Disappointed, but not Surprised

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aggiedrjdub said:

Can Buzz coach the women's team also? He's fantastic! So much energy.

We will continue to be an above average program with GB, but we will never be great again with him as our head coach. And I love him and can't believe I just said that. Maybe it's just the frustration talking, but we just appear stagnant. Meanwhile, Dawn Staley is the new SEC and WBB standard.
Wouldn't be awesome to find someone like Buzz, who's energy is infectious and his love for the players and their love for him is so visible! Every game you can see the pure admiration and love his guys have for him.
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Yes! His energy, win or lose, is infectious!
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At one time, after a few years giving away tickets, there was excitement and pretty fair attendance (including students) for the team. Maybe not proportionately as good as Msstate but not bad for Aggies. Might have been some synergy with the men's program with Billy G but still looked a lot like support when you went to Reed.

Problem is the momentum was lost. Just like too many of our games, too many of our seasons - lots of unrealized potential - get a good jump ahead and lose it. I suspect the powers that be just didn't care, let Kennedy keep going, let Gary keep going.
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All of our sports programs are a business run by the equivalent of a CEO. I expect good management. Gary is average in todays coaching pools. He cannot recruit enough of the top talent to assemble a top 5 program year after year. Only a top 20.

He also cannot develop players to maximum potential. He is good, above average, but not excellent. Glaring example is in the closing minutes of a tough game. D is the key and with Carter in he is letting her have the last shot. Ark. defended that move, she was fouled but the refs do not call it late.

Also also we are a little slow defending the three.

TAMU is not a retirement center.
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Houstonag said:

All of our sports programs are a business run by the equivalent of a CEO. I expect good management. Gary is average in todays coaching pools. He cannot recruit enough of the top talent to assemble a top 5 program year after year. Only a top 20.

He also cannot develop players to maximum potential. He is good, above average, but not excellent. Glaring example is in the closing minutes of a tough game. D is the key and with Carter in he is letting her have the last shot. Ark. defended that move, she was fouled but the refs do not call it late.

Also also we are a little slow defending the three.

TAMU is not a retirement center.
Your analogy is poor. The business aspects are shared between the TMF and the Athletic Department with the Director of Athletics effectively as CEO of the whole intercollegiate athletics platform.

In addition to that every bit of the current women's basketball team success was personally overseen by Blair. He created ex nihilo...from absolutely nothing. He has an NC. He has repeatedly gone to the NCAAT for women.

And he's nearing retirement but isn't retired yet and has done more for women's basketball as a sport than you can understand or imagine based on your comment.

Coming to these boards to rag on coaches should be done with carefulness. Any jerk can post the crap you posted. Don't be that jerk. I'm not saying to shut up. Just respect the man. He's done a lot for our school including take the job in the first place.
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I stand by my statements. Any objective review of our program since the national championship will conclude that we have failed to maintain a competitive position. Many programs have and we are just an average top 20 team. If you are satisfied with that then fine for I am not. Everyone of our coaches are the respective CEOs of their program. Use what ever labels of the head coach you like but the head coach is in charge. Evaluated after the season. TAMU has a tendency to wait too long to make changes. Other programs that also need to be evaluated are baseball and softball.

Success in NCAA is all about recruiting, coaching, developing, making timely adjustments and yes there is always bad luck like injuries.
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Chennedy is a superlative player currently with the team. You literally have zero clue other than a whimsical idea that Blair has failed since 2011.
Reno Hightower
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Currently watching Oregon v Stanford in the Pac12 tourney championship and both of these teams are outstanding.
Nixter
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Any objective review of our program since the national championship will conclude that we have failed to maintain a competitive position.
That's a dumb take.

I'm disappointed we haven't turned our National Championship into a dynasty. Blair is a very good, but not great, recruiter. It seems to be the rule and not the exception for men coaching the women's game. At least the ones not named Geno Auriemma. So yes, signing day hasn't lit things up. But come March, we usually seem to be pretty solid.

An objective review would examine the program beyond a few seasons. And if you do that, you see we have a historically bad women's program that is now a top 20 fixture. Just a couple of seasons ago we went took eventual champion Notre Dame to the limit in the Sweet 16.

