Residental Water Service Main - PVC vs. PEX

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YellAg2004
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I had a leak on the original galvanized line 2 weeks ago, and upon digging it up, found the whole line (not surprisingly) was in terrible shape. I've since had a guy dig up the old line for me, so I just need to put the new line in. I was originally going to run the new line as PEX. When I told my neighbor this, he said that he sells PEX and his technical guys recommend putting it in conduit and not direct burying it. Research online seems to indicate that would be necessary in areas with acidic soil, but I'm not sure that's an issue here in Houston. I think a better argument could be made just to protect it from unintentional damage should someone dig around some point in the future.

The previous owner replaced the last 3' into the house with PVC, so I'm thinking it might be easier to just replace the rest of the line with PVC vs. using PEX and burying the transition from PEX to PVC in a random spot in the yard.

Is there any benefit for using PEX vs. PVC in this application that would justify the extra cost of the conduit and the minor headache of running it in conduit?
YellAg2004
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Some pics for your viewing pleasure. The new galvanized section is the repair I made from the leak 2 weeks ago. The T just down from the meter box is where I assume the irrigation system T's off. The 90* is where it transitions to PVC just before going into the house.


Dill-Ag13
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Just use CPVC and avoid the headache.
JP76
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I have seen pex direct buried but my preference is in conduit or bigger pvc so if you ever have to repipe you don't have to retrench the entire run. A pro for pex is you have zero joints except at the start and finish versus pvc which is also every 10 or 20 ft
FatZilla
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JP76 said:

I have seen pex direct buried but my preference is in conduit or bigger pvc so if you ever have to repipe you don't have to retrench the entire run. A pro for pex is you have zero joints except at the start and finish versus pvc which is also every 10 or 20 ft

This, PEX inside PVC. You want the exterior defense and ease of running inside PVC with the flexability and long term durability of PEX. You already did the hard part of trenching. You dont need schedule 40/80 since you are not going to pressurize it, just using it for outer shell protection so its dirt cheap to run a 2" or 3" PVC in that hole. Run 45* joints at turns instead of 90* joints if you can, makes it easier to rerun if you ever have to. If you are going to replace that full stretch, replace it all the way to the house intake IMO unless you have to bust concrete for this, then just connect it as close as you can to the house. The cost of the PEX and PVC is minimal for the extra length. Digging the trench will be the worst part.
Jason_Roofer
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Man, why go to all this trouble and not just use PVC directly buried instead of all the extra legwork? I've never had a properly Prepped and welded pvc joint fail. And you can minimize joints but going 20' segments.

I like the idea of using pvc as conduit for pex in the case you need to repipe but Why would ever need to repipe?
JP76
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I have fixed many broken pvc water mains over the past 25 years around BCS. Usually happens during the summer in clay soils but have done a few in Jan/feb when it was really raining often. To me it comes down to how long of run. A short main i would be more inclined to just do pvc.
Hagen95
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What are you bedding the plastic lines with? Do you have something other than the black dirt shown in your pics? Go old school and run type K copper tubing. If you have lots of money to throw around that is.
tgivaughn
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My vote

Schedule 40 PVC

+1/4" for better supply if not +1/2" (3/4" meter does not change, else higher rates charged/gallon in our town)
surplus boards on top
compacted select fill supporting pipe
excess black/clay soils elsewhere, perhaps a garden bed perimeter additive
Gotta draw since me got no grammar
YellAg2004
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So I ended up going with 3/4" SCH 40. In a perfect world I would go get 1/2 CY of bank sand to bed the pipe, but with it getting dark at 5pm, I don't have time to go and get the sand and get it in the hole before the guy comes back to backfill the trench. This isn't our forever home, so as long as it holds for 10 years, it'll be fine.

I put a new ground box in to replace the one that had been destroyed, including putting gravel down so it's not constantly full of mud. Will add some pics with the next post.

Thanks to all for the input!
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