If Buzz Leaves, It should Be Beard.

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Clutch your pearls all you want, but it's gotta be Beard.

Class of '23 here whose father graduated in the 90's and a grandfather who was here in the '50s. Between the three of us, we have seen ONE major championship, and my grandfather was four years old when that happened. Nothing but endless losses in the most unfortunate ways, led by coaches with zero winning mentality.

Seeing names pop up from smaller programs and mid-majors, and it makes me sick. We continually support the hiring of losers, and then cry and act surprised when these losers lose. I'm sick and tired of it. Perhaps we change that with someone who can actually make it past the second round -- Just a thought!

And don't come at me with the CWS nonsense from last year. That should be the standard for a school with as many resources as we have -- yet it isn't.

- Isaac Paredes
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If this board is going to be delusional about hiring someone we have no chance at why is it Beard?

Why not decide we should bring Tony Bennett out of retirement or hire Scott Drew?
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Do whatever it takes to lure Tom Izzo out of Lansing.
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This,didn't need another thread.
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bobinator said:

If this board is going to be delusional about hiring someone we have no chance at why is it Beard?

Why not decide we should bring Tony Bennett out of retirement or hire Scott Drew?


Well hell, if we're going that route, lets go for Coach K, or Roy Williams, or Jay Wright!
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About as likely!
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Unfortunately (and this will rub a lot of people the wrong way), a large chunk of A&M's fanbase embraces a loser culture. We care more about things like the yell leaders than we do about finding coaches who make stuff happen. Buzz is an above average coach, has given us a solid stretch of years, and I know it'll be tough to find a better replacement, but until we raise our expectations, we'll be stuck being the "competitive but nothing special" program. This sports program is the Dallas Cowboys of college sports - a lot more bark than bite. Call me a hater, sip, or whatever you want, but if we want to be taken seriously, we have to stop crying when people criticize our teams and need to more consistently demand higher standards. When this much money goes into our sports programs compared to most other universities, it is completely reasonable to expect better results.
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bobinator said:

If this board is going to be delusional about hiring someone we have no chance at why is it Beard?

Why not decide we should bring Tony Bennett out of retirement or hire Scott Drew?
You mean the guy who retired just months ago because he hates the new transfer portal / NIL or someone who is going to take his last breath wearing green and gold? And you call me delusional!

Might as well give Bruce Pearl a call at that point! Hell, maybe Kelvin Sampson too!
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hoyag23 said:

bobinator said:

If this board is going to be delusional about hiring someone we have no chance at why is it Beard?

Why not decide we should bring Tony Bennett out of retirement or hire Scott Drew?
You mean the guy who retired just months ago because he hates the new transfer portal / NIL or someone who is going to take his last breath wearing green and gold? And you call me delusional!

Might as well give Bruce Pearl a call at that point! Hell, maybe Kelvin Sampson too!


You missed the sarcasm by a mile
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Bill self has good ins with adidas, clearly it's him
bobinator
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Nobody on this board gives a **** about the yell leaders and compared to elite basketball programs we are not putting that much money into our basketball program.

If we were then our last four coaches wouldn't be from UTEP, Wichita State, Murray State and Virginia Tech.
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MarcAg said:

hoyag23 said:

bobinator said:

If this board is going to be delusional about hiring someone we have no chance at why is it Beard?

Why not decide we should bring Tony Bennett out of retirement or hire Scott Drew?
You mean the guy who retired just months ago because he hates the new transfer portal / NIL or someone who is going to take his last breath wearing green and gold? And you call me delusional!

Might as well give Bruce Pearl a call at that point! Hell, maybe Kelvin Sampson too!


You missed the sarcasm by a mile
Thanks, Marc! You missed mine as well. Happy Friday!
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Since we're on the topic of Chris Beard, let's bring up Ole Miss. Prior to Beard, Ole Miss had 3 tournament appearances in the past 21 years. That's not even close to good, but here they are getting a coach like Beard. The excuses have run dry. They're no endless well of basketball wealth, so if they can get a hire like that, so can we. I don't expect us to compete in recruiting with the likes of Duke and Kansas, but we can certainly do better. xoxo
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Bill Self is probably more likely than Chris Beard.
bobinator
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Ole Miss didn't do any sort of genius scouting or analysis and uncover a hidden gem. They got him because nobody better wanted him.
zbryan
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And in 2 years, he's already made it farther in the tourney than Buzz has at A&M. Next.
bobinator
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What point are you even making? Nobody is debating that Beard is a great coach.
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Let's have some pride folks. That POS shouldn't even be on our radar. Domestic abuse should be a show-stopper in our hiring process.
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zbryan said:

Since we're on the topic of Chris Beard, let's bring up Ole Miss. Prior to Beard, Ole Miss had 3 tournament appearances in the past 21 years. That's not even close to good, but here they are getting a coach like Beard. The excuses have run dry. They're no endless well of basketball wealth, so if they can get a hire like that, so can we. I don't expect us to compete in recruiting with the likes of Duke and Kansas, but we can certainly do better. xoxo


You can't honestly think that hiring Chris Beard 2 years ago and today is the same thing, right?
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Good evening Bobinator - you can refer to my initial message to see my point, but since I'm feeling generous, I'll restate it here. A&M should expect more than just to be a gritty 20-win team. If we don't want to strive for more, then we will be stuck in this cycle. It is completely rational to expect better results, so why does it give half this board an aneurysm when someone mentions finding a new coach in hopes for more success?
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zbryan said:

Call me a hater, sip, or whatever...

