Ok, so every day every player on the final four team practiced free throws 50% more than Buzz's team, and they were almost certainly better shooters to begin with. 100 FT's a day isn't that much for a college team. Some players try to shoot at least 500 shots a day to improve.BuzzFan24 said:
Yeah except for the fact each player took 100 minimum with Buzz personally every day. But, go ahead.
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You think him rebounding for them was actually about shooting and not about relationship building? Maybe you don't know Buzz like you think you do. Maybe that's why he has one of the highest retention rates in college basketball.montanagriz said:BuzzFan24 said:
Yeah except for the fact each player took 100 minimum with Buzz personally every day. But, go ahead.
So you think this was time well spent by Buzz snd not just have the players or coaches police themselves? I know between buzzs book readings and watching 1200 free throws every day why he didnt have time for recruiting.
Sarcasm fyi but being disingenuous with a phrase we know is untrue undermines your credibility and displays only yoyr emotion or blind loyalty to Buzz
By the way the team FT % stat is heavily overrated for the most part. If you want to be a good FT % team (same with 3P %), your best free throw shooters have to take the bulk of your FT's. For example, take Payne and Carter's FTA out of the equation and we are a 75 FT % team.
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If you think 500 FT's a day is productive use of time, I can't have a realistic conversation with you. But, I guarantee you that is not a sustainable thing teams are doing.Whaler said:Ok, so every day every player on the final four team practiced free throws 50% more than Buzz's team, and they were almost certainly better shooters to begin with. 100 FT's a day isn't that much for a college team. Some players try to shoot at least 500 shots a day to improve.BuzzFan24 said:
Yeah except for the fact each player took 100 minimum with Buzz personally every day. But, go ahead.
Even with the fastest (not even productive or translatable) methods possible that's 15-20 minutes of just free throws per day - not to mention the fatigue that would wear on you from this that would hamper working on other more useful things. If you can't hit them at 100 meaningful reps a day, you aren't going to hit them at 500 reps a day.
And to throw another bone in, these are just FTAs with Buzz - doesn't mean these guys aren't doing more on their own.
There you go... so if "rebounding for them wasn't actually about shooting" and more about relationship building, WTH? It needed to be about shooting, lol. I know Buzz was a good guy and popular with his players, but I don't think he was the best coach. Maybe Buzz had a high retention rate of players cause most our players couldn't shoot the ball well.BuzzFan24 said:
You think him rebounding for them was actually about shooting and not about relationship building? Maybe you don't know Buzz like you think you do. Maybe that's why he has one of the highest retention rates in college basketball.
Anyway, I figure we'll take a step back before getting better because Buzz didn't leave much of a roster. But I welcome the change in coaching philosophy and approach.
Analytics say the granny shot is best for FTs.
Buzz loves analytics.
Nobody on A&M shot granny shot free throws.
Therefore....Buzz didn't really prioritize FTs.
Buzz loves analytics.
Nobody on A&M shot granny shot free throws.
Therefore....Buzz didn't really prioritize FTs.
See my note above - we shot 75% as a team excluding Payne and Carter. That's actually pretty solid.TyperWoods said:
Analytics say the granny shot is best for FTs.
Buzz loves analytics.
Nobody on A&M shot granny shot free throws.
Therefore....Buzz didn't really prioritize FTs.
Considering Payne shot 5 FTA's per game at 58% - it's pretty ironic majority of this board cried about Payne not playing enough yet are crying about the team's FT %
team shot 60% non Taylor free throws
Yeah, if a player is not proficient at something as basic as FTs, but can't spend more than 20 minutes a day to improve -- well, they have no future in basketball.... that's just laughable. Also 500 shots a day should not fatigue a college athlete by any stretch of the imagination. And, I didn't say all of our team needed to shoot 500 a day... I said some players (really driven players) will shoot 500 per day to improve. But, it's clear that shooting 100 per day was not enough for our team.BuzzFan24 said:
If you think 500 FT's a day is productive use of time, I can't have a realistic conversation with you. But, I guarantee you that is not a sustainable thing teams are doing.
Even with the fastest (not even productive or translatable) methods possible that's 15-20 minutes of just free throws per day - not to mention the fatigue that would wear on you from this that would hamper working on other more useful things. If you can't hit them at 100 meaningful reps a day, you aren't going to hit them at 500 reps a day.
And to throw another bone in, these are just FTAs with Buzz - doesn't mean these guys aren't doing more on their own.
Look, I grant you that Buzz was a good guy, but IMO he had some shortcomings as a coach, and I'm happy we have a change.
Nice try, we had two guys on the team shoot below 69% on the year - Phelps (58%) and Carter (39%).Craigy said:
team shot 60% non Taylor free throws
BuzzFan24 said:Nice try, we had two guys on the team shoot below 69% on the year - Phelps (58%) and Carter (39%).Craigy said:
team shot 60% non Taylor free throws
Just did the math: 66% without Taylor's ft
This is nonsense.BCR said:
Shaq didn't play basketball. He stood in the lane shoving people away then took a pass turned around and dunked it. Any player that tried to stop him was called for a foul.
Shaq had very good footwork and refs allowed people to foul him all the time with no whistle.
Ok, get back to yalls stupid free throw discussion.
BuzzFan24 said:See my note above - we shot 75% as a team excluding Payne and Carter. That's actually pretty solid.TyperWoods said:
Analytics say the granny shot is best for FTs.
Buzz loves analytics.
Nobody on A&M shot granny shot free throws.
Therefore....Buzz didn't really prioritize FTs.
