dixichkn said:

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What's a fianc?

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The formatting/arcane rules delete the e rather than concede a letter to the accent mark notwithstanding the illusion that the post looks like it can pull it off with aplomb. One of those things like the disappearing hyphen in quoted articles.

Ole Miss was very smart to hire Beard once the charges got dropped by the APD. Ole Miss gave a top 10 coach a place to go when nobody else would touch him. And now, Ole Miss' major risk has become a major reward. But the reward become the risk, not that he's gonna get involved in that stuff again, but that someone else higher up the food chain will want him. That'll happen soon enough, just like it happened for Rick Pitino.

But this place isn't where someone like Beard will come and coach. These guys only want the jobs that have shown the ability to go to Final Fours, assuming all things are equal for them. Chris Beard's next job will be at some place like LSU or Louisville, where big time success has happened before and they have money to pay.

Good question
Buzz probably wants more money and an extension either from us or his new employer

Possible the program takes step back given how many key players are graduating and how good the SEC is.

Imo Buzz will get fired if he missed the tourney the next 2 years

which makes starting over at MD with a new deal more money and a 6 year guarantee would be something that Buzz obviously wants

Didn't watch the game, but espn crawl line said Ole Piss was up by 10+ and allowed a large comeback win for Mich St.? If true, Beard and Buzz have something in common…let teams choke vs. Big10 team from Mich in the tournament (but Beard did it a rd of 16 at least vs 2 seed).

Is the official name of the school the University of Mississippi or Ole Miss?

Is Ole Miss short for Old Mississippi or is it just short for Ole Miss?

The timing is right for Beard. He has 10 seniors on this team. He is from Texas. Who wouldn't want to coach at the largest school in the country. Its ripe for a guy like Beard

zbryan said:

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Unfortunately (and this will rub a lot of people the wrong way), a large chunk of A&M's fanbase embraces a loser culture. We care more about things like the yell leaders than we do about finding coaches who make stuff happen. Buzz is an above average coach, has given us a solid stretch of years, and I know it'll be tough to find a better replacement, but until we raise our expectations, we'll be stuck being the "competitive but nothing special" program. This sports program is the Dallas Cowboys of college sports - a lot more bark than bite. Call me a hater, sip, or whatever you want, but if we want to be taken seriously, we have to stop crying when people criticize our teams and need to more consistently demand higher standards. When this much money goes into our sports programs compared to most other universities, it is completely reasonable to expect better results.

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Sadly, I believe this story of A&M more and more every year while I watch Texas win Lierfield Director Cups year after year as the best athletic program in the nation.

CDC is a visionary that is willing to win at ANY costs.

We keep trying to follow them and fail over and over. It isnt fun being their little brother but it is awfully truthful in reality.

For my mental health, I have little expectations across any sports program with a hell of a lot of hope.

If we are going to get an ahole who picks on people let's go after Gregg Marshall. He beats players not wives and his daughter is hot. What's not to love ?

hoyag23 said:

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bobinator said:

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If this board is going to be delusional about hiring someone we have no chance at why is it Beard?

Why not decide we should bring Tony Bennett out of retirement or hire Scott Drew?

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You mean the guy who retired just months ago because he hates the new transfer portal / NIL or someone who is going to take his last breath wearing green and gold? And you call me delusional!

Might as well give Bruce Pearl a call at that point! Hell, maybe Kelvin Sampson too!

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The point is, they're all just as likely. Your OP is delusional. Ole Miss already pays him more, their NIL game is rolling. Why do you think we have a prayer to lure him away?

And if Buzz does leave, we will pluck another mid-major coach with 'potential' at 1/2 the salary of Buzz as it fits all narratives of our athletic dept and program.

