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***the Bread Thread***

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MichaelJ
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After what I feel is somewhat surprising amount of discourse about a baker struggling with a recipe - it dawned on me that we have a pizza thread but not one for bread.

So here we go - do with what you will. Biscuits can also be discussed as they are bread adjacent.

Here are some pics of my breads I've made.



MichaelJ
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Anyone have experience milling their own flour?
AgNav93
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Italian bread I made this last weekend. I try to make bread every weekend.
Hwy30East
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Great idea for a thread!!!! My wife and I were just talking about baking bread over the weekend. Would love to hear some good recipes/how to tips on this. Particularly a Jalapeño Cheddar loaf and Sourdough bread.
MichaelJ
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I bake almost exclusively off the King Arthur great book of bread
normalhorn
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I've never cooked my own sourdough. Is it worth getting into? The way I hear people talk about it, I'm assuming it's almost as addictive as heroin...
...take it easy on me, I'm a normal horn
MichaelJ
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I maintain a starter and cook mostly sourdough bread - I like the tang.

But my starter mostly lives in my fridge until I'm ready for it - including the feeding, it's a week long process and a 2 day baking process - but fun once you get the hang of it.
Max06
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Also almost exclusively bake sourdough now. KAF's Pain de Campagne mostly, as it works well with refrigerator starter.
Hwy30East
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Wow, that looks good!
Backyard Gator
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MichaelJ said:

Anyone have experience milling their own flour?

I went to Whole Foods once and they had an aisle where you could buy a selection of wheat berries to mill your own flour, as well as some flour they milled in-store. I bought some of the freshly milled flour, honestly didn't notice a difference in taste.

I've thought about buying a grain mill just for my zombie apocalypse kit, but haven't gotten around to it.

Unless you're milling to a fine grain like 00, I honestly don't think it would make a difference at home, and I don't think it is possible to get that fine of a grain outside a factory.
MichaelJ
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I made possibly the worst loaf of bread I've ever made this weekend.

No pics because I want to pretend it didn't happen

Currently working on sourdough discard English muffins
MichaelJ
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Thanks - I've tossed around the idea - it just seems like a lot for something I know I won't do regularly

But everyone always talks about how stripped down American flour is that I'm. Curious
IowaAg07
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I make focaccia pretty regularly and we use it for sandwiches, homemade pizza, and assorted snacks. I also make parker rolls and hoagies that have turned out pretty well.

Are we counting biscuits as bread or their own thing?


Chipotlemonger
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Biscuits are most definitely bread. If they're not bread, what the heck would they be characterized as?
MichaelJ
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This is for sure a biscuit friendly thread
ValleyRatAg
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I've made parker house rolls and cinnamon rolls this past year. I've always made biscuits but decided to start dabbling with breads last year. Im very interested in this thread.
Backyard Gator
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MichaelJ said:

Thanks - I've tossed around the idea - it just seems like a lot for something I know I won't do regularly

But everyone always talks about how stripped down American flour is that I'm. Curious

I hear from people all the time how bread in Europe tastes better than bread in America. The reasoning I hear is they don't put preservatives in their flour. The problem with that logic is the wheat used to make European flour is grown in America, famously in Arizona.

I don't think it has anything to do with preservatives, because I've imported Italian flour (which apparently was grown here but milled there), and I don't think it makes a huge difference.

I suspect (but have no proof) that because some European towns exist in a more day-to-day culinary culture where they go to the local market to buy everything they're going to use to make meals that day, their consumption of bread made by corporate bakeries is far less than it is here. When they eat bread, it is from a local market where a baker made it that day.

Because there is less corporate control of bread, they still use traditional bread-making techniques, and didn't strip their bread of all nutrients in order to make a cheaper version in order to maximize profitability.

Just my theory.
Backyard Gator
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For the newbie bread bakers wanting an easy recipe to cut their teeth on, here is one:

KA simple focaccia recipe

If you click on the link, it will show you a 'crispy cheesy pan pizza' recipe that won their recipe of the year in 2020, but it really a focaccia recipe. When you get to step #10, instead of putting cheese and sauce on, you simply leave the dough in the pan as is, and put it in a 450 degree oven for 20 minutes. The result is perfectly light and fluffy focaccia.













If you, like me, are a fan of muffuletta sandwiches and Schlotzski's sandwiches, this bread is perfect for you. It makes a delicious sandwich bread, and it is easy to make. The only thing you need is time, and I recommend starting the day before so you can let the dough rise overnight. The recipe says you can let it cold ferment up to 72 hours, but that is more for flexibility. 12 hours is plenty of time.

This is a no-knead dough, though, so I recommend it for rookies considering making their first bread.
IowaAg07
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I use that recipe for Detroit style pizza in my cast iron. I recommend buying some KA 00 flour to get maximum crust chewiness.

https://thecafesucrefarine.com/ridiculously-easy-focaccia-bread/ is the recipe I use for focaccia, using half bread flour and half all purpose flour. It's also no knead and uses a cold ferment, so similar amount of effort
IowaAg07
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Then I humbly submit my garlic bread biscuits a la https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/garlic-bread-biscuits
TikiBarrel
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I have my sourdough recipe memorized at this point!
120g SDS
300g tepid water
1 T sugar
2 t salt
525g flour of choice. I usually use bread flour.
Just enough olive oil to grease the bowl you'll let it rise in.
500F in a preheated Dutch oven (lid on) for 25 minutes. Another 10-15 minutes at 450 with the cover off. I'd post pics but I'm a basic ***** at the moment.
AlaskanAg99
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Im a home brewer and I mill all my own grain for brewing. My wife bakes but weve never milled wheat berries but I have looked into it. Aside from preservatives the bigger issue is oxidization of the flour where it loses 40-45% vitamin content in 24hrs and 95% after 3 days.

This is the same for grains used in brewing, I generally mill the grist less than an hour before mashing. It does make a difference in the final beer.

The gaps are adjustable on the mill so a fairly easy process, and my mill is motorized. This isnt a corona hand crank mill. I'd assume you'd then have to sift the flour from the husk but that must means buying the right sized sifter.

Anyway, been thinking about this for awhile, maybe I need to get off my butt and do it.

https://www.unsifted.com/pages/nutrients-in-flour-deteriorate-over-time-after-milling


Also, wife exclusively uses King Arthur flour.
aTm '99
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