Koepka applies for PGAT reinstatement

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If Rahm can get out of his contract he'll leave. He hates playing over there. The other 2 no idea. Smith seems like hes lost all drive and enjoys taking it easy. Bryson really loves youtube. He'll want to keep doing that in some capacity if he comes back.
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This is a great point. I didn't think of that.
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ruh roh
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JCA1 said:



Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
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JCA1 said:



my guess is these dates will roll one year in next year's exemption program.
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The PGA Tour will just edit the rules until they entice the players they want back or the ones they want come back. I'm sure it is more than Koepka that is interested.
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You guys don't understand team golf, all the players want it. Long LIV team golf, and long live the Ironheads.
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I do love that Brooks has given "to spend more time with my family" as the reason why he (1) left the tour and joined LIV, (2) quit LIV, and (3) rejoined the tour.

At least he's consistent.
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love it
wanted a payday to play less then LIV made rules they had to play more and more tournaments then said f that let me go back to PGA where we can play in USA
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I haven't been following all this but did Brooks get out of his contract or was it up?

I was under the assumption it was up.
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Ag_07 said:

I haven't been following all this but did Brooks get out of his contract or was it up?

I was under the assumption it was up.


Got out a year early. Haven't seen any reputable reports of what that entailed though.
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JCA1 said:

I do love that Brooks has given "to spend more time with my family" as the reason why he (1) left the tour and joined LIV, (2) quit LIV, and (3) rejoined the tour.

At least he's consistent.


I'm sure he wasn't happy about LIV's lack of progress but since he left he had his first child, and lost a child last year. That changes someone when the demands of the tour are flying all over the world. I'd say without Jena's miscarriage he probably would have finished out his contract before coming over.
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His apathy towards the hit and giggle was overly obvious. Waited his time to bail. Also, he got his brother a paycheck for a hot minute which I'm sure was appreciated. I don't see the other three leaving, but they aren't really missed. If you want to see Bryson, you can find him.
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When I watched the Netflix show the year he joined, it seemed pretty obvious he was going to regret going. He joined at a time where he was pretty down about his injuries after he went on his major run. Talked about wondering if he'd ever be able to play again, and made a dumb decision.
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aggiegolfer2012 said:

When I watched the Netflix show the year he joined, it seemed pretty obvious he was going to regret going. He joined at a time where he was pretty down about his injuries after he went on his major run. Talked about wondering if he'd ever be able to play again, and made a dumb decision.


I'd say he made a pretty damn good decision. He likely cleared over $100M in 3 years and this 'penalty' is nothing for him.
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Bunk Moreland said:

aggiegolfer2012 said:

When I watched the Netflix show the year he joined, it seemed pretty obvious he was going to regret going. He joined at a time where he was pretty down about his injuries after he went on his major run. Talked about wondering if he'd ever be able to play again, and made a dumb decision.


I'd say he made a pretty damn good decision. He likely cleared over $100M in 3 years and this 'penalty' is nothing for him.


It's rumored that he probably forfeited 1/3 of his LIV signing bonus by breaking his contract. So it seems the money wasn't worth it to him.
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JCA1 said:

Bunk Moreland said:

aggiegolfer2012 said:

When I watched the Netflix show the year he joined, it seemed pretty obvious he was going to regret going. He joined at a time where he was pretty down about his injuries after he went on his major run. Talked about wondering if he'd ever be able to play again, and made a dumb decision.


I'd say he made a pretty damn good decision. He likely cleared over $100M in 3 years and this 'penalty' is nothing for him.


It's rumored that he probably forfeited 1/3 of his LIV signing bonus by breaking his contract. So it seems the money wasn't worth it to him.


If that figure is true then he still cleared $80M on the signing bonus and he also earned out on top of that. I don't believe his deal drew against his signing like the lower level guys.
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Plus all his Crush GC equity, bigly
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Bunk Moreland said:

JCA1 said:

Bunk Moreland said:

aggiegolfer2012 said:

When I watched the Netflix show the year he joined, it seemed pretty obvious he was going to regret going. He joined at a time where he was pretty down about his injuries after he went on his major run. Talked about wondering if he'd ever be able to play again, and made a dumb decision.


I'd say he made a pretty damn good decision. He likely cleared over $100M in 3 years and this 'penalty' is nothing for him.


It's rumored that he probably forfeited 1/3 of his LIV signing bonus by breaking his contract. So it seems the money wasn't worth it to him.


If that figure is true then he still cleared $80M on the signing bonus and he also earned out on top of that. I don't believe his deal drew against his signing like the lower level guys.


Bunk, since you've been our resident LIV simp for going on 3 years, why is it that one of the 3 biggest stars LIV had is willing to forfeit tens of millions and cut a check for another $5 mill to leave a league that does so much right only to rejoin the tour that does so much wrong?
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Where is the other guy that kept talking about The Kingdom lol? He basically only posted on this board to pimp LIV.
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JCA1 said:

Bunk Moreland said:

JCA1 said:

Bunk Moreland said:

aggiegolfer2012 said:

When I watched the Netflix show the year he joined, it seemed pretty obvious he was going to regret going. He joined at a time where he was pretty down about his injuries after he went on his major run. Talked about wondering if he'd ever be able to play again, and made a dumb decision.


