Many golfers laud new wedges and how much more they spin.

Some boast how often they have to swap out wedges because they wear out the grooves.

What's the fascination with extra spin rate? Stop the ball on the dot or spin it back?

I leave chips and pitches short often and rarely do I wish I need additional spin on my short wedge shots.

How many of you play golf with worn out wedges and believe worn grooves are/should be the baseline and the new wedge/additional spin is the aberration?

I like my full wedge shots and longer pitches to launch high enough, with enough spin, and land with the right descent angle to stop where they land.

Once my wedges start bouncing and rolling out from those well struck shots, I replace them.

khaos288 said:

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I like my full wedge shots and longer pitches to launch high enough, with enough spin, and land with the right descent angle to stop where they land.

Once my wedges start bouncing and rolling out from those well struck shots, I replace them.

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This.. finally replaced my old ass SM5s with new MG4s and the difference is insane.

Higher spin rates keep the trajectory low when proper chips are struck well

Aggie369 said:

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Higher spin rates keep the trajectory low when proper chips are struck well

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Hmm... Low chips are hit with 8-9 irons, for me.
What would be the benefit of chipping a LW with low trajectory? I can certainly pitch it low and have it stick by hitting it on the lower grooves.

khaos288 said:

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I like my full wedge shots and longer pitches to launch high enough, with enough spin, and land with the right descent angle to stop where they land.

Once my wedges start bouncing and rolling out from those well struck shots, I replace them.

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Can't you just tell how much they spin on the simulator?

It spins more and stops faster (from fringe and fairways)

Not much spin out of rough comparatively

And that's correct, hitting it on lower grooves essentially gaurantees ball first contact and helps keep it low

AggieDruggist89 said:

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khaos288 said:

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I like my full wedge shots and longer pitches to launch high enough, with enough spin, and land with the right descent angle to stop where they land.

Once my wedges start bouncing and rolling out from those well struck shots, I replace them.

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Can't you just tell how much they spin on the simulator?

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Yes? Are interested in the numbers? Generally, anything less than 8500 with a gap wedge to lob wedge with a full swing or longer pitch (75+ yards) is generally when you see them start to skip more and more forward.

I don't have a trackman though, so I'm sure it's not perfectly accurate. It's always easy to tell when you walk up to a ball mark after a good strike and it's bounced past.

All about control for better golfers. The ball is controllable in the air, uncontrollable on the turf.

Project Gemini said:

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All about control for better golfers. The ball is controllable in the air, uncontrollable on the turf.

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What??

Have you ever played Spaulding Tour Edition balls in the 90s? Greg Norman would've won more tournaments if he was using a better ball. There's a reason why many short game gurus promote getting the chips rolling as soon as possible on the green.

For my game, more spin equals not better control. There's an optimal spin rate for each club I believe.

Industry has led us to a point where many golfers now believe optimal spin can only be attained with brand spanking new wedges and everyone should buy new wedges after so many hits.

As a contrarian in nature, I want to believe my optimal spin should be obtained with worn out wedges I've used for years. And learn to play it instead of swapping wedges every 6 months.

Even Vokey is conscientious enough to make them cast instead of forged.

Imagine wearing out the grooves on forged vokeys....

I was talking about wedge shots. I'm not hitting many bump and run chips with my high loft wedges, are you?

Project Gemini said:

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I was talking about wedge shots. I'm not hitting many bump and run chips with my high loft wedges, are you?

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Hell yeah.

I go at sucka pins. And leave my self on the short side. I absolutely have to bump and run with my 58 degree LW.

Man ya'll talking about backspin and stopping on the green and I'm over here with my Ping ChipR rolling up from 30 yards out.

Teslag said:

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Man ya'll talking about backspin and stopping on the green and I'm over here with my Ping ChipR rolling up from 30 yards out.

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Aint nuthin wrong with that.

Better players 100% want more spin and carry the ball with LW most of the time

Every pro i play with hits LW most of the time

Im not that comfortable and hit 54 some

PW, GW, and SW in my set are all a part of the set. 45, 50, & 54 25 years old. These irons still generate 7500-9500 rpm spin. These irons are mostly full swing shots.

My only non part of the set is the 58 Cleveland CBX LW. 3 years old since I gave up Ping Eye2 + no plus LW.

My LW spin is still at 10,000 rpm+ for 50-100% swings.

The most critical factor in the spin is how clean I catch the ball. A slight fat shot will decrease the spin down significantly.

AggieDruggist89 said:

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PW, GW, and SW in my set are all a part of the set. 45, 50, & 54 25 years old. These irons still generate 7500-9500 rpm spin. These irons are mostly full swing shots.

My only non part of the set is the 58 Cleveland CBX LW. 3 years old since I gave up Ping Eye2 + no plus LW.

My LW spin is still at 10,000 rpm+ for 50-100% swings.

The most critical factor in the spin is how clean I catch the ball. A slight fat shot will decrease the spin down significantly.

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I loved my CBX 58. That was my money club around the greens. I traded up for Mizuno irons recently, though, and switched to a S23 58. Haven't been able to get the hang of it yet. I think the sole grind and bounce make far more difference for amateurs than whether a new face generates more spin than the old worn-out wedge it replaced.

I prefer to chip or pitch just about everything around the green with my 54. It is now four years old and I just sort of adjust my bump and run over time I think to compensate for the old club face. Only issue I face with this is when our course greens get super fast like now…so yes, I need to probably get at least a new 54. 50 and 58 still have life. I could still use my 54 on a slow muni.

Most golfers would score better with no spin on chips and pitches.

Funky Winkerbean said:

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Most golfers would score better with no spin on chips and pitches.

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Chip shots maybe, but definitely not true for pitches.