And this is really happening on a military post

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chrismaroon
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General Boykin is a well-respected man and the Army is bowing down to the pc crowd....again.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/06/02/boykin-bounced-fort-riley-cancels-delta-force-heros-prayer-breakfast-speech.html
Say Chowdah
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This proves that the worst position in America is middle ground.

Nobody listens to us because we don't throw gasoline and everything just annoys us because the squeeky wheels are always getting the grease.

I never went to the prayer breakfasts. Why? I'm an Athiest. But the troops who serve have earned the right to hear him speak.

If the Jewish AF founder experienced anti semitism, there are regulations to follow. This is overkill. This doesn't prevent future discrimination and it wasn't mandatory so why cancel it?

Also, being a anti islamic isn't racism. I am anti islam. I'm also anti apartheid, anti cannibalism, anti fascism, anti nazism, anti communism etc.
bigtruckguy3500
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I feel like this thread would be more deserving of the politics board.
redcrayon
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I think the overly-PC culture of the current military is relevant to this board.
Aggie Infantry
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I am of the increasing opinion that most of the current GOs in today's Army would obey the illegal order odds disarming the American people and loading them one a bus for the FEMA camp.
K2-HMFIC
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LTG Boykin has said some outstandingly dumb things, not the least of which was comparing GWOT to a "Holy War" and a war against Satan.
A fantastic soldier...not so great in retirement.
Presley OBannons Sword
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I am of the increasing opinion that most of the current GOs in today's Army would obey the illegal order odds disarming the American people and loading them one a bus for the FEMA camp.
without a doubt. today's GO's, with a few exceptions, are an embarrassment.
sharpdressedman
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You don't get the third and fourth star without the administration's blessing. Some people are shameless in their climb up the ladder.
Fly Army 97
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You don't get the third and fourth star without the administration's blessing. Some people are shameless in their climb up the ladder.
Yea, but you don't get to be a GO without some damn hard work and competence - I'll be one to disagree with the trend here that today's GOs are an embarrassment or would follow unlawful orders. I can only speak for the Army, but what I see is a pack of GOs who have been fighting as MAJs/LTC/COLs during the last 15 years. Most of that was in the capacity as BN CDRs, BDE CDRs, etc and associated staff levels. But don't take my word for it...watch GEN Milley's opening remarks to AUSA when he took over the Army. Folks like him and those to filled his positions after he left are prime examples of patriots who tell it like it is and lead us in this unique environment.

Just my two cents and maybe all it's worth...

Fly Army 97
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Just FWD to 18:00 and when you get bored 39:00 and 45:00 (downsizing).



My last Chief.
Fly Army 97
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GEN Milley's speech.

Just FWD to 18:00 and when you get bored 39:00 and 45:00 (downsizing).
AirborneAg04
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I am of the increasing opinion that most of the current GOs in today's Army would obey the illegal order odds disarming the American people and loading them one a bus for the FEMA camp.


There is no way a colonel in the US Army is this stupid. You're trolling.
Swing Your Saber
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Agree 100%. Every GO I have worked with was absurdly smart, hard working, & talented. Some were hyper demanding task masters, some were jerks, but all were very intelligent.

As for obeying blatantly illegal orders? Come on. Who is doing that? I would believe there are hyper political GOs who put their own career ahead of almost all else; however I strongly doubt any follow orders to disarm Americans. The ones I knew were as patriotic as anyone & took their duties very seriously. Not just a means to an ends (promotion), but an opportunity to make the Army better. There are DAs & police chiefs in every State who might prosecute illegal orders, but even they are in the minority, & don't undergo 1/100th the scrutiny a GO does.
Trinity Ag
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Agree 100%. Every GO I have worked with was absurdly smart, hard working, & talented. Some were hyper demanding task masters, some were jerks, but all were very intelligent.

As for obeying blatantly illegal orders? Come on. Who is doing that? I would believe there are hyper political GOs who put their own career ahead of almost all else; however I strongly doubt any follow orders to disarm Americans. The ones I knew were as patriotic as anyone & took their duties very seriously. Not just a means to an ends (promotion), but an opportunity to make the Army better. There are DAs & police chiefs in every State who might prosecute illegal orders, but even they are in the minority, & don't undergo 1/100th the scrutiny a GO does.
This.

Posse Comitatus is a serious thing.

The odds of this happening are about zero.
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