I'd say he made a pretty damn good decision. He likely cleared over $100M in 3 years and this 'penalty' is nothing for him.


It's rumored that he probably forfeited 1/3 of his LIV signing bonus by breaking his contract. So it seems the money wasn't worth it to him.


If that figure is true then he still cleared $80M on the signing bonus and he also earned out on top of that. I don't believe his deal drew against his signing like the lower level guys.


Bunk, since you've been our resident LIV simp for going on 3 years, why is it that one of the 3 biggest stars LIV had is willing to forfeit tens of millions and cut a check for another $5 mill to leave a league that does so much right only to rejoin the tour that does so much wrong?


I think someone else was the LIV simp. I was fully open to seeing a competitive league try and shake up the stuffiness that was the PGAT. And I enjoyed the LIV golf enough to watch but fully admit (and have admitted) their leadership completely squandered the chance they had to do more.

That said, every mid or top player on the PGAT should be thanking every one of the major players who left for LIV because it forced the very change that the Tour claimed wasn't an issue for years and now they're all benefitting because of it.

Brooks left because he was questioning his health at a key point in his career and got shown FU money. He then had a child. His health got better. His wife decided to stop traveling the world with him as much to be with their child, then they lost a child last year. To stay back in the states with your family after that likely leads one to make a good personal decision, especially when LIV failed to ever take a next step.

And it also helps that the Tour has completely flipped their leadership and vision going forward. Win for everyone.

He also stands to make as much as he wants outside of an equity program for 5 years that would maybe (but probably not) net him as much as he earned by making his previous decision under different circumstances.

Not that hard to follow the logic of his decision.
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What were those innovations that shook the foundations of golf again? Shorts? Music? Range goats?
Bunk Moreland
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JCA1 said:

What were those innovations that shook the foundations of golf again? Shorts? Music? Range goats?


Remind my how much more money the PGAT is doling out to players again?
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Bunk Moreland said:

JCA1 said:

What were those innovations that shook the foundations of golf again? Shorts? Music? Range goats?


Remind my how much more money the PGAT is doling out to players again?


You said, as a fan, the tour was stuffy and you wanted a competitor. What does the purses have to do with any of that? I mean, for the cost of a cup of coffee a day, I'm sure you could sponsor Wyndham Clark. He'd probably send you monthly hand written letters of how well he's doing.

But I couldn't care less about that. I prefer to watch golf, not checking accounts.
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Guys getting a ****load of money to play golf for a living are now getting a somewhat bigger ****load of money to play the same golf for a living. That's basically it.
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I'd also offer LIV as proving the concept that fans want golf serious and stuffy. They aren't interested in the tricked up, music pumping exhibition bs. Fans want serious competition.
class of 03
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We all take losses. Some aren't overly willing to admit.
Bunk Moreland
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JCA1 said:

Bunk Moreland said:

JCA1 said:

What were those innovations that shook the foundations of golf again? Shorts? Music? Range goats?


Remind my how much more money the PGAT is doling out to players again?


You said, as a fan, the tour was stuffy and you wanted a competitor. What does the purses have to do with any of that? I mean, for the cost of a cup of coffee a day, I'm sure you could sponsor Wyndham Clark. He'd probably send you monthly hand written letters of how well he's doing.

But I couldn't care less about that. I prefer to watch golf, not checking accounts.


Then you should enjoy watching LIV. More golf to watch.
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DannyDuberstein said:

I'd also offer LIV as proving the concept that fans want golf serious and stuffy. They aren't interested in the tricked up, music pumping exhibition bs. Fans want serious competition.


Yeah it has to mean something. The event i went to in Houston was fun but it felt like a charity scramble atmosphere wise. It did not fell like a competitive serious event at all.
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DannyDuberstein said:

I'd also offer LIV as proving the concept that fans want golf serious and stuffy. They aren't interested in the tricked up, music pumping exhibition bs. Fans want serious competition.
to a degree. YouTube golf and the internet invitational says silly golf is still big and has its place
class of 03
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There he is!!!!
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class of 03 said:

Plus all his Crush GC equity, bigly


I'm more interested if the rumored numbers were true cash up front payments, or if they were inflated to the captains based on some made up valuation of the teams they were promised equity in.
Just not sure I believe Koepka got $80 million.
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AustinCountyAg said:

DannyDuberstein said:

I'd also offer LIV as proving the concept that fans want golf serious and stuffy. They aren't interested in the tricked up, music pumping exhibition bs. Fans want serious competition.
to a degree. YouTube golf and the internet invitational says silly golf is still big and has its place


I think silly golf has its place. But it works best when the players aren't that good.
Silly golf with serious golfers just isn't fun to watch IMO
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Silly golf in 5-10 minute snippets. No one wants that as real competition; no one wants to watch it for sn extended amount of time. It's like thinking Peyton's flag football team vs Eli's flag football team is some kind of NFL alternative. It isn't. It's just some other brief flash of some other kind of entertainment. But said side entertainment doesn't exist at all without the serious competition. No one gives a **** about Bryson is doing on youtube without him having established himself in serious competitive golf on the PGAT and in majors
 
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