Raiderjay said:
The Fact tu is #10 is BS......just to try and set up a top 10 matchup with Georgia this week....
Skubalon said:
It will never happen because if Texas wins out they won't be a 10 seed and if they lose one more they are out (at least in my opinion).
But it would be fun. I think Tech would clobber Texas this year, mostly because of matchups. And I think A&M would clobber Tech this year, mostly because of matchups.
TPS_Report said:Skubalon said:
It will never happen because if Texas wins out they won't be a 10 seed and if they lose one more they are out (at least in my opinion).
But it would be fun. I think Tech would clobber Texas this year, mostly because of matchups. And I think A&M would clobber Tech this year, mostly because of matchups.
The scenario is indeed unlikely, but fun to imagine. That t.u. @ Tech game would be an injury-fest... in the stands.
BohunkAg said:
I saw this thread title and thought they had found a cure for chlamydia.
BohunkAg said:
I saw this thread title and thought they had found a cure for chlamydia.
Skubalon said:
Tech moves up to 6, with a second round game against A&M.
But what is cool is that I think both teams have a chance to move up. A&M could already make a case for 2 (or 1) and if they finish undefeated they should be #1.
And the committee showed respect for Tech moving them up 2. If Tech wins out at 12-1 that 4 seed, or higher, is in reach.
TPS_Report said:
Question: Would you prefer the Big12 as it is or as it was prior to Nebraska leaving?
Skubalon said:TPS_Report said:
Question: Would you prefer the Big12 as it is or as it was prior to Nebraska leaving?
I'm old. I hate the Big 12. Always have. I miss the SWC. Always will.
That said: I miss being in the same conference with the Aggies, but am glad to not be in the same conference as Texas (and OU).
I would rather Tech move to the Sunbelt than be in a conference with Texas again.
I don't see the Big 12 in its current form lasting long at all. I hope that these giant conferences will at least split into divisions, and would rather that all conferences just have 7-8 teams where every team plays every other team. But there's too much money to be made in the current format, at least until the SEC and Big 10 form their own mega conference or league or whatever. Which might be best anyway.
I am excited by what is going on at Tech right now. Really amazing things. ESPN analysts are saying Tech has the best facilities in the nation, and Tech is getting attention on the national stage like never before in its history. But I don't like what the game has become.
Such is life for an old guy, pining away for the good ol' days.
Skubalon said:TPS_Report said:
Question: Would you prefer the Big12 as it is or as it was prior to Nebraska leaving?
I'm old. I hate the Big 12. Always have. I miss the SWC. Always will.
That said: I miss being in the same conference with the Aggies, but am glad to not be in the same conference as Texas (and OU).
I would rather Tech move to the Sunbelt than be in a conference with Texas again.
I don't see the Big 12 in its current form lasting long at all. I hope that these giant conferences will at least split into divisions, and would rather that all conferences just have 7-8 teams where every team plays every other team. But there's too much money to be made in the current format, at least until the SEC and Big 10 form their own mega conference or league or whatever. Which might be best anyway.
I am excited by what is going on at Tech right now. Really amazing things. ESPN analysts are saying Tech has the best facilities in the nation, and Tech is getting attention on the national stage like never before in its history. But I don't like what the game has become.
Such is life for an old guy, pining away for the good ol' days.
Skubalon said:
The things I miss about A&M are the things you will be immediately reject due to your cult training.
To me - Tech and A&M are culturally similar. Conservative, smaller college towns, ag roots, similar sorts of people at both schools, etc. UT is "city folk", snooty, crazy liberal hippies with a sense of self-entitlement. Tech and A&M have had to fight and scrap against UT every step of the way. Of course, as A&M increased its power within the state, A&M and UT aligned against Tech (and still do) but that's a different subject.
