Who is buying a Tesla Cybercab?

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That ambulance crew should've either detoured or gone over to the car and used the call button so that it could be taken over remotely. Neither option is ideal, but better than just sitting there honking at it.
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They eventually did that. Never had anything remotely close to this happen in my Tesla. If anything the software is too deferential to emergency vehicles relative to the normal drivers reaction to emergency vehicles, but if the norm driver were to do what the Tesla does it would be a net gain. It gets right and slows down, sometimes stops, regardless of if the emergency vehicle is with its flow of traffic or against it.
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The size of that building is kind of mind blowing.
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That robotaxi logo looks like something I would've doodled on my eight grade English spiral notebook while daydreaming in class.
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double aught said:

The size of that building is kind of mind blowing.

5x the floor space of Lockheed's Fort Worth factory (which is a mile long). I'm used to LM - can't imagine it five times over.
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They glow.



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I bleed maroon said:

When a CyberCab is ready to take me to the airport and then return home and park in my garage, then pick me up at the airport when I return, I might get interested. Avoiding parking and valet stands at in-town restaurants or sports/concert venues would also be a plus. Then, I'd put it in the rental pool when I'm not using it.

I don't think we're that close to this, but someone can tell me if I' wrong.

Not the Cybercab
But my wife used Modely Y FSD from IAH Departures to our home in Austin Tx, and didnt have to intervene once. Navigated her out of the construction inHouston, and parked in our driveway.

The S/W is definitely capable.
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deddog said:

I bleed maroon said:

When a CyberCab is ready to take me to the airport and then return home and park in my garage, then pick me up at the airport when I return, I might get interested. Avoiding parking and valet stands at in-town restaurants or sports/concert venues would also be a plus. Then, I'd put it in the rental pool when I'm not using it.

I don't think we're that close to this, but someone can tell me if I' wrong.

Not the Cybercab
But my wife used Modely Y FSD from IAH Departures to our home in Austin Tx, and didnt have to intervene once. Navigated her out of the construction inHouston, and parked in our driveway.

The S/W is definitely capable.

That IS impressive, although it seems like that is a fairly well-defined route and trip to complete (with a human in place for risk mitigation and problem solving). The issues I'm still wary of include unmanned activities like opening and closing the garage door, adjusting pick up time based on flight status, safely navigating the pickup lanes and airport cop directions, iteratively circling the airport departure loop, finding the "cell phone lot", etc. All those are technically feasible, but unproven.

All in all, a lot of progress over the past few years.
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I bleed maroon said:

deddog said:

I bleed maroon said:

When a CyberCab is ready to take me to the airport and then return home and park in my garage, then pick me up at the airport when I return, I might get interested. Avoiding parking and valet stands at in-town restaurants or sports/concert venues would also be a plus. Then, I'd put it in the rental pool when I'm not using it.

I don't think we're that close to this, but someone can tell me if I' wrong.

Not the Cybercab
But my wife used Modely Y FSD from IAH Departures to our home in Austin Tx, and didnt have to intervene once. Navigated her out of the construction inHouston, and parked in our driveway.

The S/W is definitely capable.

That IS impressive, although it seems like that is a fairly well-defined route and trip to complete (with a human in place for risk mitigation and problem solving). The issues I'm still wary of include unmanned activities like opening and closing the garage door, adjusting pick up time based on flight status, safely navigating the pickup lanes and airport cop directions, iteratively circling the airport departure loop, finding the "cell phone lot", etc. All those are technically feasible, but unproven.

All in all, a lot of progress over the past few years.

Got it.
Interesting questions.
Some of those seem easier than others.

Tesla has definitely figured some much harder problems - the one that always gets me is the decision making to turn right onto a road with fast oncoming traffic where cars are changing lanes. It does really well there.

The funniest surprise was at a 4 way stop, it automatically flashed the other driver to proceed :-)
They'll easiliy figure out the signs, or opening the garage door.

The tricky one is how it decides it's a cop directing traffic vs a yahoo like me waving my arms or a homeless person asking the car to stop
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deddog said:

I bleed maroon said:

When a CyberCab is ready to take me to the airport and then return home and park in my garage, then pick me up at the airport when I return, I might get interested. Avoiding parking and valet stands at in-town restaurants or sports/concert venues would also be a plus. Then, I'd put it in the rental pool when I'm not using it.

I don't think we're that close to this, but someone can tell me if I' wrong.

Not the Cybercab
But my wife used Modely Y FSD from IAH Departures to our home in Austin Tx, and didnt have to intervene once. Navigated her out of the construction inHouston, and parked in our driveway.

The S/W is definitely capable.

We are car sitting my son's 2022 Model 3 for about a year. We have the add-on FSD subscription. We are one month in and there have been mistakes made and some really cool stuff happen.

1. My wife flew to Florida to pick up the car and it self drover her all the way to Houston without a glitch.

2. On 288 northbound we were in the left lane in a pack of cars. A DPS trooper had stopped someone on the left "shoulder". The car never tried to move to the right lane and only slowed down about 5 mph. I just knew we were going to get pulled over and written a ticket, but we didn't.

3. Driving on 288 northbound toward the Pierce Elevated it took Chenevert and routed us some way to where we came out ahead off everyone on 59. I didn't write down the route, but it probably saved us 15 minutes and I've never heard of anyone using that route.

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That's the old version of the hardware/software. New hardware hit Model Y in May 2023, Model 3 around January 2024. It's still the second best point to point driving system on the market, but quite a bit worse than the version on the current hardware version.

Next year they're going into production for the next iteration of hardware. Guessing that will be the version that gets totally unsupervised on consumer vehicles. Think current hardware will only get selectively unsupervised, but that may be too pessimistic.
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I am waiting for a day like this.