Personally, find it difficult that Buzz would leave for more money (maybe it's truly about an extension) if he's truly a ministry seeking coach (at least that's what he wants portrayed...more power to him), but think the social media attacks on him and then his players is what he may be having a hard time about. Think there was a huge tell when he talked about the SW attacks (racial) and think he believes it's from A&M fanbase (whether it's tshirt fans or not, he hinted at it). Hence, this is in his mind and why shopping around IMO.

Again, he's in the first year of a new contract. I haven't seen any public info of the buyout to hire him but since the whole point of the deal was to keep him from Arkansas I'm sure it's huge.

Again, even if you can live with the off the court issues, his contract is probably a prohibitive hurdle unless some of our rich alums just decide they want him to spite Texas.

Why would Chris Beard come to A&M? We're a lateral move at best to Ole Miss

If he wants to come, i'm all aboard but that aint happening

I starred your post, even though I don't want Beard who has abuse-baggage and he's a *****. If we don't hire a major conference winning coach, then it better be someone who can recruit…bc we've seen these mid-major coaches be unable to recruit here.

dixichkn said:

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What's a fianc?

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I was typing on my phone and put the symbol above the e, but for some reason, TexAgs does not have the capacity to handle such a symbol so it just deleted the e entirely when I posted lol

dcg4403 said:

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zbryan said:

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Unfortunately (and this will rub a lot of people the wrong way), a large chunk of A&M's fanbase embraces a loser culture. We care more about things like the yell leaders than we do about finding coaches who make stuff happen. Buzz is an above average coach, has given us a solid stretch of years, and I know it'll be tough to find a better replacement, but until we raise our expectations, we'll be stuck being the "competitive but nothing special" program. This sports program is the Dallas Cowboys of college sports - a lot more bark than bite. Call me a hater, sip, or whatever you want, but if we want to be taken seriously, we have to stop crying when people criticize our teams and need to more consistently demand higher standards. When this much money goes into our sports programs compared to most other universities, it is completely reasonable to expect better results.

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Sadly, I believe this story of A&M more and more every year while I watch Texas win Lierfield Director Cups year after year as the best athletic program in the nation.

CDC is a visionary that is willing to win at ANY costs.

We keep trying to follow them and fail over and over. It isnt fun being their little brother but it is awfully truthful in reality.

For my mental health, I have little expectations across any sports program with a hell of a lot of hope.

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A) The Director's Cup is pretty stupid. Stanford wins it routinely despite being horrible in football and missing the tournament regularly in basketball. Texas won it the year they went 5-7 in football. Who cares about an award that factors in 19 total sports...16 of which none of us remotely care about?

B) If he is willing to win at ANY cost, wouldn't that tell you something about his decision to fire Beard?

GrayMatter said:

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Man you know what? I sat through every one of those losses under Watkins. I prayed for an appearance in the tournament.

If this nothing special program yields an appearance in the Big Dance on yearly basis, I'm okay with that.

I just don't see how that's a lower mentality knowing that you have to be one of the best college basketball teams to make the tournament every year.

#dontfeedthetrolls

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Don't hit your head on that low bar. You don't have to be one of the best to make the tourney

I still think we just need to accept who we are in the basketball world (this could change overtime if we stay the path)
We need to be hiring up and coming coaches, understanding that they might move on to a place like Kentucky on 3-5 years.
Always be keeping aware of who the next selection of coaches to hire would be. If someone doesn't work out, they are gone after 2-3 years as well.
This does require out AD to actually evaluate talent, but it also costs a little less.
And if you sustain success long enough, building the fanbase and NIL up in the process, maybe one of these coaches wants to stay longer.

hoyag23 said:

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GrayMatter said:

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Man you know what? I sat through every one of those losses under Watkins. I prayed for an appearance in the tournament.

If this nothing special program yields an appearance in the Big Dance on yearly basis, I'm okay with that.

I just don't see how that's a lower mentality knowing that you have to be one of the best college basketball teams to make the tournament every year.