Considering Payne shot 5 FTA's per game at 58% - it's pretty ironic majority of this board cried about Payne not playing enough yet are crying about the team's FT %
We never missed when I shot FTs. 100% baby. That's incredibly rock solid. Even without me shooting granny shots.
Thanks for proving my original point - if you want to be a good FT shooting team, your best FT shooters have to take the bulk of your FT's.NyAggie said:BuzzFan24 said:Nice try, we had two guys on the team shoot below 69% on the year - Phelps (58%) and Carter (39%).Craigy said:
team shot 60% non Taylor free throws
Just did the math: 66% without Taylor's ft
BuzzFan24 said:If you think 500 FT's a day is productive use of time, I can't have a realistic conversation with you. But, I guarantee you that is not a sustainable thing teams are doing.Whaler said:Ok, so every day every player on the final four team practiced free throws 50% more than Buzz's team, and they were almost certainly better shooters to begin with. 100 FT's a day isn't that much for a college team. Some players try to shoot at least 500 shots a day to improve.BuzzFan24 said:
Yeah except for the fact each player took 100 minimum with Buzz personally every day. But, go ahead.
Even with the fastest (not even productive or translatable) methods possible that's 15-20 minutes of just free throws per day - not to mention the fatigue that would wear on you from this that would hamper working on other more useful things. If you can't hit them at 100 meaningful reps a day, you aren't going to hit them at 500 reps a day.
And to throw another bone in, these are just FTAs with Buzz - doesn't mean these guys aren't doing more on their own.
Steph Curry shot five hundred free throws a day. Same for Klay Thompson. SGA, Chris Paul, and many of the other best shooters in NBA history.
What idiots!
There's only one poster here that no one can have a realistic conversation with, and that's you.
What a silly high to die on BuzzFan24. Your lord savior is at another school now, maybe it's time to go find a Terps forum to keep the hero worship going for your first weekend flameout.
And to throw another bone in, Buzz ridiculously defended his team's approach to free throw shooting last year by snapping at a reporter that the kids all shot a hundred day, so back off. Maybe Buzz should have kept his trap shut on that or done some introspective on why his team couldn't shoot free throws when it mattered instead of comically insisting that his team practiced them enough when other programs in our own conference are known for having their kids shoot more.
The problem is your logic is flawed.
1) FT shooting wasn't the problem you think it was this year.
2) Simply practicing more FT's doesn't equate to being better at FT's during games.
https://180shooter.com/problems-with-free-throw-practice
And you keep referring back to Buzz when the topic is Free Throws. He's living rent free in your head. Move on pal.
1) FT shooting wasn't the problem you think it was this year.
2) Simply practicing more FT's doesn't equate to being better at FT's during games.
https://180shooter.com/problems-with-free-throw-practice
And you keep referring back to Buzz when the topic is Free Throws. He's living rent free in your head. Move on pal.
We just picked up a career 47.5 % FT shooter at Kansas
MarcAg said:
We just picked up a career 47.5 % FT shooter at Kansas
Clemence?
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In his career, he's averaged 1.7 points, 1.5 rebounds and 0.3 blocks per game for Bill Self and the Jayhawks. Last season, he shot 44.4 percent from the field and 60 percent at the free-throw line.
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Yes. 47.5% during his 3 years at Kansas. That 60 % is the past year when he made 3 of 5. Career he made 19 of 40.
MarcAg said:
That 60 % is the past year when he made 3 of 5.
Not bad!
BuzzFan24 said:
The problem is your logic is flawed.
1) FT shooting wasn't the problem you think it was this year.
2) Simply practicing more FT's doesn't equate to being better at FT's during games.
https://180shooter.com/problems-with-free-throw-practice
And you keep referring back to Buzz when the topic is Free Throws. He's living rent free in your head. Move on pal.
lol. Our team needed to learn to shoot better. From everywhere on the court. There wasn't a coach to teach that though, the vast majority of our kids never improved as shooters under Buzz. Shooting wasn't important to him. He didn't recruit for it, didn't teach it. It's why his teams never could win in March.
Buzz ain't living anywhere near me thanks. I'm not the one with buzz in my user name.
He was a limited winner, didnt take this program to better heights than he inherited it, and he was a jackass to those in the AD, the community, and donors.
Good riddance. And lol at citing the Lakers shot board. You don't make it in the nba very long if you can't shoot. How many Ags did your lord savior Buzz put into the NBA while here?
You're correct. Read that too fast both times
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Thanks for proving my point once again.FTAG 2000 said:BuzzFan24 said:
The problem is your logic is flawed.
1) FT shooting wasn't the problem you think it was this year.
2) Simply practicing more FT's doesn't equate to being better at FT's during games.
https://180shooter.com/problems-with-free-throw-practice
And you keep referring back to Buzz when the topic is Free Throws. He's living rent free in your head. Move on pal.
lol. Our team needed to learn to shoot better. From everywhere on the court. There wasn't a coach to teach that though, the vast majority of our kids never improved as shooters under Buzz. Shooting wasn't important to him. He didn't recruit for it, didn't teach it. It's why his teams never could win in March.
Buzz ain't living anywhere near me thanks. I'm not the one with buzz in my user name.
He was a limited winner, didnt take this program to better heights than he inherited it, and he was a jackass to those in the AD, the community, and donors.
Good riddance. And lol at citing the Lakers shot board. You don't make it in the nba very long if you can't shoot. How many Ags did your lord savior Buzz put into the NBA while here?
That you're a Buzz loving troll at this point?
Shouldn't you be off writing thank you notes like Buzz wants?
Shouldn't you be off writing thank you notes like Buzz wants?
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