**** Game Thread: Texas A&M @ Auburn ****

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In reply to 94chem • 11:35p, 1/6/26
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I think it's probably the right call from a numbers standpoint and if you have a veteran team, etc, etc but for how that game was going it just seems like introducing more chaos into an already chaotic game versus just making it and seeing if a wild series of events can happen.

But that's a coin flip of a call.

My only real issues strategy wise were instantly fouling up 3 the possession before (though that might have been player error), and then throttling back on offense so early. We're just not good at it. We have to just keep the pedal down.
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In reply to bobinator • 11:39p, 1/6/26
bobinator said:
I think it's probably the right call from a numbers standpoint and if you have a veteran team, etc, etc but for how that game was going it just seems like introducing more chaos into an already chaotic game versus just making it and seeing if a wild series of events can happen.

But that's a coin flip of a call.

My only real issues strategy wise were instantly fouling up 3 the possession before (though that might have been player error), and then throttling back on offense so early. We're just not good at it. We have to just keep the pedal down.

I personally didn't hate the throttle back, especially in the last four minutes. Our guys looked gassed, and with Griffen and Agee in foul trouble, Bucky wanted to limit the amount of possessions left in the game, which to me made a lot of sense.

I usually hate when teams move away from their identity trying to put a game away (Buzz teams did it constantly and it infuriated me), but given that situation again I didn't hate it.
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In reply to bobinator • 11:39p, 1/6/26
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I think it's probably the right call from a numbers standpoint and if you have a veteran team, etc, etc but for how that game was going it just seems like introducing more chaos into an already chaotic game versus just making it and seeing if a wild series of events can happen.

But that's a coin flip of a call.



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11:40p, 1/6/26
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It will be interesting to see if Bucky changes his "last 4 minutes with a nice lead" strategy after this game. A great team should be able to do it. So, consider this practice for the next time til we get it right?
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In reply to awrollins • 11:41p, 1/6/26
Also not to mention how volatile the way we typically play basketball is, teams can go and do go 10-0 really quickly if we get just a bit loose (end of 1H was a perfect example).
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In reply to bobinator • 11:42p, 1/6/26
The inability to advance the ball with a stopped clock guaranteed no better than a half-court heave on a missed FT. I thought WE had called the TO. No way, no way at all, should Auburn have called that. You call it after the make or miss and set up your inbound.
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In reply to awrollins • 11:43p, 1/6/26
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I only hated it because we've already seen multiple times this year that we're bad at it. Montana, SMU, LSU all had issues when we tried to stall.
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In reply to EliteZags • 11:44p, 1/6/26
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I think it's probably the right call from a numbers standpoint and if you have a veteran team, etc, etc but for how that game was going it just seems like introducing more chaos into an already chaotic game versus just making it and seeing if a wild series of events can happen.

But that's a coin flip of a call.





Still only got a half court heave, even with 3.6 seconds.
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In reply to 94chem • 11:45p, 1/6/26
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Yeah but if you make it you can't lose unless you foul.

If we were up 1 then I agree you miss it to make the shot harder because it's going to be a three pointer anyway
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11:45p, 1/6/26
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I only hated it because we've already seen multiple times this year that we're bad at it. Montana, SMU, LSU all had issues when we tried to stall.



That's what non conference is for when you have 12 new players.
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11:46p, 1/6/26
On another note, it's absolutely unreal how important Agee is to this basketball team.

One of these days he's going to pick up three fouls in ten minutes and it's going to get ugly. What a player man, wish we had him for more than a year.
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11:47p, 1/6/26
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Yeah but if you make it you can't lose unless you foul.

What just happened with Agee the last game. Fouled with .000001 seconds. I can easily see a scenario that if you let a guy take a couple of more dribbles, gets to half court and THEN you decide to foul him just as he goes up for the shot. I liked the strategy.

But then, I've had 75 years of BAS, so there's that.
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In reply to awrollins • 11:47p, 1/6/26
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He needs to stop committing dumb fouls. He's actually pretty good at playing without fouling but once or twice a game he hacks someone on an offensive rebound he has no chance at 90 feet from the basket
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In reply to bobinator • 11:50p, 1/6/26
bobinator said:
Yeah but if you make it you can't lose unless you foul.