But what I miss about the SWC is that almost every single person I know is aligned with a school from the SWC. My friends are Aggies and Bears and Horned Frogs (and Longhorns) and Razorbacks. I'm not smart enough to have any friends from Rice, or rich enough to have friends from SMU, sadly. In the SWC, we watched games together. We drank beer on Saturday nights and gave each other crap on Sunday mornings. We were a dysfunctional family, but we were family. And of that family, my Aggie friends are my favorites.
So all the politics and money stuff aside, I miss the cultural and social part of the SWC.
In the Big 12, the only people I know that I can enjoy football with are a few TCU and Baylor grads, and Tech doesn't even play those two teams this year. And I just don't care what else is happening with any of the other schools. Don't care. Don't want to care. Meaningless.
I blame Texas for A&M leaving. The way that Texas insisted on having its own little way in every little thing in the Big 12, starting with the Longhorn Network and revenue sharing, was just poison. The people in charge at Texas failed to recognize how helping the entire conference succeed would ultimately help Texas succeed. Look at the environment today... A&M, Tech, Texas, and even SMU are a part of the national discussion, and it could have been that way in the SWC. The Big 12 could have been a perennial powerhouse, on par with the SEC and surpassing the Big 10 and PAC 10. For a time, it was.
If I had been the boss at A&M at the time, I absolutely would have bolted for the SEC. A&M made the right choice. It was just a sad one. At least for me.
I get it that you Aggies are programmed to say that you think Tech is a waste of a school and that we are irrelevant sand fleas and whatever. Maybe you actually believe that. I don't care. But I think the cultural fabric of the state was torn badly when the SWC broke apart, and torn again when A&M left, and once more when Texas left, but I place the blame of that directly on Texas.
I can't decide if I hope that Texas makes the playoffs and faces Tech, or if I hope they crater and finish 8-4 after a pre-season #1 with gawd-almighty-himself at quarterback. Either way, I will go on cheering my little team do something amazing and hope it ends even better.
Thanks for attending my TED talk.
Raiderjay said:
The Fact tu is #10 is BS......just to try and set up a top 10 matchup with Georgia this week....
TPS_Report said:
I appreciate your TED talk!
Aggies do tend to scoff at Tech but truth be told, there was a definite rivalry. When you HATE losing to a particular school (as we did with Tech), then that school is a rival. For me it became a real rivalry when Leach started giving us the business on a regular basis. Gawd those losses hurt!
The reason so many teams from Texas have become relevant is that we've split up. If sippy and OU were still in the Big12, they'd be sucking up all the oxygen. Hell, when Baylor and TCU were tops in the conference they were still an afterthought nationally. Sadly it's all about clicks and views and eyeballs now and the Baylors of the world just don't draw them.
I don't think the fabric of Texas was damaged by conference realignment. The fabric has changed due to a huge influx of people from other states.
I wonder if you're in the minority in regard to blaming UT for A&M's departure. At the time we got tons of flack from the Big 12 schools in Texas. Seemed like everyone claimed A&M was being a big crybaby and should just shut up and kiss UT's ass as God intended. The hate that rained down on A&M for even thinking of changing conferences was mind-blowing.
As for this season, it would be great for Tech to kick sippy out of the playoffs then have them never get back.
Texas velvet maestro said:
They won't beat Georgia, and they definitely won't beat the Aggies. They might even lose to Arkansas and finish the last three weeks 0-3.
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it would be great for Tech to kick sippy out of the playoffs then have them never get back.
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A game in which the sips are going to get skull-****ed.
The aptly named Dream Scenario thread
Y'all put your butthurt in one hand and your wishful thinking in the other, and see what breaks your hearts first.
HOOK'EM
Skubalon said:
The things I miss about A&M are the things you will be immediately reject due to your cult training.
To me - Tech and A&M are culturally similar. Conservative, smaller college towns, ag roots, similar sorts of people at both schools, etc. UT is "city folk", snooty, crazy liberal hippies with a sense of self-entitlement. Tech and A&M have had to fight and scrap against UT every step of the way. Of course, as A&M increased its power within the state, A&M and UT aligned against Tech (and still do) but that's a different subject.
