Anyone have one of these? After reading some reviews and watching a few videos I may have to start saving my pennies. Currently have the Encore but the Sette seems like a big purge add, especially for espresso.

I have the Sette 270wi and it is great. Being able to single dose the exact weight of grounds that you want directly into the portafilter is really handy. And there are very littly residual grinds left in the machine, which is really great for freshness if you are only making espresso once or twice a day.

I use it exclusively for espresso, because once I get it dialed in for a bag of beans I don't want to be adjusting settings back and forth for regular coffee. I use the Encore for that.

steve00 said:

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I have the Sette 270wi and it is great. Being able to single dose the exact weight of grounds that you want directly into the portafilter is really handy. And there are very littly residual grinds left in the machine, which is really great for freshness if you are only making espresso once or twice a day.

I use it exclusively for espresso, because once I get it dialed in for a bag of beans I don't want to be adjusting settings back and forth for regular coffee. I use the Encore for that.

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I've been wondering what the difference is in the 270wi.

So do you put the whole bag of beans in the hopper and then just set what weight of grounds you want it to spit out? I only single dose on my Encore.

Great idea to use it exclusively for espresso. I would probably do the same. I still need to learn how to really dial in a shot based on different beans.

Appreciate the input and glad to hear you're enjoying the grinder.

I think the primary difference between 270 and 270wi is that 270 has time-based dosing, where 270wi is weight based.

I put a bag of coffee in the hopper, then choose my preset weight of 18 or 20 grams depending on which portafilter I am using, then it shuts itself off once it has ground exactly that weight into the portafilter.

For regular coffee, I weigh the beans from the bag and then only put that much into the Encore hopper and grind them all.

There are some great articles and videos on https://clivecoffee.com/ that I used to learn more about all the different aspects to pulling a good shot. I also bought my grinder and machine from them.

If you're looking for a great grinder for espresso, the Sette is the answer.

If you're looking for a great grinder for coffee, I'd recommend looking into the Virtuoso. I upgraded from the Encore to the Virtuoso three years ago, and it makes a world of difference. Much faster grind time, and much improved grind consistency.

Sette is a great grinder. If you are going to pull the trigger I would do so sooner than later. I am not sure what all is in store for them since they were bought out by Breville. Let me know when you are ready to buy and I will see what deals I can get on it for you.

I give myself $100 a month to buy whatever I want, so I'll need a few months. I think the Sette is like $400?

mrmill3218 said:

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I give myself $100 a month to buy whatever I want, so I'll need a few months. I think the Sette is like $400?

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Yes, with the 270WI running $549.

Well let me know what type of deal you can get on it. Thank you!

If you feel like the extra $150 for the Wi isn't worth it and you can just manually dial in the time adjustment, a couple options would be to buy a refurb 270 directly from Baratza. Doesn't look like they have any right now, but if you keep checking back, they can be had for $299. Another option would be to buy the 30 model and upgrade to the stepless grind adjustment. I think it costs $90. I don't think the 30 doesn't come with the portafilter fork so if you wants hands free that would be an upgrade too, so at that point you might as well just buy the 270.

Been thinking about it and just not sure I will ever be in a spot where I think it's a good idea to spend that much on a grinder. What's a good espresso manual grinder I can get for less than $150?

Probably nothing better than what you already have. And don't go down the espresso rabbit hole with a sub par grinder. It'll never work even with a nice espresso machine. At the very least I would stretch the budget to $195 and get the Sette 30 refurb. When you get irritated later that you can't quite dial it in, add on the stepless grinder adjustment to make it a pseudo 270.

Def what Aggielax said. You will not like the coffee and get turned off pretty quick. I have seen it happen many times.

aggielax48 said:

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Probably nothing better than what you already have. And don't go down the espresso rabbit hole with a sub par grinder. It'll never work even with a nice espresso machine. At the very least I would stretch the budget to $195 and get the Sette 30 refurb. When you get irritated later that you can't quite dial it in, add on the stepless grinder adjustment to make it a pseudo 270.

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What about the 30 would lead me to not quite be able to dial in? What does the 270 have that the 30 doesn't? Sorry I'm a grinder newbie here!

Edit to say it looks like the 270 has an adjustment assembly that you can mod onto the 30. How does this work?

The 30 only has 30 macro adjustments for the grind coarseness. The 270 has those same 30 macros, along with 9 micro adjustments, so you have 270 possible adjustment levels for coarseness.

The 270wi is the only one of the three that can dose by weight. The other two dose by time. While time is generally a decent proxy for how to get 20 grams of grounds once you have it dialed in, it will never be as accurate as weight, as a specific weight is ultimately what you are trying to end up with.

Here is a pretty good comparison of the three - https://www.frenchpresscoffee.com/collections/baratza-sette-grinders-comparison

Gosh thank you for all the info. You guys have been really helpful. Is the micro adjuster easy to put on the 30? From what I can tell the 30 with the micro adjuster is the same as the 270. I don't think I would be too worried about the weight aspect that comes with the 270 Wi because I single dose every grind and just weigh the beans beforehand.

How much does the micro adjuster cost? Also, I'm not sure I really know how to "dial in" a shot. If I were to taste a good shot I wouldn't necessarily think "How can I adjust the grind to make it even better?" Nor would I know what adjustment it would need.I guess my palette isn't quite there yet?

Dialing in a shot is all about going finer or coarser on the grind in order to achieve the optimal shot. Every different bean you use is going to have slightly different properties that need to be adjusted for in order to get the best shot out of those beans. The type of bean, the amount it is roasted, how long since it was roasted, humidity, will all change the properties.

I'm not sure that I could taste the difference unless it was way off, so I use a weight/time based recipe. In my bottomless portafilter, I grind 20grams, then I am looking for the shot to output 30grams into the cup within 25-30 seconds. I also want to see it start outputting into the cup within 5-7 seconds. I have a scale under the cup and my espresso machine has a running timer. The scale has a timer too, but I don't need to use that.

If it outputs too fast, you adjust finer. If it outputs too slow, you adjust coarser. Usually I can get a new bag dialed in within 2-3 shots, and we go through them fast enough that the beans don't age enough to matter before the bag is done.

Thank you. I think it will just come with experience and practice. Having a hard time locating the micro adjustment ring for the 270. Sewing a lot of people online who have put in on the 30 with success, but I just don't know where to buy it.