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mwp02ag
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I have an opportunity to pick up a nice 53 ac hunting ranch as a flip. Here are the details:

  • $2k/ac purchase with seller financing
  • 15% or $16k down
  • $90k note at 5% over 15 years =$711/m payment, no prepayment penalty
  • Comparable property sold Jan 21 after 3 months on market for $3875/ac, puts this deal at $205k value
  • We would list the property at $190k or $3578/ac and hope to sell quickly not less that $180k
  • Total out of pocket if sold in 6 months, $25k
  • Assuming conservative 10% cost on the sell side should net us right about $30k profit, about 150% ROI

I've never done a seller finance deal, I have baked a bit of conservativeness in these numbers on the sell side. Its 4x4 access only for the 1/2 mile but while I wouldn't drive my nice truck if I was worried about brush scratches, any tall clearance vehicle should have no problem accessing the property. The access ROW is deeded and was arbitrated and recorded with the country in 2010.

Has live water at one (the shortest) property line and has abundant white tail, axis and occasional other exotics. There are no high fences on any of the surrounding properties. Has a small hunting cabin that requires a generator, power is close but not to the property. No well is present but they are on other neighboring properties.

It's doesn't have quite enough meat on the bone for my funding partners to work it, but the seller finance does seem to create an opportunity for us. My biggest concern is should I not find a buyer I would have to maintain the debt heading into a potential recession. I'm not terribly concerned about that as we have some reserves we can assign for that. I also feel like worst case I should be able to fire sale the property and break even pretty easily.

What am I missing?
remko12
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Interesting- have anymore details on the property? Feel free to email me at rhinloopen@ g m a i l . c o m

I've looked at property flips with the internet of flipping to a place I would ultimately want to keep but haven't acted on them. This property, depending upon local, could be of interest.
mwp02ag
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I know this deal intimately, but I have lost a deal by revealing too much information in the past and someone used that to find my selller and poach my deal. Until I get this tied up later today I'm keeping cards close to the chest.

It's beautiful NW Uvalde Co property not far from Camp Wood.
Agilaw
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Would the Seller consider interest only on your note for a few years? If so, you could free up some monthly cash for the interest only term.
AggieStan
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53 acres, not a ranch
mwp02ag
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Agilaw said:

Would the Seller consider interest only on your note for a few years? If so, you could free up some monthly cash for the interest only term.
Good question and one I will ask when I speak to him later today. Even if he gives me a few months IO I feel like we can sell this in that short term. My other thought is trying to extend the term/lower of a combination of the two.
mwp02ag
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I'll use Ranchette next time.
vmiaptetr
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I would do that deal…today. In cash.
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mwp02ag said:

I know this deal intimately, but I have lost a deal by revealing too much information in the past and someone used that to find my selller and poach my deal. Until I get this tied up later today I'm keeping cards close to the chest.

It's beautiful NW Uvalde Co property not far from Camp Wood.


I feel your pain. I once struck a deal with a homeowner on a historical pier and beam house on his property. I called a company to go out and get me an estimate on moving the house. They offered more to the property owner, and then offered to sell me the house and get it moved.
mwp02ag
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Ouch, takes some gall to steal someone's deal and offer it back to them. Of course I am a firm believer that every missed deal is one step closer to the next deal. I'm calling to see if I can get this one inked now. Fingers crossed.
remko12
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mwp02ag said:

I know this deal intimately, but I have lost a deal by revealing too much information in the past and someone used that to find my selller and poach my deal. Until I get this tied up later today I'm keeping cards close to the chest.

It's beautiful NW Uvalde Co property not far from Camp Wood.


Fair enough, keep me in mind if you pull it off and want to talk.
normaleagle05
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So has this retread from the Outdoor Board from three months ago been in negotiations this whole time?

https://texags.com/forums/34/topics/3275624
mwp02ag
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No, it went under contract with another buyer who backed out on him. It came back me late last week. At the end of the day whoever had the contract couldn't close.

We pushed our call last night to this morning so still not under contract.
mwp02ag
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Well we decided to pass on this deal, we just didn't want to take on the payment in this environment. It also ties up a good portion of our investment dollars and we have a couple of projects to wrap up that will produce some cashflow and our goal is to focus on cash flow right now.

If anyone wants this deal I'll pass the sellers contact on. I'm sure he'd take the same terms.
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I'm interested for my wife and I. Can you text or email me the info? My contact info is in my profile. Thanks!
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remko12
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Please send me the contact details... 713 202 seven six 83

This would be for personal use - not to flip.

Thank you!
mwp02ag
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Red Pear spoke first but I took your number down. I'll let you know if anything changes.
remko12
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mwp02ag said:

Red Pear spoke first but I took your number down. I'll let you know if anything changes.
Thanks.

Tried to discuss it with you on the 6th (2nd post on this thread)... Looked at the pictures / videos you posted on the outdoor board sometime ago. Beautiful place. Hope to hear from you.

remko12
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Any update? Any chance I could get the contact details - still very interested.

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