But what I miss about the SWC is that almost every single person I know is aligned with a school from the SWC. My friends are Aggies and Bears and Horned Frogs (and Longhorns) and Razorbacks. I'm not smart enough to have any friends from Rice, or rich enough to have friends from SMU, sadly. In the SWC, we watched games together. We drank beer on Saturday nights and gave each other crap on Sunday mornings. We were a dysfunctional family, but we were family. And of that family, my Aggie friends are my favorites.
So all the politics and money stuff aside, I miss the cultural and social part of the SWC.
In the Big 12, the only people I know that I can enjoy football with are a few TCU and Baylor grads, and Tech doesn't even play those two teams this year. And I just don't care what else is happening with any of the other schools. Don't care. Don't want to care. Meaningless.
I blame Texas for A&M leaving. The way that Texas insisted on having its own little way in every little thing in the Big 12, starting with the Longhorn Network and revenue sharing, was just poison. The people in charge at Texas failed to recognize how helping the entire conference succeed would ultimately help Texas succeed. Look at the environment today... A&M, Tech, Texas, and even SMU are a part of the national discussion, and it could have been that way in the SWC. The Big 12 could have been a perennial powerhouse, on par with the SEC and surpassing the Big 10 and PAC 10. For a time, it was.
If I had been the boss at A&M at the time, I absolutely would have bolted for the SEC. A&M made the right choice. It was just a sad one. At least for me.
I get it that you Aggies are programmed to say that you think Tech is a waste of a school and that we are irrelevant sand fleas and whatever. Maybe you actually believe that. I don't care. But I think the cultural fabric of the state was torn badly when the SWC broke apart, and torn again when A&M left, and once more when Texas left, but I place the blame of that directly on Texas.
I can't decide if I hope that Texas makes the playoffs and faces Tech, or if I hope they crater and finish 8-4 after a pre-season #1 with gawd-almighty-himself at quarterback. Either way, I will go on cheering my little team do something amazing and hope it ends even better.
Thanks for attending my TED talk.
ExPeterKeating said:
I don't really miss the SWC but i do miss the original B12. And that original B12 WAS the elite football conference. I do blame Nebraska and *****n for fouling the waters with their constant need for special treatment.
As for today, I have come to see that splitting Texas teams into different conferences has somewhat spread the brand and broadened the money available to programs. Tech vs A&M was a fun series but it is over. Yes, Tech is now doing exactly what it should be doing. And Baylor/TCU should never beat Tech in ANY sport. Ever.
Going forward, I suspect there will be further realignment. And the teams that have a ratings resume will be elevated into a 48 or 64 team system. In some ways that system already exists between the B1G, SEC, B12 and ACC. But some of those current schools will not make the Final 48-64 team cut. A power conference beyond that will exclude too many to have the necessary broad national appeal. The tv networks wrongly assumed that college sports could consolidate the teams and maintain the same national audience. I don't believe that is true. There is a fine balance between regional rivalries and ratings.
Skubalon said:
^^^^ I don't recall exactly except that at the formation of the Big 12, Nebraska was a football powerhouse, and they were the main opponent of UT's demand for the Longhorn Network being separate from the Big 12 media deals. But I have had beer since then, so that may not be right. There was also a significant blow up over unequal revenue sharing and use of partial qualifiers.
Texas velvet maestro said:
Nebraska/ Tom Osborne were shocked, first because we beat them in the 1996 first Big 12 championship, and 2nd because we kept beating them and out-recruiting them (along with other Texas schools). And then he didn't like the way we do business. He said. He was a sorry athletic director and probably a sorry politician.
But Nebraska was a boring program with an old coach and a dull offense and they couldn't create excitement. At that point kids would rather play under Rick Neuheisel.
UT knocked them out of elite status forever.
And the BIg 12 South was the toughest division in college football for about 10 years.
Big 12-0 said:
Dream Scenario for A&M: Not playing Texas Tech
Be afraid. Be VERY afraid...
Stay tuned...