If we were up 1 then I agree you miss it to make the shot harder because it's going to be a three pointer anyway


I'm willing to lose in regulation on a 60 footer any time. Coach K was too, and he had 50% more time. But I was discussing Auburn's strategy. Burning that TO was a total amateur move.
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In reply to bobinator • 11:52p, 1/6/26
bobinator said:
He needs to stop committing dumb fouls. He's actually pretty good at playing without fouling but once or twice a game he hacks someone on an offensive rebound he has no chance at 90 feet from the basket


Where would we be without the traditional Agee dumb foul at the end of the half play? Still 2-0 I guess, but without nitroglycerin tablets.
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In reply to 94chem • 11:52p, 1/6/26
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Yeah and like I said I could go either way on that one really it just felt a little too cute in the moment.

Bucky did say in the postgame that he won't foul up 3 under 5 seconds anymore because of the college basketball continuation rules which is interesting so maybe we really did mean to foul when we did.
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In reply to bobinator • 11:58p, 1/6/26
bobinator said:
Yeah and like I said I could go either way on that one really it just felt a little too cute in the moment.

Bucky did say in the postgame that he won't foul up 3 under 5 seconds anymore because of the college basketball continuation rules which is interesting so maybe we really did mean to foul when we did.


And on the deliberate miss, I get that you might try to throw it hard. If it bounces right, you might get the offensive rebound. However, I'd be worried about glancing off the side of the rim and going out of bounds. I'd go a little softer and make sure it stays in play.
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In reply to 94chem • 12:31a, 1/7/26
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I agree, but I will say shooting it softer and still intentionally missing is actually kind of hard. You see guys all the time try to miss and end up making it, which in this case would have been perfectly okay.
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In reply to bobinator • 12:33a, 1/7/26
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bobinator said:
Yeah and like I said I could go either way on that one really it just felt a little too cute in the moment.

Bucky did say in the postgame that he won't foul up 3 under 5 seconds anymore because of the college basketball continuation rules which is interesting so maybe we really did mean to foul when we did.


I guess I get that but I still would have tried to make them use more time than we did. Are the officials really going to give continuation 70 ft from the basket? Once they're over half court, I understand the thought.
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12:46a, 1/7/26
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Nearly half a second should've ran off when their guy caught the ball to turn and shoot. Clock never started. So the time clearly should have expired before it left his hands. Not even close.
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12:48a, 1/7/26
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Auburn "courtside Cam" - their play-by-play.
https://www.youtube.com/live/SHt3dasipYw?si=XB_F14ROEs7yEkiq
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In reply to bobinator • 2:11a, 1/7/26
bobinator said:
I only hated it because we've already seen multiple times this year that we're bad at it. Montana, SMU, LSU all had issues when we tried to stall.

I saw Bucky call in a stall play on offense pretty late in the game. I think it just will come down to experience. It's the correct call, just have to execute. You can't purposefully keep creating possession for the opponent when you're up like that. The uptempo style is hard to grasp. Running a stall is hard when you haven't mastered the base offense. I just think it will come with time.
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In reply to buckyball34 • 5:59a, 1/7/26
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I agree

It's the right thing to do. And we can go cold going fast as well. Done that several times this year.

I just browsed this entire thread again. A few interesting observations.

Almost double the pages after the game was over.

Aggie Crew 44 makes 3 quick posts bashing Bucky after the last shot is thought to be made. And disappears once reversed. I just love Ags like this that only live to complain.

However, I do see a few posters on here that bash away on the football board but positive on this thread. Interesting, not sure what that's all about. Maybe they just have football BAS.
Gig ‘Em Baby!
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In reply to buckyball34 • 6:46a, 1/7/26
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I mean yeah it's definitely the right thing to do, all things equal. I just don't think it's something we're very good at.

I guess you gotta keep doing it until you get good at it but I'd have just kept going for another couple of possessions.

Of course if we make some FTs and don't panic in the backcourt a few times we're not talking about any of this.

But incredible to be winning anyway while we're figuring this stuff out.
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In reply to bobinator • 7:02a, 1/7/26
bobinator said:
Yeah but if you make it you can't lose unless you foul.


