***** The Masters : Friday Delay *****

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Spicewood Ag
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It is happening. Right now, it is happening.

Trees failing.

IBM commercial.
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If you saw the video clip on the ESPN telecast with SVP narrating it, you maybe saw this: What looks like a young woman (red arrow) with deer-in-headlights -or- calculating where she should stand as the trees fell on either side of her. Perhaps when she became fully aware of what was happening, it was too late to run, and she calculated where she should stand as the massive pines fell around her. If you see the video, it's just wow. She is a cool customer.

One patron was quoted as seeing a woman standing between two fallen trees, this has to be her.


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Quote:

"The safety and well-being of everyone attending the Masters Tournament will always be the top priority," Augusta National said in a statement. "We will continue to closely monitor weather today and through the Tournament."
Just before the second horn sounded, three enormous pines slowly fell next to each other near the 17th tee, sending those below them scattering. On the nearby 16th green, Sergio Garcia stopped and stared at what seemed to be happening in slow motion, and his playing partners Kazuki Higa and Keith Mitchell watched anxiously to see if anyone was hurt.
"We were cresting the fairway on 15. We thought it was a scoreboard or a grandstand," said Sahith Theegala, who is playing in his first Masters. "We were hoping it wasn't something that hit anybody."

The uprooted pines fell slowly with two of them acting as support for the third, and that provided time for the patrons below to get out of the way. But the close call was evidenced by several crushed chairs beneath the fallen trees.
I tell you there is not an insurance company in the world that would pay out any claims if the Masters continues tomorrow and other trees start falling and people get hurt or killed.

Im not an arborist but given the soggy conditions and the sheer number of tall pine trees at Augusta, how can they check them all to determine they won't fall? Or shore them up?
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You want them to check or shore up every tree at ANGC?
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Ag_07 said:

You want them to check or shore up every tree at ANGC?
They will have to do something. This is now a known hazard, just having a swimming pool without adequate fencing around it.

No property owner can have a known hazard on their property and not try to fix it. Not a force majeure event when it was known beforehand. Had someone been injured today, would have had the coverage.

Tomorrow? If it happened again? That's intentional/negligent conduct on the part of the insured which usually voids coverage. That's what the insurance companies will say. This is a business property. Invitees, employees, just the general public is still owed a duty for the business owner not to maintain a known hazard to their health and safety.

And that is the difference here...knowledge...in advance. Have litigated a few of those cases on behalf of the insurer. Duty to defend still applied back then but payment of any claims or judgments still went back to the insureds. (Meaning I won.for my client, the insurance company.)
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I would be willing to bet, based upon the extremes that Augusta National goes to, is that those trees were transplanted within the last year or so. The root balls don't look like those of well established pines.
Gig ‘em and God bless
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Oh wow you were serious
annie88
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Holy crap!

Very lucky no one was killed.

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Turf-Ag02 said:

I would be willing to bet, based upon the extremes that Augusta National goes to, is that those trees were transplanted within the last year or so. The root balls don't look like those of well established pines.
I was watching Live From the Masters earlier this week and they were talking about the new tee box at 13..... said there was a 100' pine tree that Augusta "relocated" in the process. I didn't even know that was possible.
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Not sure how they do it but they work miracles over there.
Gig ‘em and God bless
TyHolden
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Were they tied together? The way they fell it certainly looked like all 3 fell exactly at the same time....






edit: looks like the tallest took down the other 2 smaller ones. makes sense.
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That is the clip that shows the girl looking up as the trees fall down toward her. View it on a desktop PC and enlarge it to full screen and you can clearly see her positioning herself to find a "gap" between them
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So you get hit by the tree and suffer broken bones, lacerations but no life altering injuries and Augusta offers you $2.5mm or a lifetime membership to settle your claims, which do you take?
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Kansas Kid said:

So you get hit by the tree and suffer broken bones, lacerations but no life altering injuries and Augusta offers you $2.5mm or a lifetime membership to settle your claims, which do you take?


That's a no-brainer. Membership. In addition to the golf, you could probably leverage that membership professionally and more than make up the 2.5 mill with it.
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Kansas Kid said:

So you get hit by the tree and suffer broken bones, lacerations but no life altering injuries and Augusta offers you $2.5mm or a lifetime membership to settle your claims, which do you take?
do i get more than a split-second to think about it? only jff calculates situations that quickly.
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Kansas Kid said:

So you get hit by the tree and suffer broken bones, lacerations but no life altering injuries and Augusta offers you $2.5mm or a lifetime membership to settle your claims, which do you take?


The value of a dollar isnt worth what it used to be, and certainly wont be in the future what it is today. You take the membership. No brainer
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