#dontfeedthetrolls

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I love that you openly are fine with us being considered a top-64 team in the country. Examples like this are why the rest of the world laughs at us. All the resources in the world, and we have people that are overjoyed with just being included in the tournament. What an incredibly embarrassing comment.

We used to ride on horses but now that we have the Model T, so there's no need for other cars!

And also! I wasn't aware that speaking truth about the current state of your athletic program makes you a troll. Grown man crying about others wanting more out of athletic programs that millions of dollars are funneled into every year. What a joke.

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No, the not so funny thing is that we've had all these resources for a very long time and have never fielded a team that we care about.

I'm going to ignore the asinine comparison but this forum at best is an opinion board and I fail to see how any of our expectations is going to change things.

I'll hang up and listen.

Craigy said:

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GrayMatter said:

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Man you know what? I sat through every one of those losses under Watkins. I prayed for an appearance in the tournament.

If this nothing special program yields an appearance in the Big Dance on yearly basis, I'm okay with that.

I just don't see how that's a lower mentality knowing that you have to be one of the best college basketball teams to make the tournament every year.

#dontfeedthetrolls

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Don't hit your head on that low bar. You don't have to be one of the best to make the tourney

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Since when is making the tournament in consecutive years not enough?

bobinator said:

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Again, he's in the first year of a new contract. I haven't seen any public info of the buyout to hire him but since the whole point of the deal was to keep him from Arkansas I'm sure it's huge.

Again, even if you can live with the off the court issues, his contract is probably a prohibitive hurdle unless some of our rich alums just decide they want him to spite Texas.

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Speaking of Arkansas, I never thought I would say this, but Calipari would be an interesting target if Buzz were to leave, and if we were interested in paying a $6 mil buyout to Arky.

At Kentucky, I always thought of Calipari as a hired-gun type of coach, whose major talent was bringing together elite talent and getting them to work together... Something he could do at Kentucky, but never at A&M. But not necessarily coaching them up.

But I've changed my mind after seeing him at Arkansas. He truly is an elite coach who can coach up mediocre talent to overachieve. Meltdown in the final minutes of the TTU game notwithstanding, he took a progam not expecting to do anything and having an awful start to the season to a respectable tournament run.

Pipe dream, I know, but it would be a heck of a ride...

Definitely a pipe dream. Even if you made tiers of unrealistic targets he'd be in the absolute top tier.

There's some guys that fall into "unrealistic but maybe Buzz pissed off some people so bad they're going spite-hire someone that would normally be way out of our reach" and Calipari wouldn't even be in that group.

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Definitely a pipe dream. Even if you made tiers of unrealistic targets he'd be in the absolute top tier.

There's some guys that fall into "unrealistic but maybe Buzz pissed off some people so bad they're going spite-hire someone that would normally be way out of our reach" and Calipari wouldn't even be in that group.

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I would 100% agree with that statement if he was still at Kentucky. But he's now at Arkansas.

What makes him so unrealistic as a get from Arkansas? Not arguing. I'm genuinely curious.

ETA: What's a more realistic option? Calipari from Arkansas, or getting Vic back from the sips?

Just on the surface Arkansas is a better program with a much higher commitment to basketball. They average almost twice as many fans a game as we do. We even almost lost BCG to Arkansas.

But specific to Calipari, they made an absolutely massive investment to get him. Their roster this year cost $10M and next years is probably going to be even higher and his annual salary is $8M.

To put together a package to entice Cal you're looking at a cost of like $20M right off the bat plus about that much every year and that's assuming Arkansas won't match it and drive it even higher.

You have to remember that basically both sides had to agree that his time had run its course in Lexington. Kentucky was willing to negotiate his buyout down (or waive it completely, not 100% sure on the details) and he had to want to leave because they weren't going to be able to afford to fire him.

I think it is clear Arkansas is a better basketball program than A&M. They are not a blue blood (UCLA, UK, KU, UNC, Duke, UCONN) but I think they are probably in a much larger group of schools right below that.