I would tend to agree with your way of thinking but Bucky repeatedly mentions the mentality he wants is to aggressively play to WIN. Not play and be afraid of mistakes or misses, not play to tie, etc.

Considering the previous FT's, the bloody nose, the game flow, the time left, etc - he thought missing the FT was mathematically the most likely way to WIN. We can certainly question it but I'm learning how he approaches things, I think.

I wouldn't have wanted to go into OT given the last few minutes of the game.
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In reply to bobinator • 7:25a, 1/7/26
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Yes

SEC road wins are hard to get!
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In reply to FriscoKid • 7:37a, 1/7/26
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FriscoKid said:
TombstoneTex said:
These lazy passes keep losing us games…

Best part of game threads is highlighting early cliff jumping complainers. FWIW, we won and you missed a hell of a game.

No cliff jumping, and I saw the entire game.

It's an objective fact that there were lazy passes that resulted in turnovers. We had several more lazy passes after that. We clean those up and we walk away from this game without having a heart attack. We are also at least 13-2 without literally throwing away the SMU game.

At this point, can this be coached out of our players? I just don't think so and a few egregious turnovers a game due to lazy/bad passes are going to have to be accepted as a part of this team. We just have to hope they don't happen at crucial moments.
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In reply to txag72 • 7:41a, 1/7/26
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txag72 said:
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TombstoneTex said:
These lazy passes keep losing us games…

Which one of our 3 losses are you talking about?

Well, if you watched it, we literally threw the ball (and game) away at the end of regulation against SMU.

Just because we won doesn't mean this team doesn't have a consistent problem with bad/lazy passes resulting in turnovers multiple times per game.
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7:43a, 1/7/26
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There are a few things that we still need to clean up (passing and finishing close to the basket). All team have thing to improve. Just encouraging that we are winning games and close ones at that. This team is coming together an these tests are accelerating the process. Do I wish we didn't look like our own worst enemy at the end of games. Absolutely. But we are winning those games and learning a lot.
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8:16a, 1/7/26
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Killing clock was the right move.

We had 100%, 76%, and 78% FT shooters all miss the front end of one and ones the last two minutes.
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In reply to buckyball34 • 9:02a, 1/7/26
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bobinator said:
I only hated it because we've already seen multiple times this year that we're bad at it. Montana, SMU, LSU all had issues when we tried to stall.

I saw Bucky call in a stall play on offense pretty late in the game. I think it just will come down to experience. It's the correct call, just have to execute. You can't purposefully keep creating possession for the opponent when you're up like that. The uptempo style is hard to grasp. Running a stall is hard when you haven't mastered the base offense. I just think it will come with time.

The key to running a stall is that you have to attack on-ball pressure but not shoot the look it creates. If you retreat against on-ball pressure, you invite traps, aggressive reach-ins, and lax officiating. You want your guards to put their feet in the paint and either kick back out or dribble out for a hand-off. No reason a team with 2 primary ball-handlers can't drain 20 seconds before attacking to score. If your guards need a ball screen to attack, so be it. Run it 3 times, and the third time through run it as a pick and roll or pick and pop.
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In reply to IslanderAg04 • 9:24a, 1/7/26
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Wait, rofl. I turned it off as soon as the shot was hit.

I did, too. This is one of the most glorious things to wake up to. LOL
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
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In reply to Your Mom And Them • 9:52a, 1/7/26
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Your Mom And Them said:
We Aggied that one


You mean won? Cool
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In reply to Pichael Thompson • 9:53a, 1/7/26
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Pichael Thompson said:
As Aggie as it gets


Wow


A clutch win on the road? Yeah!
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In reply to bobinator • 11:33a, 1/7/26
bobinator said:
Yeah and like I said I could go either way on that one really it just felt a little too cute in the moment.

Bucky did say in the postgame that he won't foul up 3 under 5 seconds anymore because of the college basketball continuation rules which is interesting so maybe we really did mean to foul when we did.


Going to be interesting to watch refs this season in big games decide to call continuation or not on purposeful fouls 70 ft from the basket.

I cannot imagine they're going to call many.
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