Blair has had his challenges and has been facing women's basketball headwinds, but he still keeps winning at an extremely high level. After two years where his teams probably overachieved, this one has (so far) underachieved. But it hasn't underachieved by much - I just know it could be better. Chennedy getting hurt and now Johnson getting hurt has been really unfortunate. But that's the breaks.

Success in the women's game is guaranteed. Ask Tennessee, the most storied program in women's basketball that's not UConn. Ask Texas, who has recruited LIGHTS OUT for the past 5 or 6 years and has National Championships and lots of top shelf success in its history. Ask Texas Tech.

In reality, if you take the time for an objective review, you'll see that Blair has done a better job than Billy Gillespie did. He took a worse program to greater success AND maintained that success over the long term. It's simply incredible if you have followed things long enough to understand the context.

Blair isn't Geno. But he's far and away the best we've ever had and if the data is any indicator, is probably the best we'll have in the foreseeable future. Hopefully I'm wrong and when he rides into the sunset, we find someone that can take the next step. But I wouldn't bet on it.
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I agree with everything you've stated above. I think the problem is, we as a fan base and alumni have tasted what it feels like to win on the biggest stage and we want more of that feeling. And our frustration is that we didn't parlay that into a perennial top 10 program. We are a top 20/25 program at best.

I love Gary Blair. He has been a tremendous asset to our program; however, at what point do we look at what we want - what our expectations are and say "it's just not good enough"? When the seats aren't being filled and when season tickets sales are dwindling, it seems the writing is on the wall.

The reality is, we are now a program that can draw a big name coach. One thing, though, that is worth noting...tu has been awful for a decade now. They lost their hall of fame coach and have not seemed to have ever recovered.
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We are a top 20/25 program at best.
Actually, we are a top 20/25 team at worst. We have been a top 16 seed and hosted 3 of the last 4 years, and when we don't host we are just off that cusp. "At best", we have been a top 15 team.

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Valid point. Are you okay with being a top 15 team at best?
Houstonag
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Just look at the facts. Be professional. Calling people dumb and a jerk because you cannot stand the truth is no way to win a debate. I believe in absolutes. Performance is all that counts. Sorry but I have been writing a few checks to the 12th Man Foundation and feel like some programs have not measured up.
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Bracketology today has us as a 5 seed going to Chicago. Our RPI yesterday was at 22. There could be some movement there as there are still a lot of conference tournaments to be played.
fitzwatema
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Or there might not be tournaments, as the Ivy league just canceled their men's and women's tournaments.
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Houstonag said:

Just look at the facts. Be professional. Calling people dumb and a jerk because you cannot stand the truth is no way to win a debate. I believe in absolutes. Performance is all that counts. Sorry but I have been writing a few checks to the 12th Man Foundation and feel like some programs have not measured up.
Nonsense. It is a dumb take. And an arrogant take. You claim to be the objective arbiter with the objective take who is just looking at the facts. And that means that those who disagree must not be objective and aren't looking at the facts.

Then you go on with "you cannot stand the truth" and "I believe in absolutes", as if those are somehow cogent responses. Those are Skip Bayless arguments. Those are Youtube know-it-all screamer arguments. Those are the arguments of a polemic with their fingers in their ears and eyes closed. They are the arguments of someone who is unprofessional, ungenerous, and unserious.

And finally you, cloaked in your armor of objectivity and facts and truth, insinuate that the women's basketball program has not measured up. Measured up to what? After all, it's the second most successful program we have on campus over the last 10 years.

You say performance is all that counts, but if you measure performance that's exactly where our women's basketball program shows best. Football? Nope. Baseball? Nope. Men's basketball? Nope. Softball? Nope. Tennis? Nope. Golf? Nope. Not even women's soccer, where we are a tournament fixture. Only our track program (probably the very best program in the nation) has performed better than our women's basketball program.

You want our program to be better. Me too. We can agree on that. But cut out the sanctimony and accept that reasonable, knowledgeable, and equally passionate people disagree.
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Not to change the topic, but it looks like Chennedy will miss the A&M scoring record by 8 points since the season is over? Assuming she declares and is gone, is this accurate? If so, bummer.
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