They play in one of the largest arenas in college basketball, pay Calipari $8M, and are suspected of having one the highest NIL budgets.

We are not even close to Arkansas.

jrdaustin said:

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bobinator said:

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Again, he's in the first year of a new contract. I haven't seen any public info of the buyout to hire him but since the whole point of the deal was to keep him from Arkansas I'm sure it's huge.

Again, even if you can live with the off the court issues, his contract is probably a prohibitive hurdle unless some of our rich alums just decide they want him to spite Texas.

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Speaking of Arkansas, I never thought I would say this, but Calipari would be an interesting target if Buzz were to leave, and if we were interested in paying a $6 mil buyout to Arky.

At Kentucky, I always thought of Calipari as a hired-gun type of coach, whose major talent was bringing together elite talent and getting them to work together... Something he could do at Kentucky, but never at A&M. But not necessarily coaching them up.

But I've changed my mind after seeing him at Arkansas. He truly is an elite coach who can coach up mediocre talent to overachieve. Meltdown in the final minutes of the TTU game notwithstanding, he took a progam not expecting to do anything and having an awful start to the season to a respectable tournament run.

Pipe dream, I know, but it would be a heck of a ride...

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Arkansas was preseason #16 and had the #3 recruiting class with a boatload of NIL money on some top transfers. Cal did a great job turning things around after a bad start but the expectations were fairly high going into the year. Wouldn't say the roster talent was mediocre at all.

jrdaustin said:

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bobinator said:

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Again, he's in the first year of a new contract. I haven't seen any public info of the buyout to hire him but since the whole point of the deal was to keep him from Arkansas I'm sure it's huge.

Again, even if you can live with the off the court issues, his contract is probably a prohibitive hurdle unless some of our rich alums just decide they want him to spite Texas.

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Speaking of Arkansas, I never thought I would say this, but Calipari would be an interesting target if Buzz were to leave, and if we were interested in paying a $6 mil buyout to Arky.

At Kentucky, I always thought of Calipari as a hired-gun type of coach, whose major talent was bringing together elite talent and getting them to work together... Something he could do at Kentucky, but never at A&M. But not necessarily coaching them up.

But I've changed my mind after seeing him at Arkansas. He truly is an elite coach who can coach up mediocre talent to overachieve. Meltdown in the final minutes of the TTU game notwithstanding, he took a progam not expecting to do anything and having an awful start to the season to a respectable tournament run.

Pipe dream, I know, but it would be a heck of a ride...

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The Walton family ain't letting Cal walk.

And…..
In addition to Cap, they have Dave Van Horn in baseball and their men and women's track squad is typically top tier. Between the Waltons and Tyson's , NIL is well funded.

powderlyag said:

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And…..
In addition to Cap, they have Dave Van Horn in baseball and their men and women's track squad is typically top tier. Between the Waltons and Tyson's , NIL is well funded.

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And yet their football program isn't good

It doesn't matter who we hire. End results are always the same.

Oh great, every coaching idea deserves it own thread. And lets not do any research before throwing out a name. So Beard is not coming here let me count the ways

1. wife beater - got fired from Texas for it
2. he makes more than Buzz and is not leaving for less
3. his new contract extension is less than a yr old
4. he would have to pay 4.5mil to leave. 3.5mil if he leaves in yr 2 of his contract. 2.5mil in yr 3 and 1mil a yr during the final 3 yrs.

So to wrap it up, we are not going to beat 5mil a yr for him and he is not going to pay 4.5mil to leave. "But but but I really want him so Im going to make my own thread"

Wasn't convinced we would need to move on from Buzz unit I read all the crap on Texags today. Even if it isn't Maryland, it sounds like Buzz wants out.

But I'd rather experience a hundred losing seasons than hire a wife beater (girlfriend, whatever). Character has to count for something.

hoyag23 said:

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- Isaac Paredes

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u play for the Stros?