Tell me you're a new poster without telling me you're a new poster.
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That loud whooshing sound you heard was the joke going over your head
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Man you know what? I sat through every one of those losses under Watkins. I prayed for an appearance in the tournament.

If this nothing special program yields an appearance in the Big Dance on yearly basis, I'm okay with that.

I just don't see how that's a lower mentality knowing that you have to be one of the best college basketball teams to make the tournament every year.

#dontfeedthetrolls
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You can expect whatever you want to expect but I don't see the point of expecting things that are, by all observable evidence, extremely unlikely to happen.

Chris Beard is a top ten or so coach that Ole Miss was only able to hire because his alma mater fired him FOR BEATING UP A WOMAN in the middle of the season. Ole Miss doesn't care about that, fine, they got a top ten coach they'd have never been to get otherwise.

You got any more of those lying around? Proven top ten coaches that we can hire for under 15-20 million dollars? Because if not then whoever we're going to hire is going to be some level of crap shoot.

That's the reality,
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Honestly the number of people who have absolutely no hesitation in wanting to hire a guy that our biggest rival fired for putting his hands on a woman is disgusting.

Beard is absolutely a phenomenal coach, but he's not the only one.
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"Allegedly" dude is a great basketball coach and may or may not be a women beater.
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Why would he rather be here than ole miss? If he leaves it will be for a better job
bobinator
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If you throw out the off court stuff AND assume his contract isn't a big hurdle (it is, but just for pretend let's say it's not) then that part isn't THAT unlikely. He's a Texas guy. He went to high school in The Woodlands. He's got people here. Never know if that means anything but plenty of people on here swore he was never leaving Tech for Texas even though he was an alum.
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Beard is about as likely as McCasland. Not going to happen. Would be thrilled if it did, but we're stuck now. Willard is about to be official at Villanova…
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GrayMatter said:

Man you know what? I sat through every one of those losses under Watkins. I prayed for an appearance in the tournament.

If this nothing special program yields an appearance in the Big Dance on yearly basis, I'm okay with that.

I just don't see how that's a lower mentality knowing that you have to be one of the best college basketball teams to make the tournament every year.

#dontfeedthetrolls
I love that you openly are fine with us being considered a top-64 team in the country. Examples like this are why the rest of the world laughs at us. All the resources in the world, and we have people that are overjoyed with just being included in the tournament. What an incredibly embarrassing comment.

We used to ride on horses but now that we have the Model T, so there's no need for other cars!

And also! I wasn't aware that speaking truth about the current state of your athletic program makes you a troll. Grown man crying about others wanting more out of athletic programs that millions of dollars are funneled into every year. What a joke.
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bobinator said:

If this board is going to be delusional about hiring someone we have no chance at why is it Beard?

Why not decide we should bring Tony Bennett out of retirement or hire Scott Drew?


Why not use our resources to clone John Wooden? The vet school has cloned animals, surely we could get our own Wooden. Or Bobby Knight. Or both!

The majority of the coaches for the major mens sports at this university during this century of mediocrity have lasted about 4-6 years. Let's run off the coach who has been objectively successful and who has improved each of his 6 years here. 6 years is the limit. We need to start from scratch again. We can get any coach we want because we have the money, right? If you disagree with this, then you are just accepting mediocrity.
bobinator
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Cloning, now you're thinking outside the box, I like it
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Ags #1 said:

"Allegedly" dude is a great basketball coach and may or may not be a women beater.
The police report noted bite marks on his fiance's arm. She withdrew her statement and said he was acting in self defense. I doubt that is the case as I cannot rationalize a scenario where a man would need to bite his spouse to defend himself.

It seems like best case: Beard has such poor judgment that he was engaged to a woman who he somehow needed to defend himself from by biting her and responding in other ways physically.

Worst case: Beard beat his fiance.

Neither option sounds like someone I'd want representing A&M or leading a group of young men.
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Lol sorry that was sarcasm. Meant the smily face icon. He surely did lay hands on her and just withdrew charges to try and save his job. The question for a school is are you ok with that? Ole miss clealry is. A&M would never ever hire someone with that sort of baggage
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What's a fianc?
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