Basketball Enters Rebuilding Mode

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We lose 78.5% of minutes played this year. This was supposed to be the year.

Wade Taylor
Henry Coleman
Andersson Garcia
Zhuric Phelps
Manny Obaseki
Hayden Hefner
Jace Carter
CJ Wilcher

That is an insanely senior based team. I guess we move onto our next 6 year plan.
Dimond1968
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Kind of was the year. Won a lot of games beat a number one team. Lost in a single elimination game against a team that was way better than a five.
TAMUallen
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No more Hefner, stats will improve
Honolulu Blue
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Wait. What are we rebuilding from?
sincereag
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Yeah, and Cal had a real tough job rebuilding at Arky and look at what he's accomplished in Year 1. Great coaches find their players. I consider Buzz a good coach and he will find good replacements in the portal to go with our returning players.
phorizt
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It will be a miracle if we make the tourney next year imo.
sharpdressedman
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The rebuild will be accomplished with plywood and bailing wire.

The AD can't/won't spend the money necessary to buy a championship caliber coach and rent enough top tier players who can compete for one.

Manage your expectations within the framework of reality. Making the NCAA tourney is the criterion for success.
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we had the most experienced roster in college basketball and got embarrassed in the first weekend.

What else do you want?
TxAg76
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Do any of those guys have any +1 year potential?
Even if it's the Diego Pavia route?
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Dimond1968 said:

Kind of was the year. Won a lot of games beat a number one team. Lost in a single elimination game against a team that was way better than a five.
lol. Auburn was coming off winning the SEC the previous game vs Alabama, and shot awful…still had us close.
sincereag said:

Yeah, and Cal had a real tough job rebuilding at Arky and look at what he's accomplished in Year 1. Great coaches find their players. I consider Buzz a good coach and he will find good replacements in the portal to go with our returning players.
Zero evidence anything will change for the better.
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ccolley68
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Brother Shamus said:

BAS
I mean, is it really even a syndrome anymore? Or should we just call it BAR (battered Aggie reality)?
Method Man
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If you don't have BAS I'm assuming you're delusional.
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ccolley68 said:

Brother Shamus said:

BAS
I mean, is it really even a syndrome anymore? Or should we just call it BAR (battered Aggie reality)?


Exactly. The fans who are happy with mediocrity are the ones living in fantasy land. They are fine with never winning anything in the big 3 sports and settling for winning in sports no one actually cares about or follows.

And, the decision makers only care about $$$$$$. Aggies keep on going to games and they keep on reaping the rewards. Perpetual loop of suckiness. I didn't watch either game - I already knew the outcome. Buzz's coaching ineptitude would rear its ugly head. And, it did.
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Gap said:

We lose 78.5% of minutes played this year. This was supposed to be the year.

Wade Taylor
Henry Coleman
Andersson Garcia
Zhuric Phelps
Manny Obaseki
Hayden Hefner
Jace Carter
CJ Wilcher

That is an insanely senior based team. I guess we move onto our next 6 year plan.


Coleman, Hefner, Carter, Wilcher. Them having major minutes is a problem. Who cares if you're senior heavy if those seniors rarely add value?
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GenericAggie said:

Gap said:

We lose 78.5% of minutes played this year. This was supposed to be the year.

Wade Taylor
Henry Coleman
Andersson Garcia
Zhuric Phelps
Manny Obaseki
Hayden Hefner
Jace Carter
CJ Wilcher

That is an insanely senior based team. I guess we move onto our next 6 year plan.


Coleman, Hefner, Carter, Wilcher. Them having major minutes is a problem. Who cares if you're senior heavy if those seniors rarely add value?
conversely no one returning next year was taking their minutes, not great
B-1 83
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With enough money, a team can be bought. It's 2025, and NIL rules.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
Maroon Dawn
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B-1 83 said:

With enough money, a team can be bought. It's 2025, and NIL rules.


Except our AD pours all our money into the eternal 8-5 football mediocrity machine instead
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Maroon Dawn said:

B-1 83 said:

With enough money, a team can be bought. It's 2025, and NIL rules.


