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Piece of **** Ramirez disbanded my outfit and reorganized it an integrated outfit.

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From what I recall of D-1, at least when I was there, they were ok with putting minimal effort into recruiting and then convincing a handful of fish to join their outfit during FOW Sunday. Perhaps aiming for more than 4-6 fish a year would've made it more difficult to integrate.

Anyone care to guess which outfit I think was the best?

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Aggie Band?

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Anyone care to guess which outfit I think was the best?

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Aggie Band?

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Anyone care to guess which outfit I think was the best?

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Aggie Band?

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Who dat sayin Who?

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Piece of **** Ramirez disbanded my outfit and reorganized it an integrated outfit.

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From what I recall of D-1, at least when I was there, they were ok with putting minimal effort into recruiting and then convincing a handful of fish to join their outfit during FOW Sunday. Perhaps aiming for more than 4-6 fish a year would've made it more difficult to integrate.

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Actually, the PMS was trying to drive people into integrated outfits, which is why all non-integrated Army outfits suffered for several years. D-1 was recruiting harder with less people than most of the outfits with 60+, just to have their recruits re-routed on FOW Sunday.

Integration is a big change which like any major transition effectively kills much of what makes an outfit. Whether you think intigrated units are superior, equal, inferior, or unquantifiably different it is a massive alteration which is detrimental to tradition.

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Integration is a big change which like any major transition effectively kills much of what makes an outfit. Whether you think intigrated units are superior, equal, inferior, or unquantifiably different it is a massive alteration which is detrimental to tradition.

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As someone who went through a forced integration, this statement could not be more TRUE

So you created a profile to post that? Sounds like someone has an agenda. Not sure why you would flame off on someone and not have the courage to say who you are, but pretty sad.

Fine you created it 9 days ago and made 9 posts.

Still no reason to personally attack someone like that throwing out personal information behind your internet screen.

You guys are going to get this post locked on us......

Time to take out the trash staff

You try to screw up a guy's career and then say "relax...internet"?

You are an epic chode.

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You try to screw up a guy's career and then say "relax...internet"?

You are an epic chode.

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Seems like the guy is trying to screw up his own career. But I agree, it ain't right to help him do so.

Yeah just flag it and move on. Obviously an agenda here. Sick and twisted if you ask me.

Dang it. I'm at Reserves. What did I miss?

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Dang it. I'm at Reserves. What did I miss?

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Names were named that shouldn't have been named, resulting in name-calling. (Succinct, ain't I?)

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Dang it. I'm at Reserves. What did I miss?

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(Same old super stupid former cadets posting stupid stuff)

No mention of B-2...why or why not? I have no affiliation with any outfit as of yet...son will be Class of 2020. So I'm curious of the differences between B-2 and D-2 if much of any. Thanks.

I just went with the outfits I knew and interacted with in my time on the quad. Never really worked with a lot of B-2

Our son will be Class of 2020 and has no desire to consider integrated outfit. He's weighing D-2 and B-2. He's a Construction Science major, military focus to commission active army. Can you give any thoughts on B-2?

You serious Clark? Pot calling the kettle black?

You are an Aggie, to anyone outside Texas A&M 90%+ of our traditions are "pretty gay." More you were (are?) in the Corps! To 90%+ of the University the Corps is "usually pretty gay." I don't think you have a leg to stand on if your position runs along the lines of "I don't understand something &/or don't like something I was not a part of so I am going to dismiss it."

I will make sure to let the IFC, NCAA, NFL, NBA, MLB, Regiment, Group, ect... know.

Also for what it's worth a cadet joining today and branching Infantry or Armor could still probably go there entire career with out serving in a co-ed line unit. Even the most liberal projections don't see either branch ever exceeding 7% female. For obvious reasons the Army is looking to create units with a "critical mass" of females (at least initially), which means even at 7% it will be the minority of line units with women.

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I will make sure to let the IFC, NCAA, NFL, NBA, MLB, Regiment, Group, ect... know.

Also for what it's worth a cadet joining today and branching Infantry or Armor could still probably go there entire career with out serving in a co-ed line unit. Even the most liberal projections don't see either branch ever exceeding 7% female. For obvious reasons the Army is looking to create units with a "critical mass" of females (at least initially), which means even at 7% it will be the minority of line units with women.

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Look, you think fraternities are neat. We get it. That doesn't mean you have to make up fake statistics to bolster your belief that frat outfits are somehow superior

I have known outstanding officers from both modern B-2 and D-2. Outfits change year to year & those are both good choices from the sound of things.

Your at West Point I would expect you to be knee deep in the projections. 7% is not a fake statistic, its the current most optimistic number at the Maneuver Center for Excellence. If you have competing data what is it?

I built data models before the change. You must be ignoring WITA. No officer will go more than a year without having a female in his company. Signal bubbas, CBRN, etc

And big truck guy meant really gay traditions. When I was a junior, a friend from E2 told me about making their fish sit naked together for 12 hours watching gay dude porn. He thought it was great. I thought (and still think) it's one of the dumber hazing games I've ever heard

You are correct. I was only referring to 11 & 19 series, not WITA. You are much more read in than me, and that makes sense.

Holly molly that is gay! I have never heard of a Corps outfit doing something like that! The closest I have ever heard was some D-2 guys (back when Bonfire was still on campus) having to do some borderline absurdly obscene stuff, but nothing like that. That has to be the exception. E-2 was always a weird outfit. Are you sure he was serious and not just pulling your leg? That just seemscrazy to me. If that happened then just wow. Just...

I hope he was kidding...

Tango is correct. I'm talking about similar stuff, and I heard about it from multiple outfits from across the Quad. I'll spare the details since this is a public forum, but especially with one outfit that I was on the fence about joining, I was so glad I didn't. There was actually one integrated outfit that, to my surprise, still did a decent amount of stuff that, again, made me glad I joined the outfit I did.

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Our son will be Class of 2020 and has no desire to consider integrated outfit. He's weighing D-2 and B-2. He's a Construction Science major, military focus to commission active army. Can you give any thoughts on B-2?

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Quite frankly I didn't even know they were all male. Know absolutely nothing about them or any cadets in either outfit.