service after attainment of age 55." Which is what AI gave you the first time.

The IRS's interpretation of this kind of changed the answer, when they released Notice 87-13, Q&A-20:

"A distribution to an employee from a qualified plan will be treated as within section 72(t)(2)(A)(v) if (i) it is made after the employee has separated from service for the employer maintaining the plan and (ii) such separation from service occurred during or after the calendar year in which the employee attained age 55."

This is why AI isn't taking over the world or taking that many jobs anytime soon.

But even more importantly is what other posters have said. That's the extent of what the law allows, but the plan document may be much more restrictive. Always look there first.
RightWingConspirator
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Thanks guys. I work for a major so I'd think they'd be fairly flexible but it is something I'll need to look at. At this point, I don't need the 401k money, but I'd at least like for it to be an option should I need it.
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