I buy a self driving car. I let it become an Uber during the times when I don't need it so it generates me cash and pays for itself. When I need it, I turn Uber off and it takes me wherever I need to go. Then it becomes an Uber again.

I believe this is a good model where I have a car for myself and I make it pay for itself.

Elon! Stop slacking and make it happen!
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Who doesn't want to cruise around in a smelly taxi as their daily driver?
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infinity ag said:

I am waiting for a day like this.

I buy a self driving car. I let it become an Uber during the times when I don't need it so it generates me cash and pays for itself. When I need it, I turn Uber off and it takes me wherever I need to go. Then it becomes an Uber again.

I believe this is a good model where I have a car for myself and I make it pay for itself.

Elon! Stop slacking and make it happen!
If that happens, my prediction is that tons of people would try to do the same thing. Therefore, the amount of money you might make would be pretty small.
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no kidding.

reminds me of 10 years ago when every person I sold a townhome to in Rice Military had big plans to rent their places out after they moved to the suburbs.

what could go wrong?
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double aught said:

infinity ag said:

I am waiting for a day like this.

I buy a self driving car. I let it become an Uber during the times when I don't need it so it generates me cash and pays for itself. When I need it, I turn Uber off and it takes me wherever I need to go. Then it becomes an Uber again.

I believe this is a good model where I have a car for myself and I make it pay for itself.

Elon! Stop slacking and make it happen!

If that happens, my prediction is that tons of people would try to do the same thing. Therefore, the amount of money you might make would be pretty small.


You make a good point.
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What does the robotaxi do when drunk people throw up inside? Does it know what happened and then go home to get cleaned?
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Interior cabin camera to assess needs, automated cleaning for routine messes, I imagine they will have cleaning staff for things like throw up. Materials selected for the vehicle are optimized for cleaning.

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tesla definitely hired the exterior designer from the old Hyudai and Kai production lines.

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PDEMDHC said:

I bleed maroon said:

When a CyberCab is ready to take me to the airport and then return home and park in my garage, then pick me up at the airport when I return, I might get interested. Avoiding parking and valet stands at in-town restaurants or sports/concert venues would also be a plus. Then, I'd put it in the rental pool when I'm not using it.

I don't think we're that close to this, but someone can tell me if I' wrong.

Rental pool is the future of cars when things get fully automated. We won't own cars anymore... Traffic engineer and I've been to nationwide conferences where this is being discussed. It's the "ultimate" scenario that City and State agencies want to lower congestion.

Edit that we are probably 30-50 years from this scenario, but that is the endgame





This is the goal but if people are having their personal cabs go home and back for drop off and pickup there will be more cars on the road at the beginning.

The timing is delicate, (when will we reach the period without personal cars), but if a company can come up with some repeatable ways to repurpose old parking lots, then that company will have work for decades.
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Stressboy said:

PDEMDHC said:

I bleed maroon said:

When a CyberCab is ready to take me to the airport and then return home and park in my garage, then pick me up at the airport when I return, I might get interested. Avoiding parking and valet stands at in-town restaurants or sports/concert venues would also be a plus. Then, I'd put it in the rental pool when I'm not using it.

I don't think we're that close to this, but someone can tell me if I' wrong.

Rental pool is the future of cars when things get fully automated. We won't own cars anymore... Traffic engineer and I've been to nationwide conferences where this is being discussed. It's the "ultimate" scenario that City and State agencies want to lower congestion.

Edit that we are probably 30-50 years from this scenario, but that is the endgame





This is the goal but if people are having their personal cabs go home and back for drop off and pickup there will be more cars on the road at the beginning.

The timing is delicate, (when will we reach the period without personal cars), but if a company can come up with some repeatable ways to repurpose old parking lots, then that company will have work for decades.
it aren't self driving cars that can potentially communicate with each other far more efficient at driving than humans?
Think of a line of 10 cars at a traffic light actually all starting to move at the same time when the light turns green. Vs the slow crawl of humans with faces in phones.
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62strat said:

Stressboy said:

PDEMDHC said:

I bleed maroon said:

When a CyberCab is ready to take me to the airport and then return home and park in my garage, then pick me up at the airport when I return, I might get interested. Avoiding parking and valet stands at in-town restaurants or sports/concert venues would also be a plus. Then, I'd put it in the rental pool when I'm not using it.

I don't think we're that close to this, but someone can tell me if I' wrong.

Rental pool is the future of cars when things get fully automated. We won't own cars anymore... Traffic engineer and I've been to nationwide conferences where this is being discussed. It's the "ultimate" scenario that City and State agencies want to lower congestion.

Edit that we are probably 30-50 years from this scenario, but that is the endgame





This is the goal but if people are having their personal cabs go home and back for drop off and pickup there will be more cars on the road at the beginning.

The timing is delicate, (when will we reach the period without personal cars), but if a company can come up with some repeatable ways to repurpose old parking lots, then that company will have work for decades.
it aren't self driving cars that can potentially communicate with each other far more efficient at driving than humans?
Think of a line of 10 cars at a traffic light actually all starting to move at the same time when the light turns green. Vs the slow crawl of humans with faces in phones.


I'm just referring to the first 5-10 years or so of this transition, when 99% are still human driven cars and it slowly goes down to 95%, 85%, not sure when mass adoption takes place. Also was kind of talking about the individually owned cab that is being used like a commuter car as someone stated above. It makes the full trip twice instead of once.

Eventually, most people will just subscribe to a fleet (the manufacturers will each have one) then things will settle out like you mentioned.
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There are benefits to having your own car that will be difficult to give up, like being able to keep items in them. Car seats, for example.
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permabull said:

For 25k i would buy one for a disabled family member of mine and wouldn't even bother trying to recoup the cost in a ride share pool.

This is the only car I would trust my mother to drive my kids in.
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