Except our AD pours all our money into the eternal 8-5 football mediocrity machine instead


Now now let's not be short sighted

We also dumped a lot of money into baseball to not win a conference game
AgEfan
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I don't know if we have the money to get what we need in the portal. We were behind in basketball and I think seeing what football has done and what baseball is doing this year, people that matter are probably rethinking do they want to continue to give what they have to NIL. It's not producing results. Donors went in heavy on baseball 9 months ago and now...
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zooguy96 said:

They are fine with never winning anything in the big 3 sports and settling for winning in sports no one actually cares about or follows.
Is meat judging a sport?
Just Tired
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Honolulu Blue said:

Wait. What are we rebuilding from?
the basketball equivalent of a double-wide trailer. nothing to brag about but better than a single-wide.

the problem is aggie basketball has been virtually homeless for so long, the learned helplessness makes some in the fanbase look upon this season as graceland.
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AgEfan said:

I don't know if we have the money to get what we need in the portal. We were behind in basketball and I think seeing what football has done and what baseball is going this year, people that matter are probably rethinking do they want to continue to give what they have to NIL. It's not producing results


This is going be interesting to watch. Everyone says NIL is what matters most. But how far can we go until there's no point in throwing away money. Baseball is a great example, it's a total waste.
misterguinness
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I would be surprised if Payne comes back. After his tourney performance he will get paid.
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misterguinness said:

I would be surprised if Payne comes back. After his tourney performance he will get paid.


He's not going anywhere unless Buzz leaves. You underestimate the relationship he has with these guys and their families.
TMartin
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SEC basketball is getting stronger and even tu is not standing pat. You know exactly what you're going to get from A&M basketball next year so stop worrying about it.
AgEfan
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TMartin said:


SEC basketball is getting stronger and even tu is not standing pat. You know exactly what you're going to get from A&M basketball next year so stop worrying about it.


What are we getting next year? I have absolutely no clue as we have no idea what the roster will look like.
ccolley68
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kyledr04 said:

AgEfan said:

I don't know if we have the money to get what we need in the portal. We were behind in basketball and I think seeing what football has done and what baseball is going this year, people that matter are probably rethinking do they want to continue to give what they have to NIL. It's not producing results


This is going be interesting to watch. Everyone says NIL is what matters most. But how far can we go until there's no point in throwing away money. Baseball is a great example, it's a total waste.


This is the part of NIL that I think is coming home to roost very soon. When it was new and novel, donors and such were willing to put up some big money to try and buy a title in short order. And they weren't paying market value, and not getting any ROI either in titles or what the 'intention' was, in business returns. Those guys didn't get rich enough to put up that kind of money by pissing it away. How long will they continue to pony up for what we are putting out there?

In its purest form, NIL was supposed to be essentially players getting endorsement deals like pros. If I own Gillette razors and I pay Tom Brady $10M a year to be in commercials using my razors, but I don't sell more razors, I'm not going to keep paying Tom Brady that money. I'm not paying him to play for the Pats or Bucs or whatever team was my team du jour. right now NIL is all about getting the kid to the school, with no intention of getting anything back but wins. If the wins don't come, AND my business isn't helped, you get what, 2-3 years? Maybe 5 years of me sinking money into something I get nothing for before I stop? I would even think in some cases NIL hurts some of these businesses because it's just an ugly side of college sports that people (myself being one) don't want to proliferate. And I need XYZ product and there are two options to get it and one is one of the gross NIL businesses, I'm probably going to option B instead.
TMartin
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"Basketball enters rebuilding mode."

Yup, along with baseball and football.

Rinse and repeat.
zooguy96
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We're never rebuilding.

Because we never win anything.

We're always spinning our wheels in the perpetual mud.
I know a lot about a little, and a little about a lot.
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AgEfan said:

misterguinness said:

I would be surprised if Payne comes back. After his tourney performance he will get paid.


He's not going anywhere unless Buzz leaves. You underestimate the relationship he has with these guys and their families.
some kids want to develop their overall game and make a career out of this sport not just focus on offensive rebounds and life lessons
ParkerAg
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Payne certainly developed his game throughout this year and season. He was night and day better as the year went on. To say he is not developing as a player is a huge understatement.
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AgEfan said:

TMartin said:


SEC basketball is getting stronger and even tu is not standing pat. You know exactly what you're going to get from A&M basketball next year so stop worrying about it.


What are we getting next year? I have absolutely no clue as we have no idea what the roster will look like.


See this year's baseball team. That's what we're getting next year.
ny_aggie
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Funny looking at the roster. It is all Seniors/Grads and freshman. No sophomores and 1 or 2 Juniors? Are any of these freshman any good?

https://12thman.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster
bobinator
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I mean not really. This year's baseball team is like if this year's basketball team absolutely sucked. Like the basketball team, they brought back most of the roster including an all-time great.

Next year's basketball team is going to have four guys that have ever even logged minutes for us and two of them played a combined 74 minutes.
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