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$1,100 for appraisal

3,277 Views | 20 Replies | Last: 4 yr ago by Year of the Germaphobe
AggieDruggist89
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Is that about right?
jja79
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Appraisal of what?
AggieDruggist89
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Heloc my house
SJEAg
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I just paid $640 for an appraisal on a house I am buying. Not sure if the reason matters.
East Dallas Ag
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If its more rural meaning fewer comps, possible acreage, and more drive time for the appraiser, its going to cost more. If its a standard urban neighborhood, thats high.
jja79
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I assume you're trying to borrow a large amount and have a higher end house. HELOCs typically don't require an appraisal unless the amount exceeds $250K or the CAD value isn't near what the borrower believes it to be. Appraisals on cookie cutter houses in master planned communities are over $500 so it may not be that crazy.
AggieDruggist89
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It's for $250,000.

Here's the response from the loan officer.

"Subject is located in a rural area. The property has a gla of 5,100 sq ft and the median is 2,582 sq ft"
Diggity
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You should change it to $249K
AggieDruggist89
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Serious?
jja79
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Is the amount you're trying to borrow over 80% (combined with any existing first mortgage) of the CAD value? Being in a rural area may be the bigger factor. I would ask them if there's a loan limit under which they don't require an appraisal?
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I have posted before that appraisal missed my sqft by 700 sqft and also $850k below Zillow Estimate, not that it carries that much value. Penfed already approved $200k HELOc based on the desktop appraisal. LO suggested we do a real appraisal.
jja79
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Is $250K the amount you want or that he wants?
Keeper of The Spirits
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Never question the appraiser they are never wrong
Shooter McGavin
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Keeper of The Spirits said:

Never question the appraiser they are never wrong
This kind of bull**** is idiotic.

Again, let's go over this.

Do appraisers make mistakes? Yes, I make them all of the time. All of the ****ing time. We revise reports daily, sometimes it is a stupid mistake that make me cringe, sometimes a typo, sometimes it's a legal description change - whatever. We readily admit that we make mistakes.

The appraiser is tasked with giving an "opinion of value". We have parameters and rules and USPAP and all of this other bullcrap that we have to contend with when writing the reports. Then we get checked by underwriters, Automated Valuation Models, CU (Collateral Underwriter which gives a score) as well as being second guessed by review appraisers, Realtors, loan officers and the general public.

If the appraiser gives their opinion of value, they are supposed to back this up with data, support for the adjustments, three approaches to value and on and on.

What makes you think they are not going to defend their work? It's the entire point of the job! Why on earth would we be engaged to write the reports and be paid if we just lay down and say "ok, I'll just go with your uneducated, unsupported and subjective opinion? Does this make sense? Don't you want somebody to do this job so that the collateral being used to make lending decisions is sound? What would happen to the financial instruments, lending institutions and our entire national financial health if we had no one willing to defend their work?

I'm nearing the end of my career - I've been doing this since 1984. The industry is going to be wiped out by technological change, coordinated charges of racism (this is a planned attack on the industry, you can see it a mile away) and us old guys just aging out. Mark this down, I promise you, what replaces us will make you even madder and more frustrated.

jagvocate
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what replaces us will make you even madder and more frustrated

Y'all have done your fair share
Shooter McGavin
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jagvocate said:

what replaces us will make you even madder and more frustrated

Y'all have done your fair share

I'll be sure to circle back and see how you're enjoying it.
AggieIce
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You work in an industry where few take their jobs as seriously/professionally as you
12thMan9
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So, no one has answered his question.
Ronnie '88
Diggity
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I think it was answered pretty well right here
halfastros81
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I'm being charged $625. 4100 sq ft with a little over an acre. 1,100 Seems pretty high
HTownAg98
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$625? I've been getting calls everyday for residential jobs, and I don't do them normally. I've been given quotes of $1,200 and I hang up the phone. You're good at that fee.
Year of the Germaphobe
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Shooter McGavin said:


Do appraisers make mistakes? Yes, I make them all . Mark this down, I promise you, what replaces us will make you even madder and more frustrated.




1) keeping up with modern technology will be a modern appraisers best strategy. Here is an example of the direction in which things could go.
https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/gGhBCwpRAlfvrjVrCVG5_O?domain=wevideo.com

2) Some years back this poor guy at a conference in Vegas basically told appraisers "this (a drone) is what will be replacing you within the next 5 years."
*his business went under, and he lost his investment. He is still VERY bitter about it lol.

3) people will always need housing. There will always be a need for an appraisal of some form, regardless of where it comes from, and those of us who are flexible and very well connected like my Wife & I will continue to thrive in any changing environment.

Edit: people always make the mistake of assuming things will just continue as they are, and they won't. There will be recessions, depressions, and bubbles which will offset most predictions; and anyone claiming they know what is coming is a liar.
Regardless of what hard times come faith in God, and patience will overcome anything that comes along.
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